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Chinese urged to report smokers[Report their Family members]
BBC ^ | 21 Feb 2008 | BBC

Posted on 02/21/2008 2:24:16 PM PST by BGHater

Smokers in Beijing
China has an estimated 350 million smokers

Health officials in the Chinese city of Chongqing are urging people to report their family members to the authorities if they violate a smoking ban.

The initiative is part of a campaign in two districts of the city to tackle the effects of passive smoking.

Those who are accused of smoking will have their names posted on a warning list on community notice boards.

As well as the campaign within families, a workplace smoking ban is also being tried in public buildings.

A hospital boss whose organisation is taking part in the trial said he would cut the bonuses of any team where members were found to have smoked.

Cigarettes are hugely popular in China, which is estimated to have a total of 350 million smokers.

The World Health Organization has estimated that 3,000 people die in China each day from the effects of smoking.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2takethingsaway; 4thecommongood; china; chinese; smokers; smoking
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1 posted on 02/21/2008 2:24:18 PM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

And here we thought China was so much different than the U.S....


2 posted on 02/21/2008 2:25:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: BGHater

Time for their citizens to buy flame throwers to light their Camels......


3 posted on 02/21/2008 2:27:13 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: DoughtyOne

No we’re not. We’re closer than people think. I quit smoking but it was my idea....not my governments.


4 posted on 02/21/2008 2:28:08 PM PST by RC2
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To: BGHater

The World Health Organization has estimated that 3,000 people die in China each day from the effects of smoking.

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Piffle.

China probably aborts that many babies per day. So what’s the big deal?


5 posted on 02/21/2008 2:28:57 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (John McCain. 2008ís version of Bob Dole.)
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To: illiac

Stupid communists - it’s the nicotine that’s keeping 350 million Chinese working and paying for their workers’ paradise.

Better leave their smokes alone or all hell will break loose.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!


6 posted on 02/21/2008 2:31:45 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: illiac

Years back Califonia stuck a $0.25 cent tax on each cigarette pack sold, in order to have funding to ‘inform the public’ regarding the dangers of cigarette smoke.

Now they’re spending the money to demonize appartment dwellers who smoke.

You couldn’t make this stuff up...


7 posted on 02/21/2008 2:32:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: BGHater
3,000 people die in China each day from the effects of smoking

Wow! That's a lot of dying. My friend who went there recently said people greet one another with a cigarette instead of a handshake - strange. I'll bet a lot of those 'smoking deaths' stem from the rampant pollution and the chemicals in the food and air, more than just the cigarettes.

8 posted on 02/21/2008 2:36:29 PM PST by Chili Girl
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; Gabz; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; CSM

PING.

Hey, it’s just the commie-totalitarian-fascist way.

Where’s the usual suspects? I’ll wager this’ll hit too close to home for them, lol.


9 posted on 02/21/2008 3:01:23 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: BGHater

I’ve been there... 350 million must be the goal, not the current number.

The ones that aren’t smoking can’t afford to keep a lit cigarette in their mouths every waking moment.


10 posted on 02/21/2008 3:31:42 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: BGHater

Good. A nasty habit whose adherents barely deserve legitimacy. Nice thing about a totalitarian system is that something like this can be rather effective. Like when Iran and NorthKorea banned smoking in the past couple of years. Instant acceptance of the new rules. And nice, that, we could have a rabid nonsmoking mullah meet an Iranian mullah on common ground. Say in NYC.

America has made a lot of headway in demonizing smoking; there are still some holdout states, some partial bans in bars in some places, but if we start taking a page out of the Chinese method, we could get rid of those too.

We are almost on par with the Chinese; we’ve got regulation concerning tobacco use in private domiciles; rented mainly for now, but shouldn’t be too much of a stretch to get the law to apply to property owned by a smoker.


11 posted on 02/21/2008 3:59:21 PM PST by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001!)
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To: swarthyguy

mmnnnn....you forgot your sarcasm tag. You were being sarcastic...right? It’s getting hard to tell on FR anymore where smokers are concerned.


