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The West’s Fatal Mistake: We Are All Serbs Now
Brussels Journal ^ | February 18, 2008 | Thomas Landon

Posted on 02/20/2008 2:45:49 PM PST by Bokababe

Today, one day after Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence, the United States and the major European countries rushed to recognize Kosovo’s independence. George Bush hailed Kosovo’s “bold and historic bid for statehood.” Five years ago, Mr Bush invaded Iraq and began “operation Iraqi freedom.” He toppled Saddam Hussein in order to get rid of a rogue regime, one of the members of the “axis of evil.” Five years later, Mr Bush is saddling Europe with a new rogue state.

Surely, Mr Bush knows that al-Qa’eda fighters were involved in driving the Serbs from Kosovo in the late 1990s. The Jerusalem Post reported in 1998 that the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) was “provided with financial and military support from Islamic countries,” and had been “bolstered by hundreds of Iranian fighters or mujahedin [some of whom] were trained in Osama bin Laden’s terrorist camps in Afghanistan.” There is more proof of involvement of the KLA of the (then and current) Kosovar leader Hashim Thaçi, nicknamed ‘the Snake,’ with al-Qa’eda than there was of the Iraqi Ba’ath regime of the late Saddam Hussein.

(Excerpt) Read more at brusselsjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedabalkans; europe; islam; kosovo; serbia; thewest; wot

1 posted on 02/20/2008 2:45:51 PM PST by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 02/20/2008 2:46:59 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.or)
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To: Bokababe
Five years later, Mr Bush is saddling Europe with a new rogue state.

Unfortunately, this is true. Kosovo is going to be Europe's Iraq; a place for jihadist terrorists and murderers to operate from.
3 posted on 02/20/2008 2:50:20 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: kronos77
The rushed decision to recognize Kosovo was a huge blunder. I’d expect if from the emasculated Old European nations, but the Bush Administration really should have known better.
4 posted on 02/20/2008 2:52:56 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Do you think this is Bush’s payback to Europe for it’s hatefest the past several years? We’re busy out there taking care of real terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan while the know nothings in Europe give us hell for doing what also benefits them. Could be that revenge is a dish best served cold.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 2:56:03 PM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It seems that the State Department is calling the shots rather than the president and THAT really sucks.


6 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:01 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Bokababe

As much as I like LittleGreenFootballs, Charles seems to have a mad-on about Brussels Journal, so I’m not sure what he’d say about this. But I think we just made a big mistake here with Kosovo.


7 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:17 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: Clintonfatigued
"The rushed decision to recognize Kosovo was a huge blunder. I’d expect if from the emasculated Old European nations, but the Bush Administration really should have known better."

I think that my next screen name is going to "Bushfatigued"!

8 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:26 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.or)
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To: Bokababe

Facilitating the emergence of a new muslim state in Europe is just stupid. Militarily intervening in a civil war with the object of depriving a nation of its own sovereign territory was beyond outrageous. I couldn’t believe Bush, Jr. and many Republicans jumped on the bandwagon supporting Clinton’s involvement in that travesty. I really can’t believe the West can be so ignorant as to cede the the right side of this black and white affair to Russia and China.


9 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:48 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: JamesP81
Close.

Kosovo is going to be Europe's Atzlan.

I expect there will be a loud “separation” movement in the southwest US any time now.

10 posted on 02/20/2008 2:59:17 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Bokababe

We in the “right” would also be opposed to an American war against Serbia and Russia: It would be very interesting as we could see (depending on how Israel) comes out in this scenario neo-cons and paleo-cons and all other conservatives against islamic radicalism allied with the ‘peace-movement’.


11 posted on 02/20/2008 3:01:54 PM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: fire and forget

This isn’t ignorance. It’s about oil & money. Muslim countries have oil & money for campaign contributions to US politicians. Kosovo Albanians have money from sex slavery and selling Europe its drugs for campaign contributions. The rest of us with no oil, who plow the straight and narrow with real jobs just can’t compete and fill their campaign troughs the way that oil and drugs can.

In case you haven’t noticed, Muslims are using our addictions against us


12 posted on 02/20/2008 3:05:11 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.or)
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To: redgolum

Hopefully soon I say. Never good to let a festering boil...you know...boil.


13 posted on 02/20/2008 3:10:26 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Bokababe

http://hannah.smith-family.com/archive/000959.html

Read this. This is what it is all about.


14 posted on 02/20/2008 3:11:35 PM PST by oilfieldtrash
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To: Bokababe
I think the author greatly overestimates Bush’s knowledge of the situation. It was clear Bush was clueless when he just blurted out his support, totally unaware that the State Dept hadn’t even recognized the terrorist state.
15 posted on 02/20/2008 3:13:22 PM PST by isrul
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To: saganite
Do you think this is Bush’s payback to Europe for it’s hatefest the past several years?

"Independence" of Kosovo could not happen without eager support of large European countries like Germany, France, Italy. It is not a "US only" affair.

16 posted on 02/20/2008 3:15:25 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Bokababe

I only know the issue well enough to realize the Serbs are good people and see the magnitude of the injustice. Undoubtedly there is a healthy mix of corruption involved.


