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3 accused of attacking man [and then a law abiding armed citizen saved him]
mlive.com ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/18/2008 5:48:43 AM PST by grundle

Pittsfield Township police arrested three people accused of attacking a man in traffic after he earlier tried to intervene in a dispute.

The victim was outside Falsetta's Market at 2200 Pittsfield Blvd. at about 4 p.m. Wednesday when he saw a man loudly arguing with a woman and trying to push her into a van, said Detective Lt. Steve Heller.

The victim said he asked if everything was OK and told the woman she didn't have to get into the vehicle. He said the man told him to mind his own business, and they left in the van.

The victim went into a nearby store and called police before he left.

While stopped at a red light at Carpenter and Packard roads a few minutes later, the victim said the driver of the van confronted him and began yelling. He said he exited his vehicle and was punched in the face and knocked to the ground, Heller said.

Two women, including the woman he tried to help, got out of the van and began hitting and stomping the victim while he was on the ground, Heller said.

A passing motorist stopped his car, pulled a gun and demanded the trio stop beating the man, Heller said.

Police responded to several calls reporting a man holding people at gunpoint. Officers determined the man with a gun had a legitimate concealed weapons permit and was trying to help, Heller said.

Officers arrested an 18-year-old Ann Arbor man and two 19-year-old women. They were released pending charges.

The victim was not seriously injured.


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To: grundle

Did the 3 assailants have a legitimate beating license?


21 posted on 02/18/2008 11:19:19 AM PST by xrp (RON PAUL! To HELL with neo-cons!)
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To: umgud
He shouldn’t have brandished the gun. The perps could have taken it from him and killed everybody!

Actually, let's think about that for a moment.

The fellow pulled his weapon and held the folks at gunpoint. A good result, because the punks held still. I'm glad he was armed, and that he interevened, and I'm glad he held the nice people for the cops.

Here's the question: how far was the fellow prepared to go, if one or more of the punks refused to cooperate? Would he have been justified in shooting if the punks began to run?

When I think about concealed carry, I think about that sort of thing. Are folks trained and prepared to think through the "what next" aspects of actually drawing their weapons?

I'm all for normal folks being armed. I really hope folks will take the responsibility to get that sort of training. But I suspect that most do not, and that's too bad.

22 posted on 02/18/2008 11:28:36 AM PST by r9etb
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To: grundle

***Police responded to several calls reporting a man holding people at gunpoint.***

Yet somebody getting beat doesn’t warrant a 911 call. Incredible


23 posted on 02/18/2008 11:37:49 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: FreePaul

You don’t do it in public like that. A quiet alley at night is the best, simply because there’s less chance of somebody seeing it.

Some people are just weird and get turned on by staged abductions.


24 posted on 02/18/2008 11:40:33 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Drugs were more than likely involved.


25 posted on 02/18/2008 2:01:43 PM PST by sig226 (If we took the bones out it wouldn't be crunchy.)
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To: scan59

I have learned from certain neighbors years ago that in such a domestic “dispute” the woman thinks it is right that she get beat up or even killed by her husband or boyfriend and any outsider is interfering in a domestic expression of love and should be beaten up for that.


26 posted on 02/18/2008 2:53:17 PM PST by arthurus
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To: r9etb
Very good questions to ask. The minute you move from concealed to not concealed you open up a can of worms especially in a situation like being described.
If someone had a gun or someone fired a gun you at least answer the question of equal force.
At least the cops didn’t create an issue.
27 posted on 02/18/2008 3:21:05 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: grundle

Very interesting.

Two good Samaritans one armed and one not.

If the first had been armed, he would be in serious trouble, as the female he had attempted to help obviously would not have backed up his story.

Fortunately for the armed Samaritan, the unarmed one will back up his story, and he may only incur minor legal costs.

It is a pity, but for your own and your family’s protection, you must be very careful in your choice of strangers to protect.


28 posted on 02/18/2008 4:50:08 PM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: grundle
He said he exited his vehicle and was punched in the face and knocked to the ground, Heller said.

Exiting the vehicle is normally a bad decision.
29 posted on 02/18/2008 6:54:37 PM PST by NonLinear ("They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge." -Thomas B Reed)
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