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China irate as US shoots down satellite
FT ^ | 02/21/08 | Demetri Sevastopulo

Posted on 02/21/2008 9:30:23 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

China irate as US shoots down satellite

By Demetri Sevastopulo in Honolulu

Published: February 21 2008 18:28 | Last updated: February 22 2008 00:21

The US navy destroyed a decaying spy satellite that was falling to earth with potentially hazardous fuel on Thursday, prompting accusations of double standards from China.

On Wednesday afternoon in the northwest Pacific, an Aegis warship fired a missile that intercepted the satellite 247km up in space. The USS Lake Erie launched the missile shortly after Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, arrived in Hawaii en route to Australia.

Mr Gates said the operation appeared to be “very successful”. The navy was attempting both to hit the satellite before it entered the atmosphere and to destroy the fuel tank, which the Pentagon said posed a hazard to humans.

General James Cartwright, vice-chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said the military had “a high degree of confidence that we got the tank” but cautioned that it would take another two days to make a final confirmation.

Earlier, a Chinese Communist party newspaper had accused the US of double standards. Washington criticised other nations for their space ambitions, while itself trying to win a military advantage in space, the overseas edition of the People’s Daily newspaper said.

Mr Gates stressed that there had been “complete transparency” surrounding the US operation. China has asked the US to proviide data about the operation. Mr Gates said the US was prepared to share where “appropriate”.

The national reconnaissance agency launched the spy satellite in December 2006. But the military lost control of it shortly after it reached orbit, when the onboard communications systems went dead. Last month the US informed other countries that the decaying satellite was falling to earth. President George W. Bush ordered the destruction of the satellite, which was carrying a toxic fuel called hydrazine.

The Pentagon has rejected suggestions it was using the failed satellite as a pretext to conduct an anti-satellite weapons test. Last year the US criticised China for conducting an anti-satellite test, destroying an ageing weather satellite in space without providing advance notice. Both tests created debris in space, which experts warned could pose a threat to other satellites.

On Wednesday night in Hawaii, Admiral Timothy Keating, the head of US Pacific command, said the US had acted responsibly by informing other countries in advance. Speaking shortly before the navy took the shot, he added that “no one has expressed concern”.

Gen Cartwright said debris from the destroyed satellite had started falling into the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. The Pentagon on Wednesday said all the debris would re-enter the atmosphere within the next 40 days. Gen Cartwright played down suggestions the US had destroyed the satellite partly to stop other countries obtaining sensitive information about its spy satellites.

Ike Skelton, the Democratic chairman of the House of Representatives armed services committee, welcomed the successful strike but stressed that it was an “exceptional case”.

“We abandoned the pursuit of anti-satellite technology two decades ago due to concerns about the consequences of its use, and our country has no plans to renew those efforts,” he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; md; redchina; satellite; shootdown
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1 posted on 02/21/2008 9:30:27 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They are next


2 posted on 02/21/2008 9:30:46 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Who gives a rip what they think?


3 posted on 02/21/2008 9:31:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

4 posted on 02/21/2008 9:34:00 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; ...
China has only itself to blame for this development. China refused to rein on N. Korea running wild, lobbing long-range missiles and playing with nukes. Such N. Korean antics enabled support for MD to rise steadily.

If China is unhappy, they can go ahead and beat the crap out of Kim Jong-il.

5 posted on 02/21/2008 9:34:24 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: BurbankKarl

China’s just SOL!!


7 posted on 02/21/2008 9:34:53 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Eat lead toys you Commies!


8 posted on 02/21/2008 9:36:54 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Both tests created debris in space, which experts warned could pose a threat to other satellites."

Man, they just slide that lie right into their article...

US 193 debris is *not* a threat to orbiting satellites. In contrast, the debris from the Chinese anti-sat exercise will be a threat to space objects for a century or more.

10 posted on 02/21/2008 9:39:25 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Too bad they couldn’t have used the old satellite as a sort of kamikaze directed at some useful target such as Beijing, Pyongyang, or Tehran.