12 posted on 02/21/2008 7:38:15 PM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Ohio & Texas-cross over & vote Obama! LEAVE NO DOUBT! TAKE THEM OUT!)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; Eric Blair 2084

Sarcasm, irony and satire are sooooooo 20th Century, don’t you think.

If the cause is righteous enough, as wiping out the scourge of tabak rightly is, “minor” transgression of individual rights, the negation of the right to assembly with like minded individuals, the elevation of the dubious science behind the Jihad onto a sacred pedestal - all these are amply justified by the greater good achieved in the ideal of the health and public welfare.

And it also helps the cause of global peace; what else could North Korean Communists, Iranian theocrats, Sunni jihadis, Western Liberals and Conservatives all agree upon. The evil of smoking.

If we start small with the things we agree on, then we can find more common areas of agreement, say banning alcohol.

So, in conclusion, if you smoke or support the “right” of smokers to indulge in their ghastly habit, then you may well be against World Peace.


13 posted on 02/22/2008 10:59:32 AM PST by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001!)
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To: swarthyguy

I guess you weren’t being sarcastic. You’re insane instead.


14 posted on 02/22/2008 11:13:17 AM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Ohio & Texas-cross over & vote Obama! LEAVE NO DOUBT! TAKE THEM OUT!)
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15 posted on 02/22/2008 7:36:19 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; swarthyguy

Dark, swarthy has a sicker sense of humor than me. Don’t take him so seriously.


16 posted on 02/22/2008 7:37:26 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: BGHater
Stop the passive smoke. Save their lungs so they can breathe in the Chinese air!


17 posted on 02/22/2008 7:44:03 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: swarthyguy

Well, we’ve already adopted the tactics of totalitarian states in the War on Drugs, so why not in the War on Tabacoo, too? Because the WoD has been such a rousing success, right? Why, we’ll win it any day now.


18 posted on 02/22/2008 7:46:25 PM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: -YYZ-

The War on Drugs is great. Put everyone in jail. That will just clear the highways and roads and reduce traffic.

I personally benefit. Less congestion, less traffic.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 7:57:59 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: BGHater

The Party says smoking is bad for your health. Quit smoking or we will shoot you.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 8:23:07 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

bump!


21 posted on 02/22/2008 8:35:01 PM PST by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: BGHater

Was the ban started by a guy named Hu Qa-Bi?


22 posted on 02/22/2008 8:38:46 PM PST by Redcloak ("A plague o' both your houses!")
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To: TigersEye

23 posted on 02/22/2008 8:50:47 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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24 posted on 02/22/2008 8:51:59 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 02/22/2008 9:07:58 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Eric Blair 2084

How can I stop smoking when every time you ping me to something it burns me up?


26 posted on 02/22/2008 9:36:43 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; swarthyguy

Oh, OK. Wow, that’s pretty sick LOL If’n you vouch for him, I reckon he’s all right. I get overly defensive due to all the ‘convenient conservative’ whackjobs on FR. The ones that say “I’m a conservative, EXCEPT where _____ (fill in the blank) is concerned.” If sarcasm comes into the picture, it becomes more difficult to tell these days. ;^D


27 posted on 02/22/2008 9:40:24 PM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Ohio & Texas-cross over & vote Obama! LEAVE NO DOUBT! TAKE THEM OUT!)
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To: -YYZ-; Eric Blair 2084

Some on the board (myself included) feel the War On Drugs was what slowly and eventually led to the War On Smokers.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:12 PM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Ohio & Texas-cross over & vote Obama! LEAVE NO DOUBT! TAKE THEM OUT!)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

Absolutely.

I haven’t smoked pot since the first year of the Bush 41 administration. The crap never agreed with me, just made me paranoid.

But it’s the same idea.

“Show me how much oppression the people are willing to take and I will show you how much will be heeped upon them.”


29 posted on 02/22/2008 9:51:23 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TigersEye; elkfersupper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPywgiMb4k

Like me and elk talked about yesterday, left wing liberals are miserable. They hate America and want to change the greatest country in the history of the planet. Whenever they succeed, like when a smoker ban is successful it just makes me and you and everyone else miserable.