17 posted on 02/20/2008 3:18:57 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: Bokababe
As I posted elsewhere;

And thus it begins. The cat is out of the bag. In twenty years Aztlan, in thirty Canada Nueva.

18 posted on 02/20/2008 3:22:52 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Bokababe

here is why


19 posted on 02/20/2008 3:25:01 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Bokababe
"George Bush hailed Kosovo’s “bold and historic bid for statehood.”

Another US supported and recognized stronghold for al-Qa’eda is established.

Will Detroit and Hamtramck be next?

.

20 posted on 02/20/2008 3:29:07 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Bokababe

Abraham Lincoln was fond of asking the rhetorical question:

“If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?

Five?

No, calling a tail a leg don’t make it a leg.”


21 posted on 02/20/2008 3:32:43 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Bokababe
I think this sets a really good precedent.

I will be looking forward to saluting Villaragosa when he becomes El Presedente of Razafornia.

22 posted on 02/20/2008 3:34:07 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Bokababe

I don’t quite get the title. I assume it is a play off of Nixon’s “we are all Keynesians now,” but shouldn’t it be
“we are all Kosovars now?”
(Bush feels powerless to reverse the policy put into action by Clinton...the claim seems ridiculous although I’ll admit I don’t know who all has lobbied for Kosovar recognition.)


23 posted on 02/20/2008 3:38:26 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack
"we are all Kosovars now?"

No, not at all. The article makes the point that eith "Kosovo Independence" all of us non-Muslims are in the same shape that the Serbs are -- frustrated with our own governments inability to deal with drug-dealing, sex-slaving Islamists on our doorstep and unable to do anything about it without being slapped down and called bigots.

24 posted on 02/20/2008 3:52:08 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.or)
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To: Bokababe

And another one from the same source

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2997


25 posted on 02/20/2008 4:15:11 PM PST by Dragonfly
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To: Bokababe; JamesP81; redgolum; FormerLib

More accurately, “independent Kosovo” will be another pre-9/12/2001 Afghanistan—a failed state that allows terrorists free rein. And this will not just affect Europe, but America as well. Of course, Kosovo is also a precedent for other minority takeover movements, such as “Aztlan”.

Another factor in why Bush and company (as well as the Democrats) want “independent Kosovo” is Camp Bondsteel.

I hope that Serbia and Russia, by the help of God, can find a way to end this nightmare, or that “independent Kosovo” might just implode on its own. Pray for the Serbian people of Kosovo. Lord have mercy!


26 posted on 02/20/2008 4:15:30 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Bokababe

The reconquistas will use Kosovo as “exhibit A” when they push for the independence of “Aztlan.”


27 posted on 02/20/2008 4:33:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
The reconquistas will use Kosovo as “exhibit A” when they push for the independence of “Aztlan.”

Wouldn't you, we are the great satan after all.

Palestinians should follow Kosovo example: negotiator

and their students, for decades.


28 posted on 02/20/2008 4:38:56 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: Bokababe; All

I keep hearing the “reasoning” used for recognition that Kosovo is “unique” and that’s why it should be independent. But there is never any explation as to how Kosovo is unique.

Can someone please explain to me in what way is Kosovo so unique? The way I see it, and I have followed the situation in the Balkans for many years, there is not an ounce of uniqueness in Kosovo. Someone??


29 posted on 02/20/2008 4:48:56 PM PST by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder! Kosovo is Serbia!)
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To: Honorary Serb
Another factor in why Bush and company (as well as the Democrats) want “independent Kosovo” is Camp Bondsteel.

What is that?

30 posted on 02/20/2008 5:01:16 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum; Bokababe; Kolokotronis; lightman

Camp Bondsteel is that HUMUNGOUS US military base in Kosovo. Besides its strategic location, thw word is that Bondsteel is used similarly to Gunatanamo to warehouse prisoners awaiting a dubious trial date.

If that is in fact true, I hope that at least the prisoners are muslim terror suspects, NOT Orthodox Christian (i.e., Serbian, Macedonian) “war crimes suspects” (anti-jihad warriors, really).

As far as I am concerned, Bondsteel should be given to the Serbs, alng with the rest of Kosovo. If the Serbs want to use it as a military base, that is fine with me. if they want to develop it as housing and industry for Kosovo Serbs, or to tear tbe whole thing down and build the world’s largest Orthodox church, that’s fine with me, too.

By the way, some GIs who have been stationed at Bondsteel, but get to go out and mix with the population, have reported after their discharge that the Kosovo Albanians whom they have dealt with are violent, primitive savages—not the “cute” seekers of freedom and democracy portrayed by the globalist media. So at least some of our troops on the ground know the real truth, unlike the dhimmified Blue State population around here or in some of our political and religious organizations (such as the ELCA).


31 posted on 02/20/2008 5:24:24 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Who knows what Bush is thinking these days.


32 posted on 02/20/2008 5:25:23 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Bokababe

Note my tagline.


