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McCain Touts Stance on Israel
The Forward ^ | 02/13/08 | Marc Pearlman

Posted on 02/19/2008 1:24:15 PM PST by gallaxyglue

McCain Touts Stance on Israel News Analysis

By Marc Perelman Wed. Feb 13, 2008 John Mc Cain prides himself on being a straight shooter, a political maverick who speaks his mind even when it riles his own camp or alarms voters.

He supported President Bush’s troop surge in Iraq even though pundits called it political suicide. He once told a questioner that it “would be fine with me” if America kept a military presence there for 100 years.

Asked last year about Iran’s nuclear ambitions, he jokingly sang the words “Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran” to the tune of the Beach Boys hit “Barbara Ann” — this despite the opposition of most Americans to another Middle East war and growing Democratic support for engagement with the mullahs.

On Israel, however, McCain has been uncharacteristically conventional. He offers unqualified support, expressed in years of public statements. He has the endorsement of pro-Israel icon Joseph Lieberman, the independent senator from Connecticut, and of former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, the favorite among Jewish Republicans until he quit the race last month.

Along with using his national security credentials to gain advantage over his putative Democratic opponent, McCain touts his support for Israel as a way to soothe the restive Republican right. Conservatives have attacked the Arizona senator bitterly for his positions on same-sex marriage, taxes, immigration and campaign-financing. Hence the lengths to which McCain has gone to quash any notion that he might ask Israel to make concessions.

Nearly two years ago, a Ha’aretz reporter wrote that he had asked McCain if resolving the Israeli-Palestinian issue would require movement toward the 1967 armistice lines with minor territorial modifications, and McCain had nodded in the affirmative. The senator had added that if elected president, he would ask both sides to make sacrifices and would send “the smartest guy I know” to the Middle East. That person could be the elder George Bush’s national security adviser, Brent Scowcroft, or his secretary of state, James Baker, “though I know that you in Israel don’t like Baker.”

The comments were vintage McCain: a provocative expression of a fairly standard American policy. More surprising was what happened afterward. Coming under fire from some hawkish American Jews, McCain retreated.

A few days after the Ha’aretz article appeared, McCain was blasted in the hawkish Jewish Press of New York. The Orthodox-oriented weekly described his statements as “jarring” because they “reflect the view … championed by the State Department and both the moderate and liberal wings of the Democratic party.”

Soon after, McCain declared that “after reading the article and subsequent report in The Jewish Press,” he felt compelled to “clear up several serious misimpressions.” In the first place, he said, “I’ve never held the position that Israel should return to 1967 lines, and that is not my position today.” In October 2006 he told The New Republic that the Ha’aretz reporter, Amir Oren, had mistaken a nod for an affirmative response, and he questioned Oren’s motives.

Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s chief foreign policy aide, said the senator simply wanted to set the record straight and reaffirm that he would not ask Israel for undue concessions. He said this was not a political ploy, but showed his differences with his Democratic rivals

“Senator McCain has a deeper record on Israel than Senators Clinton and Obama,” said Scheunemann, noting that the Arizonan had met every Israeli prime minister since Menachem Begin and backed Israel during the 2006 Lebanon war. The Democrats, Scheunemann said, “are advocating policies that would endanger Israel’s security, such as a precipitous retreat from Iraq or opening talks with Iran.”

The Ha’aretz reporter said he stood by his reporting, and he voiced surprise that McCain would disavow what was merely a benign expression of standard U.S. policy. “It is not for me to figure out McCain’s real intentions,” Oren told the Forward in an e-mail. “Hopefully, after the campaign is over he will find a way to apologize for his behavior and revert to the policy he said he was for.”

McCain, however, seems to believe he must use Israel as evidence of his conservative bona fides. He needs to unite Republicans behind him at a time when leading figures on the right, such as broadcaster Rush Limbaugh and evangelical Christian leader James Dobson, indicate that they won’t support him. This strategy would help explain the senator’s eagerness to dispel the notion that he might force Jerusalem to make concessions or that he would tap prominent officials from the first Bush administration, a rare period of U.S.-Israeli tension.

