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It’s tradition, not religion, that wrecks so many lives
Timesonline.co.uk ^ | February 17, 2008 | Margarette Driscoll

Posted on 02/18/2008 12:25:41 PM PST by forkinsocket

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1 posted on 02/18/2008 12:25:43 PM PST by forkinsocket
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These practices predate Islam, etc, but that these practices persist in particular religious settings and die out in others is instructive.


2 posted on 02/18/2008 12:29:07 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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3% ~ the Paks have an entirely different abortion rate than the Brits, so they're likely not killing off all their questionable offspring.

That does make a difference and is simply evidence of the biological self-destruction occuring throughout Europe among the indigenous tribes.

We've seen this before ~ the natives get sick, tired, turn to serious depression, and next thing you know they're just dead.

3 posted on 02/18/2008 12:32:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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Marriage to paternal first cousins preserves the tribe. That’s one reason why Islam is still mostly a tribal religion. Also, it’s one reason why there is so much violence among Muslims, whenever they’re not busy killing Infidels.

If their naming customs were the same as ours, it would mean that they would almost always marry first cousins with the same last names as their own.

The warring tribal Muslims in Pakistan and Afghanistan and parts of Africa are typical examples of this.


4 posted on 02/18/2008 12:45:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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This is where “Cool” can be an ally.

Today in US dating your cousin or marrying her is something that is universally mocked at and those guys who engage in that are considered losers.

However, if you ask the guys who married their cousins in Britain or their Native Country, I would bet they wouldn’t consider it something embarrassing or insulting. May even proudly boast about it.

If there is going to be change in behavior, one way is to legislate, which would be hard to do, and other would be to advertise the fact how embarassing and pathetic this really is. Effort should be made to make Cousin-Marriages a pejorative term - something to be laughed at - and then it would have some effect.


5 posted on 02/18/2008 12:47:41 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: forkinsocket

Well, it will increase the number of retarded people the terrorists can strap bombs to so it’s all good from their perspective.


6 posted on 02/18/2008 12:49:52 PM PST by Greg F (Obamessiah believers are teenage girls, latent homos, or just creepy and sad. Eg. Chris Matthews.)
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To: Greg F

Religion of Peace followers also sweep the Darwin Awards.

;^)


7 posted on 02/18/2008 12:56:09 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: forkinsocket
tradition of first-cousin marriages within the Asian community................All this is controversial within the Asian community. When I spoke on Asian radio recently................

So this is a big problem/controversy among the Japanese & Chinese?

8 posted on 02/18/2008 1:05:05 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: The_Republican

I took this shot in 1982 of a Nepali bride upon meeting her husband in an arranged marriage.

9 posted on 02/18/2008 1:17:33 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (I'm a Maverick Republican: I'll oppose the Party Nominee if I want to, and you have to like it!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Nice Pic. She doesn’t look Nepali.

Are you a Climber?

I want to one day be there for some big peaks bagging.....


10 posted on 02/18/2008 1:19:13 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: forkinsocket

Tradition is the first-born child of religion.


11 posted on 02/18/2008 1:25:54 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: M203M4

U egg me chicken


12 posted on 02/18/2008 1:27:04 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: M203M4

This article is stupid. I haven’t heard of any Christians stoning their kids lately, and it has nothing to do with tradition.

Religions bring about a certain type of society. I have also often marveled how a very small doctrinal difference manifests itself as a huge societal difference.


13 posted on 02/18/2008 1:32:17 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: The_Republican

Agreed 100%. Ridicule is a sharp knife.


14 posted on 02/18/2008 1:34:00 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: The_Republican

Not a climber. Hiked to 17,000 one day up there. Never anything technical.

Lots of imposing peaks there. Wouldn’t want to be on them, personally. I’ll take my risk elsewhere.


15 posted on 02/18/2008 1:48:54 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (I'm a Maverick Republican: I'll oppose the Party Nominee if I want to, and you have to like it!)
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16 posted on 02/18/2008 2:04:33 PM PST by Tex Pete
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To: Cicero

The other defense I’ve read is that by marrying a paternal cousin, her father in law is a paternal uncle - her father’s brother, who she dosn’t have to hide from and is allowed to talk to. Thus the girl is familiar with her new in-laws, who are not strangers to her. It would thus be the only set of future in-laws she could know before an arranged marriage. And given extended clan households, may not even have to move away from her own parents to get married.

Liberals apply family planning, genetic testing, and women’s lib in this kind of environment. I don’t think it can get worse.


17 posted on 02/18/2008 2:30:36 PM PST by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Old Professer
Tradition is the first-born child of religion.
Tradition is what enables you to understand English. If you learn a second language, the teacher will instruct you in English. But the first language is learned by tradition. And spelling and grammar rules are tradition, which allows us to understand each other.

18 posted on 02/18/2008 2:54:43 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: forkinsocket
Hmmmmm!

You bring in a bunch of ignorant foreigners to do the jobs no one else wants to do.

Why is anyone surprised that they bring their ignorant culture with them?

Sound familiar America?

I figure Britain is 5-10 years ahead of the USA in the madness of massive immigration & multiculturalism. It’s like watching a horror flik of your own future.

19 posted on 02/18/2008 4:06:02 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Tex Pete

You got that right!


20 posted on 02/18/2008 11:56:13 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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