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Plane Carrying 46 Missing in Venezuela
AP ^ | 2/21/08 | AP

Posted on 02/21/2008 5:54:26 PM PST by halosfan2002

Plane Carrying 46 Missing in Venezuela


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KEYWORDS: aviation; caracas; missing; planecrash; venezuela
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Would it be bad to wish Hugo was on board?
1 posted on 02/21/2008 5:54:27 PM PST by halosfan2002
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To: halosfan2002

Prayers for those souls on board the missing plane.


2 posted on 02/21/2008 5:55:44 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: halosfan2002

Hugo’s fault.


3 posted on 02/21/2008 6:00:36 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: halosfan2002

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/02/21/venezuela.plane.ap/index.html

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — A commercial jetliner with 43 people on board was reported missing in western Venezuela on Thursday, officials said.

Noel Marquez, director of Venezuela’s emergency management agency in the western city of Merida, said the twin-engine plane did not make contact with control towers in two cities as expected after it took off from Merida en route to Simon Bolivar International Airport outside of Caracas.

“It did not make contact with the control towers,” Marquez said.

-snip-


4 posted on 02/21/2008 6:06:08 PM PST by RDTF (Go AEGIS!)
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To: halosfan2002

Arkancide?


5 posted on 02/21/2008 6:15:20 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: halosfan2002
Brazil nut head Hugo will turn this into a propaganda moment and claim that the U.S. CIA is responsible for the plane crash in Venezuela.

But, we all know that our CIA is grossly incompetent and spends most of its high profile work time leaking to the NY Times the precious information that should be held sacred and protecting Americans.

6 posted on 02/21/2008 6:24:32 PM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: halosfan2002
Translated on Google, not my bad English

In 46 persons aboard the aircraft: 43 passengers and 3 crew members. Albino The pilot and the copilot Garabito Denis Ferreira.
ACTUALIZACION: 10:00 PM UPDATE: 10:00 PM The Agency confirms FrancePress versions that residents of the area saw the plane crash:

A commercial airliner disappeared Thursday with 46 people on board would have crashed into the sector Coyado del Condor in the Venezuelan Andes (southwest), as reported residents of the place that witnessed the accident, told AFP the director of Civil Defense of Merida, Nelsón Marquez.

"We received a phone call from some people in the sector. At this time rescue crews are going to the area to confirm the information, "said Marquez, who pointed out that the accident site is located 4,750 meters above sea level, near the lagoon The Pernada.

7 posted on 02/21/2008 6:41:41 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Pylon

Plane is an ATR-42 turbo prop, picture of the plane here http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01118324&size=medium


8 posted on 02/21/2008 6:45:03 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: halosfan2002
Would it be bad to wish Hugo was on board?

Only if you wish the other 45 no harm :>} Hugo gone would free a lot of people and rid us of a potential regional Hitler wannabe.

9 posted on 02/21/2008 6:47:08 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: halosfan2002; Pylon
Official: Airliner With 46 On Board Crashes In Venezuela - AFP

CARACAS (AFP)--A Venezuelan airliner that went missing with 46 people on board apparently crashed in the Andean region of Coyado del Condor Thursday, a regional civil defense official told AFP, citing witnesses in the area.

10 posted on 02/21/2008 6:49:06 PM PST by jdm (The traffic lights turn blue tomorrow.)
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To: Pylon

I hope they find them before the survivors start eating each other.


11 posted on 02/21/2008 7:05:53 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: Palladin; All

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571


12 posted on 02/21/2008 7:07:26 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: halosfan2002

Would all idiots please refrain from celebrating the probable deaths of some people who have nothing to do with the disgusting government of Hugo Chavez, and probably voted against him, since they could afford airline tickets?


13 posted on 02/21/2008 7:08:31 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Pylon
From another website, Airliners.net, posted by a resident of Venezuela.

Some facts of the flight:

- It was scheduled for its departure at 16:50 (21:20 GMT), and arrival al 18:15 to CCS.

- There were 46 pax on board (43 pax + 3 crew). In the pax list there is a politician, his son and a journalist.

- The ceiling at the moment of the crash was 13.000 feet, and the doomed plane reported on the Observatory nearby Merida (a standard visual procedure). Then, contact was lost.

- None of the airports nearby (El Vigia, Valera, Barquisimeto, Barinas) received any distress call.

- The crew seemed to be qualified (It's been said that the pilot was a senior ATR Captain in Santa Barbara)

I will keep you informed if I have further news. My prayers with the relatives and friends of the passengers and crew.