A foreign policy realist when he was first elected to Congress in 1982, McCain has drawn closer over the last decade to the neoconservative camp, though he never became part of it.

Scheunemann, a longtime McCain adviser, said the senator “rejects any other label than a ‘consistent conservative’.” And while McCain supports one of the central tenets of neoconservative ideology, namely spreading democracy, he also believes there is “no cookie-cutter solution,” Scheunemann said. Rushing to elections without a strong institutional framework can bring counterproductive results, “as we have seen with the Hamas victory in Gaza” — a dig at the administration’s backing for Palestinian elections.

McCain’s foreign policy advisers are a mix of neoconservatives and traditional realists. Realists include Scowcroft and Henry Kissinger, as well as fellow Navy veterans Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state, and John Lehman, Navy secretary under Ronald Reagan and a member of the 9-11 commission. McCain’s neoconservative advisers include Weekly Standard editor William Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey (advising on energy independence more than war and peace), scholar Robert Kagan and Scheunemann, a former Senate aide and head of a neconservative think tank.

Last weekend, McCain was endorsed by John Bolton, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and a darling of American and Israeli conservatives.

“McCain lays out a very hard line on Iran and Hamas, and he is, of course, tough on Iraq,” said Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who directed Middle Eastern affairs at the National Security Council until 2002. “McCain never explains why going to war in Iraq made sense — only that now that we are there and we must stay indefinitely. In short, his policy looks like Bush’s.”

But while his rhetoric on Iraq, Iran and North Korea can be tougher than Bush’s, McCain makes it clear that, unlike Bush, he would draw on foreign policy expertise acquired during his decades in Congress. And although he is the scion of a military family, spent five years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, supported both Gulf Wars and wants to expand the army, his aides say he is not gung-ho to plunge the country into another war.

“This is a gross mischaracterization put out by his political opponents,” said Scheunemann. “He has made it very clear that the best way to deal with Iran is an effective sanctions regime, and that war is only a last resort.”

Scheunemann said McCain supports Bush’s goal of establishing two states for Israelis and Palestinians, but he is concerned about the lack of a strong Palestinian negotiating partner. McCain believes an “active U.S. engagement is critical to solve the issue,” the aide added.

Wed. Feb 13, 2008


TOPICS: Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; antibushscreed; hamas; hezbollah; iran; iraq; israel; issues; mccain; mccainisrael; middleeast; palestine; proisrael; syria

1 posted on 02/19/2008 1:24:16 PM PST by gallaxyglue
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To: gallaxyglue

Bush redux.

McCain=Bush 3rd term

No thanks


2 posted on 02/19/2008 1:28:09 PM PST by indylindy
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To: indylindy
Ya because Bush has been a 100% failure, done nothing right, it was just like Gore got elected.
5 posted on 02/19/2008 1:32:49 PM PST by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel, WOT

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6 posted on 02/19/2008 1:38:46 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: gallaxyglue

A McCain Presidency is FAR superior to a Clinton or Obama Presidency.


7 posted on 02/19/2008 1:54:19 PM PST by what's up
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To: gallaxyglue
Last weekend, McCain was endorsed by John Bolton

Oh great, now people are going to say John Bolton is a RINO Traitor.

8 posted on 02/19/2008 1:55:53 PM PST by mnehring (El Conservo Tribe Member - "Punches Hippies")
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To: indylindy
Bush redux.

From the article:
“I’ve never held the position that Israel should return to 1967 lines, and that is not my position today.”

This seems to be very different than the two state approach President Bush is taking..

9 posted on 02/19/2008 1:57:19 PM PST by mnehring (El Conservo Tribe Member - "Punches Hippies")
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To: indylindy

Hah! Haven’t written this in a long time:

McCain: BUSH’s FAULT

For the record, I’d take Bush again.


10 posted on 02/19/2008 2:19:02 PM PST by Tulane
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To: what's up
A McCain presidency is FAR superior to a Clinton or Obama presidency.

I would think so and hope so. It's hard to see how it could be worse or as bad as a 'Rat presidency, but then again McCain is full of "surprises" that irk conservatives. But those "surprises" have been pretty much confined to domestic policy up until now.