Let them wallow in their own filth and misery. I’m just going to sit on the computer with you and laugh at them.

I’m going to heed the words of that great poet and philosopher William Joel.


30 posted on 02/22/2008 10:02:40 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: BGHater

From what I’ve heard about China, cigarette smoke is cleaner than the surrounding air.


31 posted on 02/22/2008 10:07:28 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

He’s baaaa...cck. The smoking threads draw him like a moth to a flame.


32 posted on 02/22/2008 10:15:33 PM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Ohio & Texas-cross over & vote Obama! LEAVE NO DOUBT! TAKE THEM OUT!)
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33 posted on 02/22/2008 10:22:57 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Ouch!


34 posted on 02/22/2008 11:23:28 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

Libs are like schoolyard bullies. Ouch is right.

That’s what the bully said when we punched him in the mouth when we were kids.


35 posted on 02/22/2008 11:29:18 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: RC2
No we’re not. We’re closer than people think. I quit smoking but it was my idea....not my governments.

I quit smoking becuase of the policy in U.S. against smoking. There was no longer anywhere it was legal to smoke. The government most certainly made this decision for you. Who are you trying to kid.

36 posted on 02/22/2008 11:36:38 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: RC2

37 posted on 02/22/2008 11:39:47 PM PST by BJungNan
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38 posted on 02/22/2008 11:40:22 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: BJungNan

China, Ohio, what’s the difference?


39 posted on 02/22/2008 11:46:50 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: swarthyguy

PING!


40 posted on 02/23/2008 12:27:06 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Refusing to calm down since the Waco massacre.)
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To: swarthyguy
Yes, yes, let's be more like the Utopian communists! Then we'll all be free and equal!

Oh wait, isn't that what the democRats are doing already?

41 posted on 02/23/2008 5:37:49 AM PST by Budge
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
Insane and demented. How people could even think like this is beyond me. It’s LIBERAL FACISM at it’s finest.
42 posted on 02/23/2008 7:16:25 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Eric Blair 2084
China, Ohio, what’s the difference?

There are heaps of differences but for starters, capitalism is alive and well in China for both large and small entrepreneurs. China welcomes business while Ohio is a considerably less business friendly government. Any Ohio city would drool over the prospects of just one new factory while Chinese cities are seen hundreds of new factories opening in a single year.

On where someone can smoke or where a business is allowed to let its customer's smoke, then China now seems to be catching up to the U.S. in an erosion of those personal freedoms.

43 posted on 02/23/2008 7:34:37 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: Redcloak

LOL!


44 posted on 02/23/2008 7:44:12 AM PST by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; swarthyguy
He is not insane, he is right. I agree with him. The bans on cigarettes mirror the behavioral changes that were the precursors of larger social movements that went too far.

First tell someone they can not smoke, next tell them what kinds of cars they can drive, then burn down car dealerships that sell Hummers. A movement is started against obesity and fast food. Following on those breaches of personal liberty, society begins to act like a religious zealot in the control of many other personal freedoms, irrationally as is the case of those that want to ban cigarettes.

The only point of disagreement I have with swarthyguy is that I view China has having more personal freedoms (not political freedoms) on a day to day basis than does the U.S.

45 posted on 02/23/2008 7:47:03 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: BGHater
Those who are accused of smoking will have their names posted on a warning list on community notice boards be euthanized inhumanely and have their organs and useful proteins harvested.

Fixed...
46 posted on 02/23/2008 9:09:00 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: BJungNan

True, scary and sad.


47 posted on 02/23/2008 7:11:43 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

O-H-I-O S-U-C-K-S !!!


48 posted on 02/24/2008 3:18:08 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Hey, ho, way to go, Ohio.


49 posted on 02/24/2008 3:18:29 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Here’s a link to some Ohio whiners:

http://www.smokechoke.com


50 posted on 02/24/2008 3:19:27 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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