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Son of Star Wars takes out toxic satellite in $30m space hit
Times of London ^ | 02/22/08 | Michael Evans, Defence Editor and Jane Macartney in Beijing

Posted on 02/22/2008 2:35:57 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

February 22, 2008

Son of Star Wars takes out toxic satellite in $30m space hit

Michael Evans, Defence Editor and Jane Macartney in Beijing Video need to know: expert opinion on the satellite operation

The United States provided dramatic proof of its capability to destroy an object in space when a US navy missile scored a direct hit on an American satellite falling out of control.

Missile experts said that the Standard SM-3 weapon, fired from the USS Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class cruiser, took about three minutes to reach the satellite 150 miles (240km) up in the sky, flew above it and then descended before impact at a closing speed of 22,000mph to ensure that the debris was forced down to Earth.

When the Chinese carried out an anti-satellite missile test in January last year, thousands of pieces of debris remained in space.

The Pentagon said that most of the debris would burn up in the atmosphere and officials were confident that the hit destroyed the tank full of toxic hydrazine — the intended point of impact of the missile — although confirmation that the fuel tank disintegrated will not be possible for 24 hours.

While the Pentagon celebrated its $30million (£15 million) Star Wars-style interception in space, China reacted coolly, accusing Washington of hypocrisy in its criticisms of other countries' ambitions, a reference to last year's American denunciation of the Chinese rocket attack on one of its ageing satellites.

However, the American plan to destroy the faulty 2,270kg (5,000lb) satellite — which was roughly the size of a school bus — had been broadcast by President Bush as a safety measure to ensure that it did not fall on an urban area.

Liu Jianchao, the Foreign Ministry spokesman in Beijing, said: “The Chinese side is continuing to closely follow the US action which may influence the security of outer space and may harm other countries.”

His words were modulated carefully to echo criticisms levelled at Beijing by the Bush Administration and several other countries after China took the world by surprise in January last year by using a missile to shoot down one of its old satellites.

The move, unannounced in advance, was interpreted widely as a statement of China's ability to knock out the satellites of its foes if need be.

Mr Liu said: “China further requests that the US fulfil its international obligations in earnest and promptly provide to the international community the necessary information ... so that relevant countries can take precautions.”

Duncan Lennox, editor of Jane's Strategic Weapon Systems, said that the missile had to be modified for the operation. “The SM-3 was designed to hit incoming ballistic-missile warheads travelling towards the Earth, whereas the satellite was flying in orbit at a constant height, although slowly falling. The satellite was also much bigger than the kill vehicle of a ballistic missile, which is only 23 kilos in weight and 0.61 of a metre [about 2ft] in length,” he said.

The SM-3 had previously completed 12 successful hits of dummy ballistic missiles — with two failures — in America's so-called Son of Star Wars programme, aimed at providing an anti-missile capability for the US. Authority for the hit was given by Robert Gates, the US Defence Secretary, who was en route to Hawaii.

He took a conference call during his flight with Air Force General Kevin Chilton, head of US Strategic Command, and Marine General James Cartwright, vice-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. “They told him that the conditions were ripe for an attempt, and that is when the Secretary gave the go-ahead to take the shot,” Geoff Morrell, his press spokesman, said.

The US organised hazardous materials teams, under an operation codenamed Burnt Frost, to be flown to the site of any debris landing in America or elsewhere.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: md; missiledefense; satellite; shootdown; starwars; usslakeerie
Hail the pioneers which made this possible:

Ronald Reagan and Edward Teller


1 posted on 02/22/2008 2:36:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China is all in a funk because of this. You’d think they’d understand the need for defensive weapons systems, given that they are one paranoid nation and people. But, then again, they are pissed because now they know they’ll not enjoy a cake walk when they initiate hostilities against the US. And, bet on it, for years China has been gearing up to fight the US.


2 posted on 02/22/2008 2:43:40 AM PST by ought-six
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thank you President Reagan.


3 posted on 02/22/2008 2:45:11 AM PST by PGalt
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To: ought-six
Right. Their satellites are the first to be destroyed when the real hostility breaks out.
4 posted on 02/22/2008 2:46:09 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

$30 Mil would be a drop in the bucket, compared to what the US would have had to fork out, if the satellite had come down in a populated area...of *any* country.


5 posted on 02/22/2008 2:52:25 AM PST by DGHoodini (Yippie! Clipboard Magic 4.01 works with Vista SP2 !)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oct. 28 1962


6 posted on 02/22/2008 2:53:48 AM PST by Waco
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Thank you for reminding everyone who started it all.

