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Congressman Rob Wittman Cosponsors Fair Tax
Americans For Fair Taxation ^

Posted on 02/21/2008 12:23:50 PM PST by Man50D

The Americans For Fair Taxation welcomes Congressman Rob Wittman to The Fair Tax movement. He joined The Fair Tax movement on February 14th. Representative Wittman is the 74th cosponsor. His signing is the second in February. Clearly the grassroots momentum for The Fair Tax is growing! Please keep up your enthusiasm for Fair Tax! Congratulations Representative Wittman for joining The Fair Tax movement!


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; entitlement; fairtax; fairtaxscam; national; newirs; program; robwittman; salestax; taxreform
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1 posted on 02/21/2008 12:23:51 PM PST by Man50D
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To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; Jaysun; ...

Fair Tax ping!


2 posted on 02/21/2008 12:24:29 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Let’s see how long it will take this time.


3 posted on 02/21/2008 12:32:26 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: Man50D

If we don’t FIRST eliminate the 16th Amendment, we WILL end up with both a Sales Tax and an Income Tax. Count on it.


4 posted on 02/21/2008 12:33:50 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Let’s see how long it will take this time.

I'm surprised you beat them to the punch. They're slowing down.
5 posted on 02/21/2008 12:33:50 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Good work Rob. He is a smart devoted conservative from Virginia. We should see a lot of good things coming from Rob’s desk.


6 posted on 02/21/2008 12:36:30 PM PST by Pinetop
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To: Republic of Texas
If we don’t FIRST eliminate the 16th Amendment, we WILL end up with both a Sales Tax and an Income Tax. Count on it.

There's been nothing to stop Congress in the past from passing a national sales tax while maintaining an income tax except for one little detail called constituents. Congress critters know they would experience outrage on the same level as when they tried to grant amnesty to illegal aliens if they tried to have both taxes.
7 posted on 02/21/2008 12:37:19 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

As with the Immigration debacle, they WILL try.


8 posted on 02/21/2008 12:38:27 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas
As with the Immigration debacle, they WILL try.

And will lose as they did twice this past summer.
9 posted on 02/21/2008 12:39:17 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
Welcome aboard Congressman Whittman!

If the United States is ever again to be a truly FREE country we MUST rid ourselves of the communist inspired income tax and the IRS!

10 posted on 02/21/2008 12:42:27 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Man50D
Feels kinda lonesome, doesn't it?
11 posted on 02/21/2008 12:45:16 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Let’s see how long it will take this time.
Do you mean how long until you get this thread sent to the Smoky Backroom?
12 posted on 02/21/2008 12:45:54 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Feels kinda lonesome, doesn't it?

22 minutes.
13 posted on 02/21/2008 12:47:58 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Republic of Texas
If we don’t FIRST eliminate the 16th Amendment, we WILL end up with both a Sales Tax and an Income Tax. Count on it.

Firs, let me say that I know of not a single FairTax supporter who does not also support repeal of the 16th amendment but, as a practical matter, there is simply NO way it can happen as you suggest. Congress is NOT going to move to repeal the 16th amendment without first having a viable replacement tax in place.

Secondly, if what you say were true, why do we not have them both today as there is currently NOTHING preventing it?

14 posted on 02/21/2008 12:49:06 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Man50D

Isn’t it interesting that all these Republican sign on when they no longer have the power to even get the FairTax out of committee? Where were they when they had the opportunity to actually get the FairTax voted on? It seems the FairTax is a lot more popular with Republicans in the House when they know it’s not going anywhere.


15 posted on 02/21/2008 12:49:22 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Man50D
22 minutes.
I'm sorry, is this a private forum? If you want to post your spam unchallenged, maybe you should start your own site.
16 posted on 02/21/2008 12:51:52 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

about as meaningful as siging onto the flag burning amendment. or the right to life amendment.

sponsorships don’t matter because people do vote against bills they sponsor. Has it left committee? no? then there is the REAL question of parlementary procedure.


17 posted on 02/21/2008 12:53:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Your Nightmare
Do you mean how long until you get this thread sent to the Smoky Backroom? Remember, that's your idea, not mine. So let's see where the thread takes us, shall we.

As usual, it's your first move. That one isn't quite up to your usual standrad -- yet.

18 posted on 02/21/2008 12:55:10 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

But, I see you’re working on it.


19 posted on 02/21/2008 12:57:33 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: Your Nightmare
It is an absolute mystery to me why you and your merry band spend SO much of you valuable time attempting to put down something you universally claim to be "going nowhere".

Why is that?

20 posted on 02/21/2008 1:00:34 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Man50D
By the way, Rob Wittman replace Jo Ann Davis who died in office. Rep. Davis is still listed as a cosponsor. Are you counting both of them?

