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Ex-President, Husband, Superdelegate
AP via SFGate ^ | 2/20/8 | VALERIE BAUMAN, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/20/2008 11:57:00 AM PST by SmithL

Albany, N.Y. (AP) -- The Democratic nomination for president could come down to a vote-by-vote struggle for superdelegates, and while Hillary Rodham Clinton has lost her delegate advantage over Barack Obama, she knows she can bank on one superdelegate no matter what.

Bill Clinton is guaranteed a spot as a superdelegate: Safe to say his wife gets his vote. With the two candidates separated by 85 delegates, every vote counts.

So, is it an unfair edge to be married to a super-duper-delegate, a former two-term president, the last Democrat to hold the office and a leader who's still wildly popular within the party?

Critics have said the unpledged superdelegate system can overturn the wishes of voters and grass-roots political movements. Those nearly 800 lawmakers, governors and party officials who wear the tag "superdelegate" could tip the nomination to one candidate even if the other gets more votes in primaries and caucuses.

Unlike pledged delegates won through a primary or a caucus, superdelegates can vote for whomever they choose, and they are not beholden to vote for the candidate they endorse.

"I don't think it's going to come down to the president's vote, but as he has said many times, he would be supporting her even if they weren't married," Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna said in a written statement.

A spokesman for Obama declined comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; piaps; superdelegate
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1 posted on 02/20/2008 11:57:01 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Super delegate, stuper delagate. Bill Clinton has ONE VOTE. It means no more than any other.


2 posted on 02/20/2008 11:58:35 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: SmithL

“I don’t think it’s going to come down to the president’s vote, but as he has said many times, he would be supporting her even if they weren’t married,” Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna said in a written statement.”

She may test that statement...


3 posted on 02/20/2008 11:59:22 AM PST by GOPRaleigh ("John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism and youth.” -Ann Coulter)
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To: SmithL
who's still wildly popular within the party?

This too is passing.

4 posted on 02/20/2008 11:59:59 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: LetsRok

1 down. 794 to go.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 12:00:04 PM PST by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your money)
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To: SmithL

Yeah, it’s not like Bill would ever do anything to violate the sacred trust bewteen a husband and wife.


6 posted on 02/20/2008 12:01:45 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: LetsRok

Xlinton’s “one” vote equals 14,000 regular citizens.
Add in the stolen FBI files (OK with Pres. Bush) and
their misuse of the IRS (OK with Pres. Bush), his “one”
vote may equal millions of regular citizens.


7 posted on 02/20/2008 12:02:55 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SmithL

Sounds like the Democrats don’t trust democracy. Who woulda thunk it?


8 posted on 02/20/2008 12:03:10 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: SmithL

Clintons represent the past, Obama represents the future. Superdelegates are ELECTED too! Watch them align with the candidate that can best help them the next time it is THEIR name on the ballot.


9 posted on 02/20/2008 12:03:11 PM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: LetsRok
"Bill Clinton has ONE VOTE. It means no more than any other."

You really don't understand democrat politics, do you? Some votes are more equal than others.

10 posted on 02/20/2008 12:04:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SmithL

What size tires do the wheels on the Clinton Goalposts take?


11 posted on 02/20/2008 12:05:08 PM PST by relictele (Liberal: one who walks away from a TSA line still convinced government can solve problems.)
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To: farmer18th
"Sounds like the Democrats don’t trust democracy. Who woulda thunk it?"

Unfortunately, not too many Republicans trust republicanism.

12 posted on 02/20/2008 12:05:49 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SmithL
OK.

If Hillary loses the popular primary elections but wins the nomination due to the superdelegates -- what does that mean for all those liberals still crying about President Bush's win in 2000 in spite of Gore winning the popular vote?

Man, those guys are gonna be SO conflicted about the Federal Electorial College... right? right?

13 posted on 02/20/2008 12:06:41 PM PST by John123
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To: LetsRok
Check this out

It look like she's her own deligate

14 posted on 02/20/2008 12:09:23 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: LetsRok

Did these superdelegates vote in their respective primary? I am sure they did, and it would be incumbant upon them to support the winner of the convention delegate count, even if it is not the candidate they voted for in the primay. That being said, it obviously won’t happen that way as some have already said. It is going to be a blast watching this play out.


15 posted on 02/20/2008 12:10:19 PM PST by Bruinator (It's the Media.............Stupid)
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To: SmithL
So, is it an unfair edge to be married to a super-duper-delegate, a former two-term president, the last Democrat to hold the office and a leader who's still wildly popular within the party?

Unfair as compared, say, to copies of 900+ FBI files, or to lists of Superdelegates that owe the Clintons and have dirt not appearing in FBI files? Nah.

Let's just remember who had the biggest hand in choosing Superdelegates, who damned near OWNED the Dem Party until a few months ago. Unless Obama really destroys her in the TX and Ohio races, Hillary at the convention still has a good shot. Oh, and don't forget the FL and Michigan delegates - they aren't to be seated - but there's been no court case YET about those disenfranchised voters.

16 posted on 02/20/2008 12:10:29 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: Kaslin
"Check this out. It look like she's her own deligate"

I found that web site a few days ago and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that she was a superdelagate also. There are a whole lot of them on the list that are the Clinton cronies.

17 posted on 02/20/2008 12:14:00 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: bigbob
Clintons represent the past, Obama represents the future.

As a takeoff on that, let me restate it as "Clintons MISrepresent the past, Obama MISrepresents the future."

18 posted on 02/20/2008 12:21:32 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: SmithL

>> superdelegates can vote for whomever they choose

Secret ballot, or open ballot?

I think whether or not they are accountable for their vote will a difference in how the superdelegates vote.


19 posted on 02/20/2008 12:37:00 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: SmithL
I want to see a movie-like scenario where it all comes down to Bubba’s vote. All eyes are on him and he says “Four years playing second banana to you when I could be out making speeches and scoring babes? I don’t think so. Obama”.
20 posted on 02/20/2008 12:40:14 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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