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Video of Spy Satellite Getting Shot Down
Gizmodo ^ | 21 February, 2008 | Gizmodo

Posted on 02/21/2008 5:27:51 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

Watch as General Cartwright, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (and apparently Jack Bauer's older brother) shows how the Aegis missile launches and successfully destroys the rogue spy satellite.

[Via Gizmodo]


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aegis; bloweduprealgood; missile; spacewar; spysatellite
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1 posted on 02/21/2008 5:27:54 AM PST by CarrotAndStick
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http://gizmodo.com/359031/video-of-spy-satellite-getting-shot-down


2 posted on 02/21/2008 5:28:28 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Bump for later!


3 posted on 02/21/2008 5:28:36 AM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge

Closing at 5 Miles per second and they hit the little targeted fuel tank.

A Direct Hit
Does missile defense actually work? An impromptu mission to destroy a potentially hazardous failing satellite has proven that the system in place can make a direct hit on a fast-moving target. The USS Lake Erie scored a direct hit on the targeted small fuel tank on a spy satellite traveling in polar orbit at 17,000 mile per hour, eliminating the fuel tank that had worried the US (via Worldwide Standard):

Over the last twenty years and more, we have heard from a variety of experts explaining how this is impossible. A rocket, they claimed, could not reliably be expected to target another rocket. They derided missile defense systems as “Star Wars” fantasy and demanded that we stop pursuing destabilizing efforts to actually defend ourselves from potential missile attack.

The Patriot missile systems began proving their abilities against Scud attacks in the Gulf War. They didn’t have a perfect record, but they did have an impressive run of mid-air intercepts — so impressive that the Israelis bought Patriot batteries from us. In the last seven years, we have continued to develop these defense systems, after the Clinton administration tried to mothball it.

Now we see that we can precisely target moving objects that aren’t specifically intended as tests. The missile and the satellite had a closing velocity of 22,000 miles per hour, and yet the Navy hit a bullseye on the first try. It sends a message to people like Kim Jong-Il and Ali Khameini that their ballistic missile systems have just been made obsolete. It also sends a message to the defeatists and naysayers from the last quarter-century that, like so many other times, they have been proven wrong in their defeatism.

Eventually, this could end the ballistic missile era. If effective defenses become widely available, there will not be much point in maintaining ballistic missile inventories at all. Ronald Reagan had that very vision when he first proposed SDI and tried to get the Soviets to partner with him on it.

Captains Quarters


4 posted on 02/21/2008 5:31:52 AM PST by HD1200
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To: CarrotAndStick

Kewl, thanks.


5 posted on 02/21/2008 5:33:24 AM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: CarrotAndStick

Team America: World Police

Youtube video “America, F* Yeah!”

[graphic language]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&feature=related


6 posted on 02/21/2008 5:34:46 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: CarrotAndStick

interesting. bet this sends a chill to the Chinese and others who seek to weaponize space.


7 posted on 02/21/2008 5:38:06 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Bump


8 posted on 02/21/2008 5:38:33 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: CarrotAndStick

Remember when the Democrats said that this would not work, was too expensive, and that it would worsen tensions between the US and Russia? Thank God Reagan had vision.

News flashback 1984

The Case Against Star Wars Weapons (TIME MAGAZINE)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,954303,00.html

Among the doubters were moderates like John Glenn as well as liberals like Massachusetts Democrat Paul Tsongas.

Lest there be any doubt that the issue will figure in the presidential campaign, Democratic Front Runner Walter Mondale last week denounced the plan as “dangerously destabilizing” and called for a freeze on military uses of space. The Democrats believe that the President’s embrace of antimissile weapons will fan fears that he is a trigger-happy nucl ear cowboy.


9 posted on 02/21/2008 5:40:36 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: CarrotAndStick

I watched it on CNN. It was a thing of beauty. I did note that they didn’t show the whole flight...don’t want the enemy to know just how fast we really are. ;-)

Thank you Ronald Reagan. I actually had the honor to participate in some of his initiatives. He would be rightfully proud to see today’s success. Good job to all who made the mission a success!!!


10 posted on 02/21/2008 5:41:00 AM PST by SueRae
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To: CarrotAndStick

Absofrickalutely awesome! Thanks!


11 posted on 02/21/2008 5:41:28 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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To: CarrotAndStick

bttt


12 posted on 02/21/2008 5:42:49 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: SueRae

It is just too bad that the missile couldn’t have been launched from the carrier Ronald Reagan, just to really rub the libs noses in it.


13 posted on 02/21/2008 5:43:43 AM PST by 3Lean
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To: CarrotAndStick

General Cartwright, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (and apparently Jack Bauer’s older brother)

LOL!