As usual with the FairTax, the truth is a little different than what they claim.
21 posted on 02/21/2008 1:00:45 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Bigun
Why is that?
I'm just hanging around to see Turret Gunner go off again.

tick...tick...tick...
22 posted on 02/21/2008 1:03:51 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

Guy is a lunatic that’s for sure. Fun to watch him come unglued.


23 posted on 02/21/2008 1:07:21 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Bigun

Just posting a warning, I’d like to see meaningful tax reform as much as anyone. I just don’t trust Congress.


24 posted on 02/21/2008 1:11:51 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Bigun
If the United States is ever again to be a truly FREE country we MUST rid ourselves of the communist inspired income tax and the IRS!

The best way to end the income tax is to end withholding. Make people write those checks so they know what they're paying.

25 posted on 02/21/2008 1:14:13 PM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Republic of Texas

Repeal of the 16th amendment will be a FAR simpler matter once the FairTax is the law of the land as there will be millions pushing for that result once they have taste some REAL freedom.


26 posted on 02/21/2008 1:20:01 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: nina0113
The best way to end the income tax is to end withholding.

I agree with that! Withholding was adopted during WWII as a "temporary" war measure and should be repealed immediately!

Make people write those checks so they know what they're paying.

Although that would certainly be an improvement, it would not solve the problem entirely as so much of what one pays today is hidden within the prices of U.S. produced goods and services.

27 posted on 02/21/2008 1:26:55 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Republic of Texas

True, but what you are missing is that the FairTax leadership in Congress is very aware of just that point and they are not going to allow the 16th to survive.

Here’s what they are planning right now:

1. Pass the FairTax but do not enact it until the 16th is repealed. This puts pressure on Congress and States to repeal the 16th.

2. FairTax leaders are now meeting regularly with the American Legislative Exchange Council, a bipartison organization of state legislators, to ‘memorialize’ Congress for drafting a Constitutional Convention for the sole and exclusive purpose of repealing the 16th. Only 34 states are needed to memorialize Congress and then Congress has to do it. The last I heard they have a high number of states willing.

The danger with enacting the FairTax without repealing the 16th is that people will get complacent and think that the unapportioned Income tax is gone and there’s no pressure to repeal the 16th amendment that no one is using anyways.

But in the future all it takes is one class warfare argument to soak the rich and Congress will resuscitate the unapportioned Income tax and then 15-20 years later the cancer will have spread again. That’s the way it happened in 1913 and since that year the Income Tax Code has had five major reforms, each time trying to drive this cancer into remission. It is the 16th that is the root of the cancer. It will always come back to make society sick until another reform provides relief.

The reason the FairTax was not implemented in 1913 is because it was technologically unfeasible but that is not the case now.

So yes you are right the 16th must absolutely be wiped out without a hope of ever returning. The good news is that the FairTax leadership is working that issue daily.


28 posted on 02/21/2008 1:35:11 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Man50D
And these cruds deny being trolls and "master-baiters". I think these few posts are adequate to show their true objective on FRee Republic is to disrupt and bait anyone with whom they disagree into allowing them to ruin all Fair Tax threads. :

To: Turret Gunner A20
Let’s see how long it will take this time.

Do you mean how long until you get this thread sent to the Smoky Backroom? 12 posted on 02/21/2008 12:45:54 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Man50D
22 minutes.

I'm sorry, is this a private forum? If you want to post your spam unchallenged, maybe you should start your own site. 16 posted on 02/21/2008 12:51:52 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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By the way, Rob Wittman replace Jo Ann Davis who died in office. Rep. Davis is still listed as a cosponsor. Are you counting both of them?

As usual with the FairTax, the truth is a little different than what they claim. 21 posted on 02/21/2008 1:00:45 PM PST by Your Nightmare
==========================================================================> Why is that?

I'm just hanging around to see Turret Gunner go off again.

tick...tick...tick... 22 posted on 02/21/2008 1:03:51 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

Guy is a lunatic that’s for sure. Fun to watch him come unglued. 23 posted on 02/21/2008 1:07:21 PM PST by Fido969
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Truly childish behavior.

It would be funny, if it weren't so pathetic.

Have fun kiddies, you just proved what I have been saying for months.

29 posted on 02/21/2008 1:36:36 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.)
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To: Hostage

Repealing an Amendment is much more difficult and time consuming than passing a law. Lawmakers are basically lazy. You do the math.


30 posted on 02/21/2008 1:36:41 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

The unapportioned Income tax was fifty years in the making.

FairTax passage will be less than twenty years in the making.

The ALEC and Congressional leaders of the FairTax will draft Congress into a convention to repeal the 16th just as soon as the grassroots has had a couple more years to spread the message.

If the Convention to repeal the 16th starts in 2010-2011, the ratification process will take two more years.

Repeal the 16th in 2013 is symbolic, 100 years to the day that the deception was amended into the US Constitution.

