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Van driver does not have license (MN school bus crash)
KSTP.com ^ | 2/20/08 | Nicole Muehlhausen

Posted on 02/20/2008 6:36:18 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has uncovered information on the driver of the van that hit the school bus.

5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has learned through state license records and state staff that the driver of the van does not have a valid driver's license.

Alianiss Morales, of Motevideo, was convicted of driving without a license two years ago, according to police and Chippewa County Court administration staff.

Morales was pulled over, according to the clerk of court's office, after a report of an an erratic driver. The officer found she was driving in Motevideo without a license.

The Minnesota State Patrol will be working with the National Transportation Safety Board to try and determine a cause for the crash. Investigators have been at the scene Wednesday and they plan to inspect all the vehicles involved and conduct interviews with students who were on the bus.

Morales, 23, remains at the hospital.

Two brothers and the daughter of a teacher were among four children killed in Minnesota's worst school bus crash in at least two decades.

The fourth victim was the son of a former teacher at Lakeview School, the small southwestern Minnesota school wracked by the crash.

(Excerpt) Read more at kstp.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: alianissmorales; amnesty; buscrash; crimaliens; illegalimmigrant; illegalimmigration; illegals; mccainsbuddies; olgamarinafranco; publikskoolz; schoolbus; vampirebill
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Build the fence.
1 posted on 02/20/2008 6:36:20 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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Background thread....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973135/posts


2 posted on 02/20/2008 6:37:51 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I know the probable answer, but do we know for sure that she’s illegal?


3 posted on 02/20/2008 6:40:24 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Not yet.....


4 posted on 02/20/2008 6:41:16 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I found another article that said she worked at the Jenny-O turkey processing plant, which makes it almost certain.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 6:44:33 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
has learned through state license records and state staff that the driver of the van (Alianiss Morales) does not have a valid driver's license.

With that name, and no drivers license, chances are real good this is just another individual in the country illegally.

If she is, there will be a lot of questions in regards to this event.

6 posted on 02/20/2008 6:47:31 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Exactly!!


7 posted on 02/20/2008 6:47:58 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Moonman62

I probably shouldn’t have made the fence crack, but I am alarmed at the steady rise of fatal accidents in this country involving undocumented drivers........


8 posted on 02/20/2008 6:51:32 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Morales eh?...well I am shocked.


9 posted on 02/20/2008 6:51:58 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
They had better charge this individual with the absolute maximum.

How can you not see a school bus in broad daylight?

10 posted on 02/20/2008 6:53:47 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: processing please hold; Borax Queen; Czar; potlatch; PhilDragoo
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has learned through state license records and state staff that the driver of the van does not have a valid driver's license. Alianiss Morales, of Motevideo, was convicted of driving without a license two years ago, according to police

How many more deaths must Americans endure for these people illegally here who are "just doing the murders that Americans don't want to do"?

11 posted on 02/20/2008 6:54:21 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: wideawake

James Hancock said there wasn’t enough time to slam on his brakes or think about what was unfolding in front of him Tuesday as he became entangled in a three-vehicle crash that killed four children.

“I saw the maroon van run a stop sign, it blew over the railroad tracks and hit the bus, sending it sliding into me,” Hancock, 47, said from his hospital bed in Sioux Falls, S.D. “The next thing I knew, they were hauling kids out and it was chaos.”

http://www.startribune.com/local/15823132.html


12 posted on 02/20/2008 6:56:58 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The bus driver was licensed. The driver of the van that plowed into the bus was not.


14 posted on 02/20/2008 7:07:48 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Thanks, I realized that after I posted, so I had my comment deleted. I guess he’s just killing children that Americans refuse to kill.


15 posted on 02/20/2008 7:10:37 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

There was a story about a judge a couple of days ago that said this was no big deal.


16 posted on 02/20/2008 7:11:15 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Thanks. Living in NJ, it always amazes me how in other parts of the country emergency car accident cases routinely wind up in hospitals a hundred miles or more from the accident.

They interviewed Hancock from his bed in Sioux Falls.

The families are lucky they have such useful and credible surviving witnesses as Hancock and the busdriver.

17 posted on 02/20/2008 7:15:02 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Moonman62
I found another article that said she worked at the Jenny-O turkey processing plant, which makes it almost certain.

I hope someone sues them out of business.

18 posted on 02/20/2008 7:15:03 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I probably shouldn’t have made the fence crack, but I am alarmed at the steady rise of fatal accidents in this country involving undocumented drivers........

I'm sure one of the illegal enablers will be here shortly to accuse you of hate speech.

19 posted on 02/20/2008 7:16:38 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Paleo Conservative
She.

I'll point out that in my neck of the woods drunks who were born in this country are frequently arrested for driving without a license.

Including a clown two years ago who was clocked at 90 on a residential street a few blocks from my house.

I wonder what her toxicity results will be.

20 posted on 02/20/2008 7:17:49 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: org.whodat

Skin like a rhino, dude....

;-)


21 posted on 02/20/2008 7:18:27 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: org.whodat; Dane
I'm sure one of the illegal enablers will be here shortly to accuse you of hate speech.

No doubt, Dane will be here shortly accusing posters of "bashing" those with "hispanic" surnames.

No, Dane. We bash ILLEGALS.

22 posted on 02/20/2008 7:21:59 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: wideawake

“They had better charge this individual with the absolute maximum.....”

shoot. they better charge the Feds with a civil rights violation of the families for consequences of failure to enforce existing border law/ICE regs....


23 posted on 02/20/2008 7:26:04 PM PST by mo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

UNDOCUMENTED? Ain’t no such stinkin’ animal.

Here’s the breakdown.