14 posted on 02/21/2008 5:44:23 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: CarrotAndStick

A big success, but I noticed that they had to delay the launch by a day due to weather. Hopefully, we can persuade the Chinese not to bomb us on rainy day.


15 posted on 02/21/2008 5:45:14 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: CarrotAndStick

That video is awesome. For the first time in my adult life I am proud to be an American.
/sarc


16 posted on 02/21/2008 5:50:18 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Brilliant
Hopefully, we can persuade the Chinese not to bomb us on rainy day.

Hopefully we just missed the /sarc tag. There's a big difference in sense-of-urgency between those two events.

We probably had several days in which to intercept this bird, so why not wait for ideal weather conditions?

17 posted on 02/21/2008 5:51:44 AM PST by craig_eddy (Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome)
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To: PurpleMan

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/02/21/satellite.shootdown/index.html#cnnSTCVideo


18 posted on 02/21/2008 5:52:09 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: HD1200
"It also sends a message to the defeatists and naysayers from the last quarter-century that, like so many other times, they have been proven wrong in their defeatism."

Big BUMP!

19 posted on 02/21/2008 5:55:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: CarrotAndStick

GRRRRREAT! Thanks very much for posting. (Interesting comments at link.)


20 posted on 02/21/2008 5:59:41 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Brilliant
A big success, but I noticed that they had to delay the launch by a day due to weather.

Just a guess, but it probably had more to do with the Space Shuttle's reentry yesterday. They track this stuff with radar and it wouldn't have taken the missile very long to get above the weather. Maybe they wanted a visual on it for the cameras to study later? If they'd have blown up the satellite before the Shuttle came back, it might have put the Shuttle in the position where it would have had to fly through the debris field left before it decays and burns up. The shuttle's trajectory on reentry yesterday brought it in diagonally over the south Pacific, over central America and into Florida. This undoubtedly would have crossed the path of a polar orbiting satellite.

21 posted on 02/21/2008 6:01:44 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: CarrotAndStick

And they said SDI would never work. Further proof that Reagan’s critics were ideological Luddites who were more concerned about their party’s well being than they were about national security.


22 posted on 02/21/2008 6:04:39 AM PST by Reaganesque (What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. --Oscar Wilde)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Being and old navy veteran, I am so proud of the men and women of the USS Lake Erie. That was some accomplishment.
Our military people are the best of the best!


23 posted on 02/21/2008 6:05:31 AM PST by longhorn too
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To: PurpleMan

“General Cartwright...”

First thing that came to my mind when I saw this name:
General Bullwright - “Stand at ease, America. Light ‘em if you got ‘em.”


24 posted on 02/21/2008 6:05:39 AM PST by mouske
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To: CarrotAndStick

Let’s see Russia or China accomplish this. Not in 1000 tries.


25 posted on 02/21/2008 6:05:53 AM PST by montag813
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To: missnry

LOL Michelle Obama says there is nothing funny about that and nothing to really be proud of a capitalistic society flexing it’s muscle in front of socialistic empires.....ROFL


26 posted on 02/21/2008 6:07:07 AM PST by Billg64
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To: HD1200
OK, speculative question.

What message is sent by the name of the missile?

SM-3

(STANDARD MISSILE 3)

27 posted on 02/21/2008 6:07:18 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Brilliant

Cartwright’s a Marine. He wants to put “lead on the target” the first time. (Translation: If we didn’t wait for sea state 2, the Navy would hose it up.)


28 posted on 02/21/2008 6:08:32 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: longhorn too

Two words........

GO NAVY!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 02/21/2008 6:12:29 AM PST by shredderman (Living in a Blue State, with a Blue Wife, But I'm Red to the bone.....)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Great video! Thanks! Was that a standard missile or a “Star Wars” missile? What exactly and where exactly do we have Star Wars deployed? Again thanks.


30 posted on 02/21/2008 6:17:35 AM PST by avacado
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To: CarrotAndStick

placemarker.


31 posted on 02/21/2008 6:18:00 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: montag813
Let’s see Russia or China accomplish this. Not in 1000 tries.

Let's jump in the wayback machine:

Chinese missile destroys satellite in space

32 posted on 02/21/2008 6:18:06 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: shredderman
Gee.

Does anyone think that the principal reason this disabled satellite was destroyed was to lessen the prospect that it would be recovered by our adversaries, who would otherwise have an intelligence bonanza?

Read Blind Man’s Bluff and Bamford’s books.

33 posted on 02/21/2008 6:19:22 AM PST by Bruce Buckley
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To: avacado

Aegis destroyers like the Lake Erie are part of Star Wars and they are, obviously, already deployed. There are supposed to be land based interceptors in Alaska, I believe; part of Clinton’s attempt to mothball the idea by limiting it’s deployment.