11 posted on 02/19/2008 2:23:08 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: gallaxyglue
McCain Touts Stance on Israel

Oh really? - Whats your stance on that hundreds of miles long border fence/wall?

12 posted on 02/19/2008 2:25:47 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: gallaxyglue
"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran."

Ironically, McCain took that from Rush Limbaugh's show, changing the word "Iraq" (used in the parody aired at the time of the Gulf War in 1991) to "Iran."

I wonder if Rush will make an issue out of this possible copyright infringement.

13 posted on 02/19/2008 2:28:35 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; juliej; dennisw; montag813; pabianice; SunkenCiv; dervish; Cindy; ...

Ping!


14 posted on 02/19/2008 2:43:58 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I remember hearing “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” in the 1980’s immediately in the wake of the embassy siege. It was on local radio to the tune of “Barbara Ann”.


15 posted on 02/19/2008 2:46:17 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: mnehrling

It sure is, and this change I like a whole lot.


16 posted on 02/19/2008 2:51:13 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: 11th Commandment; TaxCuts
Yep, Gore/Kerry = Bush just like Hillary/Obama = McCain.

And if anyone believes that idiocy (and alas, there are countless on this forum) I have a great plot of land in Gaza for sale.

17 posted on 02/19/2008 2:55:10 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: what's up

Absolutely!


18 posted on 02/19/2008 2:59:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: gallaxyglue

Another reason McCain can beat Obama is Hussein’s radical anti-Israel stance. When Jewish Democrats realize what his foreign policy will be, that very important voting and funding block may move to the Republican side. We’re gonna need a bigger tent, but my attitude is “Shalom, Y’all”.


19 posted on 02/19/2008 3:40:39 PM PST by darth
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To: justiceseeker93

First of all, I’ve had it with every single thread about John McCain becoming a stupid debate about whether to support him or not.

On the matter at hand, McCain has NOTHING on his website about Israel as far as I can tell. Why is he being coy about this? He needs to state his position clearly and forcefully.


20 posted on 02/19/2008 3:58:04 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: justiceseeker93
Saw this already. After the Huckster, Ron Paul may be the best on left for us.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 02/19/2008 4:09:21 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: what's up

BINGO!


22 posted on 02/19/2008 4:21:54 PM PST by FreeAndRight
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To: indylindy

No thanks, Mr. McKennedy, McLiebermann, McFeingold, whatever else POS legislation you’be been tied with Democrats to. My voting is not predicated on a nominee’s stance on Israel.


23 posted on 02/19/2008 4:24:54 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: gallaxyglue; justiceseeker93
He has the endorsement of pro-Israel icon Joseph Lieberman, the independent senator from Connecticut

How in the sam hill did Lieberman become a "pro-Israel icon?" Is it because he's Jewish?

Lieberman has stood by and not uttered a word as Joseph's Tomb has been desecrated twice and Olmert has all but agreed to carve up Jerusalem!

Joe Lieberman is a "pro-Israel icon" because he gives Orthodox Jewish Democrats an excuse to remain liberals and not switch parties!

24 posted on 02/19/2008 4:41:00 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem, HaShem, Qel Rachum veChanun; 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
And if anyone believes that idiocy ... I have agreat plot of land in Gaza for sale.

Get Israel back in control of Gaza, and I might take you up on your offer.

25 posted on 02/19/2008 7:50:25 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Cinnamon Girl

McCain did speak to the Republican Jewish Coalition candidates’ forum in Washington back in September(?) of last year. I’m sure he said something about Israel then, because it comes with the territory.

His foreign policy guru, Randy Scheunemann (mentioned in the article), spoke to the RJC in New York at a surrogate debate there last November vs. Giuliani and Romney representatives.

Perhaps the RJC has transcripts of these events that can be ordered. The RJC web site is rjchq.org .


26 posted on 02/19/2008 8:00:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You’re on right track. Lieberman is a “pro-Israel icon” because the author of the story is a Jewish Dummycrat (don’t know if he’s orthodox) and Lieberman is probably his favorite person in Washington. Apparently, the bulk of the Jewish ‘Rats still haven’t noticed how their party treated Lieberman in ‘06.