There are only THREE kinds of people in the U.S.—legally-speaking:

1) U.S. citizens
2) Legal aliens (with proper green card, visa, passports, etc.)
3) Illegal aliens (border jumpers and visa overstayers)


24 posted on 02/20/2008 7:28:26 PM PST by levotb
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Sympathy to the bereaved families. Wasn’t a 14 year old boy killed while walking with a friend by another illegal in MN just a couple of days ago? When will MN wake up and pass some meaningful laws preventing illegal aliens from killing their children?


25 posted on 02/20/2008 7:29:14 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: levotb

Lacking real, hard evidence, I was just playing nice...

For now.


26 posted on 02/20/2008 7:30:43 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: buccaneer81

What little stink weed had post 13 pulled, what did it say anyway??


27 posted on 02/20/2008 7:31:14 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: mo
they better charge the Feds with a civil rights violation of the families for consequences of failure to enforce existing border law/ICE regs....

On what possible grounds? There isn't a pretense of an actionable case there.

28 posted on 02/20/2008 7:37:18 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: org.whodat
What little stink weed had post 13 pulled, what did it say anyway??

It was already gone when I joined the thread, so I can't say. One can only imagine.

29 posted on 02/20/2008 7:37:44 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: wideawake
Living in NJ, it always amazes me how in other parts of the country emergency car accident cases routinely wind up in hospitals a hundred miles or more from the accident

Have you ever driven across West Texas? Out there you can drive 25 miles for a loaf of bread--and I kid you not!

30 posted on 02/20/2008 7:37:45 PM PST by lonestar
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Don’t blame just Jorge Bush. Blame our parliament of whores in DC


31 posted on 02/20/2008 7:40:01 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<<<||||>>>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: kittymyrib
When will MN wake up and pass some meaningful laws preventing illegal aliens from killing their children?

Now you've stepped in it, that is really not a very PC statement you know!!:^)

32 posted on 02/20/2008 7:41:38 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973734/posts?page=15#15


33 posted on 02/20/2008 7:42:00 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Build the fence.

...but first Get a Rope!

34 posted on 02/20/2008 7:44:16 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (HRC: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: The Sons of Liberty

This tragedy may prompt those who are guilty of not building the fence to retire and let someone who will enforce the law to serve in their place.


35 posted on 02/20/2008 8:00:32 PM PST by southland (Fred Thompson/ John Bolton /08)
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To: wideawake

For starters...and I’m not even an attorney..

http://www.littler.com/presspublications/index.cfm?event=pubItem&pubItemID=17954&childViewID=253&type=all&section=Press%20&%20Publications&subject=ASAPs&title=Minnesota%20Government%20Contractors%20Now%20Required%20To%20Use%20E-Verify%20Program


36 posted on 02/20/2008 8:05:54 PM PST by mo
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Build the fence, sure. But the public needs to rise up and punish the pandering local politicians who turn their states/cities/counties into “sanctuary” communities for illegals. If this woman was illegal, she should have been locked up and held for immediate deportation proceedings after her first traffic violation. Our politicians are letting our children die. The bastards!
37 posted on 02/20/2008 8:09:27 PM PST by Godwin1 (merican restaurant.)
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To: wideawake

People stay clear of older maroon colored minivans here in California, odds at play always.


38 posted on 02/20/2008 8:17:11 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If you walken into the nearest DMV in california you wouldnt be so shocked, you would understand whats coming, its a freight train.


39 posted on 02/20/2008 8:18:44 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“Van driver does not have license (MN school bus crash)”

Only because mean, racist bigots such as myself helped defeat
McCAIN’s AMNESTy bill.
TWICE.

I feel so ashamed!
(/SARC!!!!!!!!!!!!)


40 posted on 02/20/2008 8:21:09 PM PST by VOA
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To: org.whodat

The liberals in Mn. blamed the bridge collapse on not enough tax increases. So we can blame them for blocking laws that could prevent this.


41 posted on 02/20/2008 8:25:56 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: kittymyrib
I think the other case you are thinking of happened in Michigan.
42 posted on 02/21/2008 2:04:34 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: kittymyrib
I think the other case you are thinking of happened in Michigan.
43 posted on 02/21/2008 2:04:44 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: org.whodat

This certainly sounds like illegals to me too. But nothing is going to happen because we all are altruists.


44 posted on 02/21/2008 2:40:31 AM PST by dougfromeagan
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

No wonder this story isn’t getting any airplay.


45 posted on 02/21/2008 4:34:33 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

From your link, the driver has a job at a Jenny O plant in Montevideo.


46 posted on 02/21/2008 4:40:42 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: org.whodat; Moonman62
I found another article that said she worked at the Jenny-O turkey processing plant, which makes it almost certain.

Apparently, Jenny-O hires 5000 illegals in their plants. Just another reason to switch from them.

I used to get their turkey sausage and burgers all the time. Now instead I get 95% lean ground beef for burgers from the butcher. It's leaner than turkey, fresh, less water, natural and is actual beef.

You can also buy organic/natural chicken sausage for about the same price as non-organic/artificial JO turkey sausage.

47 posted on 02/21/2008 4:40:54 AM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: magslinger; kittymyrib

Sorry about the double post. My coffee was still brewing.


48 posted on 02/21/2008 4:43:20 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: magslinger; All
I don't frickin' believe this. From this link....

Van Driver Had No Valid License?

According to court records, 23-year-old Alianiss Nunez Morales of Montevideo, MN was convicted of driving without a license two years ago. Authorities wouldn't say whether they've made an attempt to contact Morales.

My God.

49 posted on 02/21/2008 4:47:08 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
From this link....

Driver of Van That Hit Bus Didn't Have License

...The Marshall Independent says court records show that Morales pleaded guilty in Chippewa County in 2006 to driving without a valid license.

50 posted on 02/21/2008 4:53:48 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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