34 posted on 02/21/2008 6:20:43 AM PST by Reaganesque (What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. --Oscar Wilde)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Not the first time for the SM-3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDn5FDuV4wU

Here's a description of the missle.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-161.html

And then this from last November.

http://www.gizmag.com/ratheon-sm3-dual-intercept-missile/8352/

35 posted on 02/21/2008 6:20:58 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: Brilliant
A big success, but I noticed that they had to delay the launch by a day due to weather.

May have had more to do with instrumentation (and public relations). They probably wanted to gather optical data for test purposes as well as kewl video for the news conference.

What's the point of blowing up a satellite if the only ones who are going to know are folks who track satellites?

I seriously doubt that the AEGIS radar could possibly have tracked the target (or even has the instrumented range to do it if it wanted to try). The radar is too small and not powerful enough. (Power times aperture squared = track sensitivity.) Nor is it nearly accurate enough. There had to be some other instrumentation involved. May have been a handoff from GBR ("Great Big Radar") at the Ronald Reagan Nation Test Facility on Kwajalien or COBRA JUDY might have participated. I know not. I sort of doubt they were cuing on an optical sensor in any case, but stranger things have happened.

36 posted on 02/21/2008 6:25:11 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Action is eloquence. - Shakespeare)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Does this make you proud Michelle?


37 posted on 02/21/2008 6:28:28 AM PST by boomop1
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To: CarrotAndStick
Man, that was awesome to watch! Many thanks!
38 posted on 02/21/2008 6:29:18 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: boomop1
Does this make you proud Michelle?

Nope...it makes Ms. Hussein Obama weep like a little schoolgirl over the technology we destroyed and summarily deprived Communist China of ever having.

39 posted on 02/21/2008 6:31:30 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: CarrotAndStick
I love America!!

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

40 posted on 02/21/2008 6:32:44 AM PST by expatguy ("An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - New & Improved - Now with Search)
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To: CarrotAndStick

BTTT


41 posted on 02/21/2008 6:32:57 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Digital Sniper

Wow. There’s a leap in logical conclusions.


42 posted on 02/21/2008 6:32:58 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: HD1200
Now we see that we can precisely target moving objects that aren’t specifically intended as tests. The missile and the satellite had a closing velocity of 22,000 miles per hour, and yet the Navy hit a bullseye on the first try. It sends a message to people like Kim Jong-Il and Ali Khameini that their ballistic missile systems have just been made obsolete. It also sends a message to the defeatists and naysayers from the last quarter-century that, like so many other times, they have been proven wrong in their defeatism.

It was very impressive, but I'm afraid you're reading far too much into it. Shooting down this particular satellite is in no way comparable to shooting down a ballistic missile. Yes, the sat was moving quickly, but the similarity between the two scenarios ends there.

We had weeks to target to this satellite, run numbers, do a simulation, back to numbers and try again until it works out. We'd have minutes to take down an ICBM.

You should also note that we moved this event back a day due to weather. We won't be able to count on a foreign power launching a missile under ideal intercept conditions.

What we did show the world is that their sats are very vulnerable to our weapons. We've demonstrated that we can take out any enemy satellite from a mobile location anywhere on the ocean.

43 posted on 02/21/2008 6:33:31 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas

Also by not doing it in the most adverse conditions (like sea stae 5) they don’t know the capabilites.

I think we could have, they think we could have, we know that they think we could have...but they aren’t sure.

Leaves ‘em wondering.


44 posted on 02/21/2008 6:38:45 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: CarrotAndStick

YES!!! Go NAVY!!!!

A thought passed through my mind....Hillary & Bill would probably love to get this info into their files as table talk on a lavish visit to China or hosting one of their buddies on our soil. They probably need the money after Hillary’s spending spree!


45 posted on 02/21/2008 6:38:51 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: CarrotAndStick
Makes me warm and proud all over, I bet the Chinks and Russkies are pondering our missile defense, if they had any doubt.
46 posted on 02/21/2008 6:39:13 AM PST by boomop1
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To: montag813
Just one month ago China did the same. The mission was nothing but a show of strength.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- China last week successfully used a missile to destroy an orbiting satellite, U.S. government officials told CNN on Thursday, in a test that could undermine relations with the West and pose a threat to satellites important to the U.S. military. According to a spokesman for the National Security Council, the ground-based, medium-range ballistic missile knocked an old Chinese weather satellite from its orbit about 537 miles above Earth. The missile carried a "kill vehicle" and destroyed the satellite by ramming it.

47 posted on 02/21/2008 6:47:11 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: HD1200
Eventually, this could end the ballistic missile era.

That would put creeps like Vladimir Putin out of business.

48 posted on 02/21/2008 6:47:56 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: CarrotAndStick

cool! :-)


49 posted on 02/21/2008 6:50:16 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: CarrotAndStick

Wow!


50 posted on 02/21/2008 6:51:25 AM PST by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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