Saludos,

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3856132/ Reply 23. Could just be hearsay for all I know.

14 posted on 02/21/2008 7:14:48 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Pylon

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3856132/


15 posted on 02/21/2008 7:15:38 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: halosfan2002

No


16 posted on 02/21/2008 7:22:34 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: halosfan2002

Prayers for their safety.


17 posted on 02/21/2008 7:24:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Dog Gone

Was thinking the same thing.


18 posted on 02/21/2008 7:32:33 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Dog Gone

great post


19 posted on 02/21/2008 7:36:01 PM PST by RDTF (Go AEGIS!)
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To: halosfan2002

Prayers sent.


20 posted on 02/21/2008 7:49:02 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Pylon

What’s Santa Barbara Airlines?


21 posted on 02/21/2008 8:53:10 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: Brilliant
Drinking Coffee Why's it my fault?
 
22 posted on 02/21/2008 8:54:44 PM PST by HawaiianGecko
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To: AmericaUnite
"What's Santa Barbara Airlines?"

Santa Barbara Airlines is an airline based in Caracas, Venezuela. It operates scheduled domestic and international services. Its main base is Simón Bolívar International Airport (CCS), Maiquetía, with a hub at La Chinita International Airport (MAR), Maracaibo

23 posted on 02/21/2008 9:09:48 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Pylon
"A Venezuelan airliner with 46 people on board crashed late Thursday in northern Venezuela, Union Radio reported citing civil defence regional chief Gerardo Rojas.

Rescue crews were racing to the poorly accessible crash site in the Andes Mountains at an altitude of 4,750 metres in Paramo Piedra, where the wreckage was spotted from the air after a search for the missing Santa Barbara Airlines ATR-42, Venezuelan officials said.

There was no immediate word about the fate of the passengers and crew.

The twin-engine propeller plane reportedly disappeared from radar screens during a Venezuelan domestic flight from Merida to Maiquetia. There were no radio communications from the plane after it vanished about 40 minutes into the scheduled two-hour trip.

Link

24 posted on 02/21/2008 9:16:11 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Pylon

I have flown in that region of the Venezuelan Andes...literally you can touch thse peaks they are so close.


25 posted on 02/21/2008 9:19:17 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Pylon
Translated again by Google

"According to AFP, inhabitants of the Andes saw the plane crash Santa Barbara Airlines

A commercial airliner disappeared Thursday with 46 people on board would have crashed into the sector Coyado del Condor in the Venezuelan Andes (southwest), as reported residents of the place that witnessed the accident, told AFP the director of Civil Defense of Merida, Noel Marquez.

"We received a phone call from some people in the sector. Currently rescue crews are going to the area to confirm the information," said Marquez, who pointed out that the accident site is located 4,750 meters above sea level, The pond near the Pernada.

This information was confirmed by Antonio Rivero, national director of Civil Defence, who said that "it was located at a place of the moor." In addition, he said the state unaware of the plane as well as that of their passengers.

The National Institute of Civil Aeronautics (INAC) reported that at the end of Thursday, reported the disappearance of an aircraft type ATR42-300 enrollment YV1449, flight 518, the company Santa Barbara Airlines, which was not declared missing when he arrived at his destination according to the published schedule.

The aircraft took off from Alberto Carnevali airport in the city of Merida at 4:59 pm for the Maiquetía International Airport "Simon Bolivar" with an estimated flight time of 1 hour and 45 minutes, and the same carrying on 43 passengers and 3 crew (pilot, co-pilot and assistant board).

Once submitted the incident, authorities activated immediately operations by the Service Search and Rescue (SAR) of INAC, immediately deploying staff of this service, along with officials from other agencies of the Venezuelan State, and rescue groups among others, to develop search patterns to locate the aircraft.

The authorities of INAC, in conjunction with the Institute of Maiquetía International Airport, are coordinating all matters relating to meet the relatives of passengers on board the flight.

Carlos Ferrer, chief operating officer of La Chinita Airport in Maracaibo, reported that the name of the pilot of the aircraft would be Albino Garabito and the co-pilot Denis Ferreira.

The Globovision correspondent in the area, said it has been confirmed that among the passengers of the aircraft would be devastated by the Mayor of the Municipality of Merida Rangel, Alexander Quintero, with his son eleven years, the internationalist Italo Luongo and two cousins to the deputy minister Citizen Security, Tarek Al Aissaimi.