I donot see the main stream media remembering to thank "The Big Boss Man" for his vision and foresight, but it is good that we do.

7 posted on 02/22/2008 3:10:43 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
This would be really painful to those liberals who ridiculed and savaged Ronald Reagan and Edward Teller for pushing Strategic Defense Initiative(Star Wars.) They said it would never work. Well, it works fine and well.

The stature of these two men grows and grows with time.

8 posted on 02/22/2008 3:18:23 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Thank you Ron and GO NAVY!!!!


9 posted on 02/22/2008 3:18:59 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: DGHoodini

I tend to believe that’s the way the Dems want it. Notice how they would rather spend billions on first responders and not so much on prevention than the other way around.


10 posted on 02/22/2008 3:51:02 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
$30m space hit

Oh, I see--people are against missile defense because of the EXPENSE.

11 posted on 02/22/2008 4:12:12 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican "Suicide Voters" need to repeat: SCOTUS...SCOTUS...SCOTUS...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Worth every penny!


12 posted on 02/22/2008 4:22:14 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I stopped subscribing to Scientific American when they turned Edward Teller's obituary into a hit piece on him. Such low class.
13 posted on 02/22/2008 4:32:03 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
" flew above it and then descended before impact at a closing speed of 22,000mph to ensure that the debris was forced down to Earth."

"When the Chinese carried out an anti-satellite missile test in January last year, thousands of pieces of debris remained in space."

Now THERE'S a bit of information I wasn't aware of .... go above and come down to force debris into the atmosphere to burn up.

WE are the big dogs, y'all.

14 posted on 02/22/2008 4:33:38 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ought-six
We have surprises for them that will NEVER even be talked about on FR. The American people can no longer be trusted to know their own strength. Half of this Nation would sell out for a debt payoff.

LLS

15 posted on 02/22/2008 4:44:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Son of Star Wars takes out toxic satellite in $30m space hit

I always wonder where they get these huge costs for military operations. Do they include the personnel and operating costs of the units involved? Costs that would be paid no matter what they were doing. Or is the SM-3 $30 million a copy?

16 posted on 02/22/2008 5:01:02 AM PST by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: knarf

Very cool, I kept wondering if the impact/explosion would actually force pieces further out and hang there in orbit. It crossed my mind that it needed to be hit form the other side but doubted it could be done.

Did anyone hear what ship shot it down?


17 posted on 02/22/2008 5:15:24 AM PST by blueheron2 (Half a loaf is better than none.)
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To: blueheron2

OOPS, USS Lake Erie, my bad.


18 posted on 02/22/2008 5:17:56 AM PST by blueheron2 (Half a loaf is better than none.)
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To: blueheron2
Did anyone hear what ship shot it down?

I think I remember reading it was the Lake Erie.
19 posted on 02/22/2008 5:18:11 AM PST by plsvn
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wish it WAS painful for the liberals who ridiculed strategic missile defense. It should be. But it’s not.

Liberals don’t have any honor, nor any integrity, which would cause them pain if they were honest about this situation. And Carl Levin is STILL doing his worst to weaken our armed forces, as he has been since RR’s days. And tell the editors at the NYT to go piss up a rope while you’re at it.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 5:20:09 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: blueheron2

the USS Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class cruiser,


21 posted on 02/22/2008 5:24:52 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I sent the following to Sen. Carl Levin.

“Senator,

Given the recent demonstration by the USS Lake Erie and her Aegis system, are you finally going to abandon your demonstrably false position on strategic missile defense? You’ve been proven wrong (again) and Ronald Reagan has been proven right (again). Give. It. Up. Sir.

Events have passed you by. Americans have not forgotten your unprincipled commitment weakening America’s defense, even if you manage to get yourself re-elected in Michigan through the perks of incumbency and pork-barrel politics.”

http://www.senate.gov/~levin/contact/index.cfm


22 posted on 02/22/2008 5:31:54 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

How do they do that - hitting a piece of fast-moving space junk 150 miles away with a tiny missle?

When I throw a useless computer out the window from my office and try to hit the garbage can 20 feet away, I always miss.

Guess that’s why I wasn’t in the Naval ship gunnery, or whatever it’s called.


23 posted on 02/22/2008 5:33:37 AM PST by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: RKV

Nicely done.