We could have just said “Gravity sucks doesn’t it”.


11 posted on 02/21/2008 9:39:32 PM PST by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I believe the Navy sould provide technical data to China. After all, how hard would it be to draw a round satellite on one end of an envelope, a pointy, projectile-like object at the other end, then join the two objects with a curved line representing a trajectory. Might even draw in some little dots to represent debris. Put a stamp on it and mail it.


12 posted on 02/21/2008 9:41:21 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Monkey Slap!
13 posted on 02/21/2008 9:41:31 PM PST by afortiori
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hey, Sinos......








....put some ice on it.
14 posted on 02/21/2008 9:42:15 PM PST by Bratch (“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” --- Edmund Burke)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I believe the Navy has the video on the Internet, in part, to remind despots and rogue governments of our technological weaponry, and its capabilities.

Bulls-eye!!

15 posted on 02/21/2008 9:42:21 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier ("There is only one reason to be a Christian: because it's true" – Francis Schaeffer)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
...I'm sure, the ChiCOMS, are very happy w/ the recent developments in the U.S. Elections...so far..they may have made a wise "investment" ...$hrillar=Obambi=McCranky.
16 posted on 02/21/2008 9:43:13 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: Wil H
A smile and a wink to Russia and China. We had a very thin cover story but put on one heck of a show!!!!!
Well done folks.
Now that we have clearly demonstrated that we can take down anything we want to I wonder what old dog face in Iran is going to say. About two weeks ago he was howling about the Iranians putting up a satellite.
This has the “In your face” flavor in so many ways...
Great isn’t it?
17 posted on 02/21/2008 9:45:00 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Southack

Explain that please. I think I understand your reasoning, but I want to make sure.


18 posted on 02/21/2008 9:47:26 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: kingattax

Ooh.

I like it.

“Asian Rage Boy”

LOL


19 posted on 02/21/2008 9:47:27 PM PST by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Dear China,

Go pound sand.

Hugs and Kisses,
Uncle Sam


20 posted on 02/21/2008 9:47:41 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: afortiori

“monkey slap”

Wouldn’t that make the US the monkey?


21 posted on 02/21/2008 9:48:41 PM PST by fremont_steve (Milpitas - a great place to be FROM!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China did this first, just as a show.

We did it to ostensibly keep a hazard from hurting others, while protecting our technology.

Screw China.


22 posted on 02/21/2008 9:51:13 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: fremont_steve

How do you say “Bite Me” in Chinese?


23 posted on 02/21/2008 9:51:37 PM PST by Island Girl
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To: Ronin

The debris from the Chinese satellite was in a much higher altitude. Every space faring nation will have to deal with it for many more years to come. The debris field from our satellite test was in a much lower orbit, and it should all be gone (reentered the atmosphere) in a few days.


24 posted on 02/21/2008 9:53:52 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Ronin
US 193 debris will *all* burn up in our atmosphere in the next 4 days or so.

In contrast, the debris from the Sino satellite shootdown will remain in orbit for a century or more.

25 posted on 02/21/2008 9:55:33 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey Chicoms: Better put some ice on that.


26 posted on 02/21/2008 9:57:06 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Alright, just to be fair, we can shoot down one of their satellites.


27 posted on 02/21/2008 9:58:30 PM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: Moonman62

If I heard the General correctly this morning, he said that they were showing the “low quality feed” of the missile impact...and they they were reviewing the “high quality feed” to identify if the fuel tank was indeed destroyed.

I was pretty impressed with the low quality feed footage


28 posted on 02/21/2008 9:59:30 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: TigerLikesRooster

OK, China. How about if next time, we just drop 1000 pounds of hydrazine on Beijing?


29 posted on 02/21/2008 9:59:38 PM PST by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
An oldie, but goodie:


30 posted on 02/21/2008 10:00:04 PM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: SmithL

LOL.