The director of institutional relations of INAC, Joan Massel Rodriguez indicated that the relatives of the passengers have been moved to a room at the Simon Bolivar International Airport to talk with them but have not handled information on the status of the crew.

The first rescue crew departed on Thursday night from the village of Mucuchíes, one hour from the city of Merida (500 km southwest of Caracas) and not yet arrived at the scene of the accident, said Noel Marquez.

He indicated that it could take between three and three and a half hours to reach the place, "the rugged terrain."

The area recorded strong winds and temperatures of between 2 and 4 degrees Celsius, he added Marquez.

The officer reported that the Venezuelan authorities were trying to confirm Thursday night if the plane made an emergency contact to report and confirmed that early on Friday will join the team two MI17 helicopter rescue model.

The Venezuelan authorities have not provided information on the possible causes of the accident, but at the airport in Merida not discarded that the aircraft had strayed from the course by bad weather.

The Santa Barbara Airlines Company, founded in Maracaibo in 1995, had not suffered so far no accident.

In addition to local flights, the company conducts international flights to eight destinations, including Madrid, Miami, Aruba and Tenerife in the Canary Islands.

Jorge Alvarez, president of the airline Airlains Santa Barbara, said he did not think that the disappearance of the ship is due ravings technical or inability of the pilot.

"That aircraft is the end of 80 years you, the latest generation perfectly maintained, it has a maintenance program that presents the manufacturer and oversees the National Institute of Civil Aeronautics. Although it has not presented any problem that makes us think that technical problems. I can not believe that the pilot did not have jurisdiction, his rating is permanent and there is a clear proof of where they receive training simulators prove to be competent, "he said.

http://www.globovision.com/news.php?nid=79556

26 posted on 02/21/2008 9:29:30 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Old Sarge

Of course.


27 posted on 02/21/2008 9:35:13 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Pylon

Maiquetia is the federal district.


28 posted on 02/21/2008 9:46:04 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
List of passengers here.
29 posted on 02/21/2008 9:49:54 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: halosfan2002

I pray that Jesus will help and bless the people on the plane.


30 posted on 02/21/2008 9:54:35 PM PST by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: Dog Gone

Bump.


31 posted on 02/22/2008 1:12:48 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Pylon
"According to AFP, inhabitants of the Andes saw the plane crash Santa Barbara Airlines

Thanks for the update. I hope they can mount a S&R mission quickly.

Prayers for the victims and their families.

32 posted on 02/22/2008 2:54:50 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks. Prayers to the victims and their families and hopes for some survivors.. I’ve been on one of those turboprops in Merida before. They are pretty scary to fly in.


33 posted on 02/22/2008 5:34:04 AM PST by tdewey10 (Voting for McCain. We need a non-activist USSC. It's time to end the legal murder that is abortion)
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To: tdewey10

The 8:30 news break said that people in the village nearby heard a loud explosion coming from the mountain after the plane flew past them.


34 posted on 02/22/2008 8:01:48 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: halosfan2002

Alive.


35 posted on 02/22/2008 11:04:11 AM PST by YourAdHere (Buy My Book, Bradypalooza, from Amazon.Com)
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To: Pylon
Reports from Venezuela say it has been found, looks like a controlled flight into terrain, meaning the crew probably had no idea they were about to hit mountains until they did. Reports are chopper crews have been to the site, plane is 100% destroyed, no survivors.

Translated by Google

" This morning were located the wreckage of the aircraft "SANTABARBARA AIRLINES CA", which disappeared yesterday while covering the route Merida - Maiquetía, with 46 people on board. The rescue teams have already reached the area Paramo of Rabbits, instead of the casualty. There are no survivors.

In 46 persons aboard the aircraft: 43 passengers and 3 crew members. Albino The pilot and the copilot Garabito Denis Ferreira. Updated 12:00

Santa Barbara Airlines publicly expresses deep regret at the official confirmation of the casualty of the aircraft ATR-42-300 identified by the initials YV1449, covering the route Caracas-Merida

According to information provided by Civil Protection authorities Merida state, the aircraft was located six miles northeast of the city of Merida, in the area known as "The face of the Indian", hitherto unidentified survivors in the area.

All members of the family of Santa Barbara Airlines, dismayed by this unfortunate incident we join with deep sorrow to all the families of our passengers and colleagues. We have available to the families of all the logistics information, assistance, transportation, lodging and collaboration in everything necessary at this time.

http://www.noticias24.com/actualidad/?p=12205

36 posted on 02/22/2008 12:33:58 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Pylon

46 Killed in Venezuela Plane Crash

By SANDRA SIERRA – 28 minutes ago

MERIDA, Venezuela (AP) — A Venezuelan passenger plane slammed into a steep mountainside in the Andes, killing all 46 people on board, officials said Friday.