24 posted on 02/22/2008 6:27:44 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Missile experts said that the Standard SM-3 weapon, fired from the USS Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class cruiser, took about three minutes to reach the satellite 150 miles (240km) up in the sky, flew above it and then descended before impact at a closing speed of 22,000mph to ensure that the debris was forced down to Earth.

That's a capability I didn't know we had, and is quite impressive. It used to be that all these kill vehicles could do was get in the way.

25 posted on 02/22/2008 6:35:15 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This would be really painful to those liberals who ridiculed and savaged Ronald Reagan and Edward Teller for pushing Strategic Defense Initiative(Star Wars.) They said it would never work. Well, it works fine and well.

There were many derisive raspberries on a thread I followed on a football forum I belong to. Before the launch. The moonbats have been mysteriously absent from that thread since the launch.

Funny thing, most of them seem to think W started the missile defense program. To his credit, he did deploy it.

26 posted on 02/22/2008 6:44:54 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: DGHoodini

Compare what we can do to what the Russians did when the Mir Space Toilet fell out of the sky.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 6:45:12 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: sergeantdave

Shaq can’t hit a free throw and he’s a millionaire.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 6:47:59 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ModelBreaker
most of them seem to think W started the missile defense program.

I wouldn't be surprised if they thought Ronald Reagan was U.S. President before WWII.

29 posted on 02/22/2008 7:04:49 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: RKV

And because they have no honor or integrity, because they hold nothing dear beyond their own gratification and immediate sense of safety...they have now way to feel shame.


30 posted on 02/22/2008 7:05:34 AM PST by DGHoodini (Yippie! Clipboard Magic 4.01 works with Vista SP2 !)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I remember how the Rats excoriated President Reagan about his Star Wars dream,
31 posted on 02/22/2008 7:39:04 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: RKV

Beautiful. Just beautiful. Let us know if you get a reply (when pigs fly).


32 posted on 02/22/2008 9:05:00 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: CPOSharky

There is cost
(From a 2006 article )
Raytheon Company (NYSE:RTN) has been awarded a contract with a total value of $266 million to build, test and deliver Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) rounds to the Missile Defense Agency to meet the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense deployment requirements. Initial funding of $168 million has been issued.

The contract calls for SM-3 Block IA missiles to be produced for the United States and Japan and for flight test support, engineering activity, system upgrades and continued cooperative research and development work with Japan.

Other sources place the unit cost of a SM-3 at ‘about’ 10M a pop.

and then, there is COST

“Military analyst John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, said the success of the missile tests bodes well, but it’s unclear whether the government will buy enough missiles to form a reliable shield.

“The real question isn’t ’How well is it doing?’ The question is, ’Am I still worried about North Korea’s nuclear missiles?’ “ Pike said


33 posted on 02/22/2008 9:33:47 AM PST by ASOC (Tagline free for months and still going (Oh, wait........))
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To: Gondring
I stopped subscribing to Scientific American when they turned Edward Teller's obituary into a hit piece on him. Such low class.

It is sad. Scientific American, a once respectable publication, has become a liberal "junk science" rag.
IMHO

Unfortunately, the same can be said for many "once respectable" publications.

34 posted on 02/22/2008 9:42:07 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: massgopguy

Humorous aspect of eyes going bad, I read that as Mr. Space Toilet!


35 posted on 02/22/2008 10:14:14 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
descended before impact at a closing speed of 22,000mph to ensure that the debris was forced down to Earth.

Galileo would be astounded that after 300 years so many still don't get the basics of physics.

36 posted on 02/22/2008 10:17:50 AM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Great picture.

I met Edward Teller in college. He was a very interesting man.


37 posted on 02/22/2008 10:20:45 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: TigerLikesRooster

WE...FREAKING...ROCK!!!

Kinetic kill is the shiznitz...the impact at such high velocity releases over ten times the energy of an equivalent mass of TNT. An esimated 130 megajoules of kinetic energy was released upon impact with the satellite...that’s about 96 MILLION FOOT POUNDS! Sucks to be that satellite.

Hey, China, guess what? WE STILL RULE THE SKIES!!!

I’ve been so pumped about this the past couple of days. It is so sweet beyond words. GO NAVY!!!


38 posted on 02/22/2008 11:21:46 PM PST by TampaDude (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.)
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Re: Son of Star Wars takes out toxic satellite in $30m space hit

Gadzooks! The sumbitches at the Times of London... mostly got it right!

39 posted on 02/22/2008 11:36:11 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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