33 posted on 02/20/2008 5:25:56 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Jane_N; Bokababe; eleni121; FormerLib

Well, Jane, judging from the totally Dhimmwit “human rightser” editorials in our loal metropolitan daily, Kosovo is “unique” because the “Kosovars” have been “victims of gross atrocities” and “ethnic cleansing”. Therefore, Serbia alledgedly has no right to continue to rule Kosovo, and it should be indepdendent. But that allegedly does not apply to other cases, where there have been no “gross atrocities” against a “majority population”.

Of course, as we all know, that is just a CROCK!!!! muslims in particular, and some others, are very good at crying “Victim” when it is mainly they who are at fault, and getting away with it. This could apply just as well to Chechnya and “Palestine” as to Kosovo. The worldwide Umma knows it, even if the dumb-dumb dupes of the Dhimmwit editorialists do not.


34 posted on 02/20/2008 5:34:39 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

Azatlan is next..well why not?

Americans are terrorizing Mexicans, and they are the majority in many places...so why not form their own republic..of course they would respect the rights of Anglos...!!!!


35 posted on 02/20/2008 5:44:37 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Bokababe

Most distressing.


36 posted on 02/20/2008 6:43:57 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Bokababe

BUMP to that post.


37 posted on 02/20/2008 7:22:50 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Bokababe
Five years later, Mr Bush is saddling Europe with a new rogue state.

ouch!!!.......truth hurts

38 posted on 02/20/2008 7:35:41 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (MFive years later, Mr Bush is saddling Europe with a new rogue state. adeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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To: Bokababe
I read something recently about people willing to volunteer for Serbia’s military who were not native to the country. Know anything about that?
39 posted on 02/20/2008 7:59:24 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Honorary Serb
unlike the dhimmified Blue State population around here or in some of our political and religious organizations (such as the ELCA).

You definitely don't want to look at the latest issue of The Lutheran without having downed at least a couple of shots--unless you want your blood pressure to spike 50 points.

Basically a call for open borders, dismantling of nations, and equating Jesus with a political radical.

The Sixties live again.

Damn.

40 posted on 02/20/2008 8:04:40 PM PST by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon.)
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To: Jane_N

It’s unique because it’s the only place where all the Western elites got snookered by Muslim propaganda into believing in non-existent genocides.

It’s unique because it’s the only place where Orthodox Christian land, rather than Jewish or Western Christian or secularist land, can be stolen to feed the jihadi crocodile in of being eaten last. (Sure there’s Chechenya, but Russia can’t be bullied like Serbia can.)

It’s unique because the non-Muslim populace fought tooth and nail against Islamization, knowing from centuries of experience what it would be like, only to be stabbed in the back by the West, which has to keep pretending to itself that it was fighting in a righteous cause because without God’s help repentence for such a betrayal is humanly impossible, and the secularized West is bereft of grace.

Anything else I can help sort out for you?


41 posted on 02/20/2008 9:41:49 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: bayouranger

Yup. During the wars of the Yugoslav dissolution, the Serbs had volunteers from most of the Orthodox Christian countries nearby fighting in their army: Greeks, Romanian, Bulgarians, Russians.

The army under St. Lazar that sacrificed itself on the Field of Kosovo to stop the Muslim advance into Europe was led by the Serbian Tsar, but included Greeks, Bulgars, and Romanians as well. Kosovo is sacred not just to the Serbs, but to all Orthodox Christians.


42 posted on 02/20/2008 9:45:19 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Honorary Serb

Will not be suprising if Russia ends up helping Serbia military wise take Kosovo back bigtime, resulting in another Balkens war.


43 posted on 02/21/2008 7:19:20 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: lightman; redgolum; aberaussie; Kolokotronis; FormerLib; The_Reader_David; Bokababe

I have not received my issue of “The Lutheran” yet—it’s always late coming here. I blew off reading most of the last issue—I might do the same with this one. Or I might read it after Meatfare Sunday lunch (with some slivo and wine) at our Serbian congregation. That’s the Last Judgment Sunday, too—quite appropriate for dealing with this globalist poison.

Anyone who has heard the Holy Week Gospel, year in and year out, knowns that the political radical in that story was Barabbas, not Jesus. If the ELCA leaders think they can fool the faithful on this, they must be counting on a great deal of Biblical and liturgical illiteracy, or just plain Dummheit!

And this is not really a replay of the 1960s, since globalism was not possible before the end of the Cold War and the rise of the Internet. The ELCA mis-leaders must want a rebirth of clintonism, or hope that Obama will make for something even worse.

Please say a prayer for the suffering Christian people of Kosovo and Metohija at your liturgy this Sunday, and on subsequent Sundays. Kosovo is Serbia!!!!


44 posted on 02/21/2008 7:29:32 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: The_Reader_David

Did not Knez Lazar’s army include Albanians as well?

islam has REALLY caused most of the Albanian nation to degenerate into savagery since then!!!!


45 posted on 02/21/2008 7:32:05 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

Almost certainly. The Albanians were Christian then, though I think divided between Orthodox and Latin, even as the remaining Albanian Christians are today.


46 posted on 02/21/2008 10:17:06 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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