The twin-engine plane was shattered to bits upon impact, leaving only its tail largely intact and a swath of charred ground amid scrub brush at an altitude of 13,500 feet.

Search teams reached the remote spot by helicopter and rappelled down with ropes to reach the rugged crash site, said Gen. Ramon Vinas, head of the civil aviation authority. “By the way it crashed we can determine there are no survivors,” he said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hn68q8HpU5W5V0DpIGhSwYYHPsYgD8UVL7280


37 posted on 02/22/2008 3:24:27 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Pylon
among the passengers of the aircraft would be devastated by the Mayor of the Municipality of Merida Rangel, Alexander Quintero, with his son eleven years, the internationalist Italo Luongo and two cousins to the deputy minister Citizen Security, Tarek Al Aissaimi.

What do you make of this from just this morning before the crash?

ITALO LUONGO

"The Venezuelan internationalist, Italo Luongo said in Radiosucesos RCN at night, that his country's president, Hugo Chavez, already has in its possession evidence survival of Ingrid Betancourt, who announced shipped on 20 November to French agent, Nicolas Sarkozy..."

38 posted on 02/22/2008 4:27:14 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pylon

Very sad. There were several kids on board. The plane disintegrated on impact. They never had a chance.

Prayers for their souls and for their families.


39 posted on 02/22/2008 9:21:21 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: Palladin

Please be tactful and leave politics out of this.

Dennis (the co-pilot) was a roommate of mine in college)

Descanza en paz Dennis


40 posted on 02/23/2008 7:12:23 AM PST by equetefue
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To: equetefue

My condolences to you and all the bereaved.

(BTW....I didn’t say anything about politics.)


41 posted on 02/23/2008 9:59:30 AM PST by Palladin (Michelle Obama is Aunt Esther, without the Bible.)
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To: halosfan2002

Hugo the dictator, or the fat lottery winner?
(anybody notice the flight number? Now look at it backwards)


42 posted on 02/23/2008 10:24:05 PM PST by ClaudiusI
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To: halosfan2002

Anyone from the ‘opposition’ on board?


43 posted on 02/25/2008 7:01:47 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: halosfan2002

Must have been someone on board Hugo didn’t like.


44 posted on 02/27/2008 9:45:27 AM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Dog Gone
“Would all idiots please refrain from celebrating the probable deaths of some people ....”

Please point out the idiots you are referring to? I have read the whole thread up till now and have yet to read a post which celebrated the “probable deaths” of these people? What are you talking about?

45 posted on 02/27/2008 10:33:42 AM PST by monday
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To: monday

I wasn’t calling anyone an idiot on the thread. I was hoping to fire up a warning flare to prevent any celebratory posts.

I don’t know whether it worked, or whether it was unnecessary in the first place, but I don’t regret making the post.


46 posted on 02/27/2008 10:59:57 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
“I wasn’t calling anyone an idiot on the thread. I was hoping to fire up a warning flare to prevent any celebratory posts.”

Well in assuming the worst in FR’s you have assured that the only idiot on this thread is you.

47 posted on 02/27/2008 11:24:42 AM PST by monday
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To: monday

I see. I guess you’ve never seen any posts at this forum that are embarrassing or need to be removed.

And I’m sorry I bothered to answer your question. I thought you were sincere, and not just being an ass.


48 posted on 02/27/2008 11:43:11 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; monday

I’ve seen a lot of your posts, Dog Gone, and I understand them.

Perhaps Monday doesn’t know you.


49 posted on 02/27/2008 10:48:33 PM PST by Slip18
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To: Dog Gone
“I guess you’ve never seen any posts at this forum that are embarrassing or need to be removed.”

Of course I have. The problem I have with your post is, it insults all FR posters by calling them an idiot even before they behave like idiots. It’s like saying “you guys are all such idiots that I have to embarrass you in public so you don’t act like an idiot.” By claiming that we would collectively be likely celebrate the deaths of innocent Venezuelans you have embarrassed us much more than an individual poster could have by doing just that.

Incidentally, I think your warning was as pointless as it was embarrassing. I can’t imagine anyone would be stupid enough to celebrate the deaths of plane crash victims.

50 posted on 02/28/2008 7:02:54 AM PST by monday
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