31 posted on 02/21/2008 10:01:06 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Southack

China is upset because we didn’t have to brag about it, we just had a job to do and we did it.


32 posted on 02/21/2008 10:01:46 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagon)
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To: Cymbaline
express delivery of export item?
33 posted on 02/21/2008 10:02:06 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No doubt Nancy Pelosi is greatly upset.


34 posted on 02/21/2008 10:02:11 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: metmom

why on earth are we holding an olympics in a communist country which murdered many peaceful democracy protesters in tinnamen square?


35 posted on 02/21/2008 10:05:16 PM PST by fabian
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To: Moonman62

That’s what I figured, and I wondered if it might invalidate the idea that this was a anti-satellite test because it wasn’t in a realistic enough orbit to be considered a valid target.


36 posted on 02/21/2008 10:08:01 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Suck it up china, we’re not interested in your ire and even less interested in your poisoned products.

Grow the frack up and stop whining when you get beaten at a dirty game you started.

37 posted on 02/21/2008 10:10:27 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is another little piece of genius where Bush accomplishes three items at once. First he destroys a satellite that has the potential to cause harm. Secondly he uses our military has the tools to protect us from outside threat. Finally he proved that not only do we have the technology, but our military is deadly accurate

Our enemies had better take notice of this little exercise. If they try to attack the U.S. they may end up having it backfire, thus causing harm to themselves instead of to us.

38 posted on 02/21/2008 10:12:32 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Get the U.S. out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of the U.S.)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
Hail the pioneers which made this possible:

Ronald Reagan and Edward Teller


39 posted on 02/21/2008 10:16:34 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
They would love to have the ability and would use it at the first opportunity.Remember treaties are only to disarm and weaken the U.S. so it will be easier to defeat the U.S.The only way to bring peace to the world is to hamstring the U.S. military and force the U.S. to get U.N. and E.U. permission before defending it's vital national interest!
40 posted on 02/21/2008 10:16:56 PM PST by bonehead4freedom (I haven't left the Republicans ,they have left me!)
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To: Wil H

LOL :)


41 posted on 02/21/2008 10:17:44 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: BurbankKarl; metmom; kingattax; xkaydet65; samadams2000; Wil H; Southack; diverteach; ...
Hail the pioneers which made this possible:

Ronald Reagan and Edward Teller


42 posted on 02/21/2008 10:23:41 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe they would be happy if we added anti-freeze to the rocket fuel.


43 posted on 02/21/2008 10:24:57 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fremont_steve
If I could find a picture of a bald eagle slapping a chinese guy, I would of posted it.

Besides, monkeys are funnier.

Or, if you want to get heavy, think of it this way. Symbolically, the leash around the neck of the monkey is the debt the US owes China. Yet the feisty monkey slaps.

44 posted on 02/21/2008 10:26:23 PM PST by afortiori
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think everyone pretty much expected to hear China belly ache.


45 posted on 02/21/2008 10:30:04 PM PST by Global2010 (Election 2008 like playin Shoots and Ladders (ages 5 and up))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

For once I agree with China. It would have been much simpler and effective to use the satellite’s last vestages of propellant to guide it into Peking’s central committee.


46 posted on 02/21/2008 10:32:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Flippin genius Teller...all those hungarians are...(except zsa zsa and eva)


47 posted on 02/21/2008 10:34:06 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Gates is an idiot for even considering sharing information with the Chinese.

I wish Hunter would get on his butt about it.


48 posted on 02/21/2008 10:36:19 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: afortiori
If I could find a picture of a bald eagle slapping a chinese guy, I would of posted it.

Besides, monkeys are funnier.


LOL. Good stuff!

LBT
......
49 posted on 02/21/2008 10:37:23 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (God Bless the Military!)
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To: Ronin

That’s a good question. I imagine the maximum altitude for an intercept is classified. But it was still a good demonstration for China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran.


50 posted on 02/21/2008 10:39:38 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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