Some laws such as minor amendments are passed quickly, others take years. Also lawmakers are not lazy, they and their staffs work long hours.

There is no math to do. It is a process, not a calculation.

What else you got to add? American legislators are too corrupt to do away with special favors in the the income tax code blah, blah, blah?

I have heard it all and despite the hecklers, the drive-by snipes and the usual set of disruptors, the FairTax movement keeps growing and at an increasing rate, not only in Congress but at the grassroots as well.


31 posted on 02/21/2008 1:50:55 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Republic of Texas
Just posting a warning, I’d like to see meaningful tax reform as much as anyone. I just don’t trust Congress.

Neither does The Americans For Fair Taxation to the extent they will do it by themselves. All the cosponsors are the result of increase pressure brought to bare on politicians with the understanding they risk losing their jobs if they don't support The Fair Tax and concurrently abolishing the 16th Amendment.
32 posted on 02/21/2008 4:44:37 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Your Nightmare
I'm just hanging around to see Turret Gunner go off again.

It didn't take long. "master-baiters" though he used last week. I was hoping for some originality.

33 posted on 02/22/2008 12:19:26 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Man50D
Proposals such as fair tax, or fair anything, are losing ground rather than advancing everyday that more Obamians line up. Its much easier to impoverish the rich and rich the impoverished with the income tax machinery. The IRS is already a welfare agency.
34 posted on 02/22/2008 12:26:08 PM PST by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: Your Nightmare
By the way, Rob Wittman replace Jo Ann Davis who died in office. Rep. Davis is still listed as a cosponsor. Are you counting both of them?

Either way, they are just 200 votes away from getting it passed. During the last 10 years or so they have increased from the low 50's to the low 70's. Maybe in a hundred years....

35 posted on 02/22/2008 12:34:04 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Your Nightmare

I noticed that, but the facts never get in the way of a good FT story.


36 posted on 02/22/2008 1:37:56 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: Republic of Texas
Something that gave birth to the income tax, and they have never, ever trusted before, now they want to believe in like the second coming. One seriously has to wonder if the elevator doesn’t make it to the top floor...
37 posted on 02/22/2008 1:40:18 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: CarryingOn
Proposals such as fair tax, or fair anything, are losing ground rather than advancing everyday that more Obamians line up.

Really? Then you better tell that to the 74 cosponsors of The Fair Tax including the two that signed on just this month and the growing ranks of The Americans For Fair Taxation.
38 posted on 02/22/2008 1:46:29 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: CarryingOn

FYI:
13.8% support - they couldn’t pass gas in congress at that rate..


39 posted on 02/22/2008 1:49:22 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel
"To: cowboyway
Proof positive that the only defense of the FT is incessant blistering personal attacks.
I hope your're proud of yourself.
401 posted on 02/17/2008 8:51:41 AM PST by xcamel"

One seriously has to wonder if the elevator doesn’t make it to the top floor...

You've made it two posts this time!

40 posted on 02/22/2008 1:51:52 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas

“personally attacked” whom, exactly?

Please be specific.


41 posted on 02/22/2008 1:56:50 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel
It looks like you attacked anyone who doesn’t agree with you (or at least someone in favor of the fair-tax). A personal attack doesn’t have to be just one single person.
42 posted on 02/22/2008 2:06:26 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas

That’s called bending the rules to fit your agenda.

well noted by everyone.


43 posted on 02/22/2008 2:17:34 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: Hostage
It is the 16th that is the root of the cancer. It will always come back to make society sick until another reform provides relief.

The FairTax is just another kind of cancer.

44 posted on 02/22/2008 2:22:34 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: xcamel
No it isn’t. If I said, “Congressmen are all liars,” that would be another example of a personal attack on multiple people. Your comment, although implicit, is still a personal attack.
45 posted on 02/22/2008 2:33:10 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas

Why don’t you concentrate on the topic, instead of just trying to make trouble?


46 posted on 02/22/2008 2:41:09 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel

LOL!


47 posted on 02/22/2008 2:46:11 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones..

Can Liberals End the War?
Posted by In veno, veritas to rface
On News/Activism 01/07/2008 10:08:20 AM EST · 12 of 30

Googled the authors name. Short version is that he’s a Marxist idiot. One day he will hopefully awaken from his fantasy world, but I doubt it. He'll probably spend the rest of his life being an idiot but not realize it because he went to Harvard.

48 posted on 02/22/2008 3:00:20 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel
Wow, you spent all that time finding that one? That is another fine example of a personal attack. Good job! Still, that is no defense for you to post all of your personal attacks on the fellow freepers.
49 posted on 02/22/2008 3:13:31 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: Man50D; Turret Gunner A20
Sorry, I guess I’ve hijacked the thread. Didn’t mean too.
50 posted on 02/22/2008 3:15:21 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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