27 posted on 02/19/2008 8:05:46 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
You’re on right track. Lieberman is a “pro-Israel icon” because the author of the story is a Jewish Dummycrat (don’t know if he’s orthodox) and Lieberman is probably his favorite person in Washington. Apparently, the bulk of the Jewish ‘Rats still haven’t noticed how their party treated Lieberman in ‘06.

That may be so, but my point was that Lieberman isn't really that visibly pro-Israel. In fact, I'd say that Pat Robertson is much more pro-Israel than he.

28 posted on 02/19/2008 8:10:17 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem, HaShem, Qel Rachum veChanun; 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!)
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To: gallaxyglue
1. McCain is a mealy mouthed globalist
2. I am a a hard core Zionist, but Israel is not the determining factor in my vote. McCain's betrayal of America is.
29 posted on 02/19/2008 8:17:25 PM PST by rmlew (Grievance politics is a mental illness)
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To: gallaxyglue; Ezekiel
The senator had added that if elected president, he would ask both sides to make sacrifices and would send “the smartest guy I know” to the Middle East. That person could be the elder George Bush’s national security adviser, Brent Scowcroft, or his secretary of state, James Baker, “though I know that you in Israel don’t like Baker.”

I don't trust McCain at all. And if that isn't the big giveaway, I don't know what is.

30 posted on 02/19/2008 8:57:48 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe; Yehuda; Jeremiah Jr
>>>The senator had added that if elected president, he would ask both sides to make sacrifices and would send “the smartest guy I know” to the Middle East. That person could be the elder George Bush’s national security adviser, Brent Scowcroft, or his secretary of state, James Baker, “though I know that you in Israel don’t like Baker.” <<<

I don't trust McCain at all. And if that isn't the big giveaway, I don't know what is.

That deserves a repeat!

31 posted on 02/19/2008 9:27:37 PM PST by Ezekiel
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Bomb Iran (Vince Vance and the Valiants, 1979)

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, BOMB IRAN!
Let’s take a stand, bomb Iran.
Our country’s got a feelin’
Really hit the ceilin’, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Went to a mosque, gonna throw some rocks.
Tell the Ayatollah...”Gonna put you in a box!”
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country’s got a feelin’
Really hit the ceilin’, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Ol’ Uncle Sam’s gettin’ pretty hot.
Time to turn Iran into a parking lot. Bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Call the volunteers; call the bombadiers;
Call the financiers, better get their ass in gear.
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country’s got a feelin’
Really hit the ceilin’, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Call on our allies to cut off their supplies,
Get our hands untied, and bring em’ back alive. Bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country’s got a feelin’
Really hit the ceilin’, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, BOMB IRAN!
Let’s take a stand, bomb Iran.
Our people you been stealin’
Now it’s time for keelin’, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.


32 posted on 02/19/2008 11:27:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ..

Thanks justiceseeker93.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1972950/posts?page=32#32


33 posted on 02/19/2008 11:52:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: mnehrling

‘Last weekend, McCain was endorsed by John Bolton

Oh great, now people are going to say John Bolton is a RINO Traitor.”

Of course he is. All true blue right thinking Americans knows this. Anyone who supports John McCain is an open borders/one worlder/tree huggers.....who beats his dog.


34 posted on 02/20/2008 8:09:57 AM PST by Valin
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the info. My apologies for the earlier post. I would agree that the “Bomb Iraq” song of 1991 was probably inspired by the earlier “Bomb Iran” song of 1979. I had never heard of Vince Vance and the Valiants before, so I congratulate them on their work.

But if you were to do “Bomb Iran” today, you would undoubtedly have to change the lyrics to account for Ahmadinejad and their nuclear weapons development.


35 posted on 02/20/2008 9:17:55 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

:’) None necessary. Y’know, I’m not sure, but I think Vince Vance and the Valiants are also responsible for “Bomb Iraq”...


36 posted on 02/20/2008 11:06:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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