Posted on 02/22/2008 6:20:46 AM PST by HD1200
Tuned into the debate last night and this idiot Obama proved again does not have a clue.
He made the statement that US platoons are going short manned to Afganistan because a portion of them are being sent to Iraq. Then he said our soldiers in Afganistan are so poorly equipped they are using captured Taliban munitions!
I can guarantee you if this was the case the media would have been all over it months or years ago. Who is going to challenge him on this?
...where’d Ears get his info, Murtha?
General Obama? Give me a break.
This turd cannot get the White House.
But but I thought that tapdancer Obama wants all the troops removed from the ME???
What better way than to stop giving them weapons.
Is this guy for real - and running for President?
Gimme a break.
Horses?
I’m sure some of our forces are using Taliban weapons - specifically, Special Warfare types. When you use the same weapon as your enemy, you can’t be identified by the report of your weapon.
This does not change the fact that Barack Obama is an idiot.
An ‘empty suit’ beneath an empty head!
“This turd cannot get the White House.”
But he will thanks to those who will dig in their heels and sit out election day.
Obama’s the hero of the WHINOs on FR.
One of the goals of war is to capture the enemies supplies, munitions. This guy is an idiot.
Apparently neither Obama or his wife have any advisers to keep them from saying something stupid when they deviate from the script.
His cultish followers will adopt as more gospel from the Obamamessiah.
No big McCain fan here......but no question our troops would be better served with McCain as Commander In chief than nitwits Obama or Clinton.
Barack has spent hours studying military tactics using Battleship, Stratego and Risk.
Has Obama visited injured vets, stateside, yet?
No, he wants to withdraw from the middle east,
hold summits with jihadists,
meet with Imanutjob,
and invade our only Islamic “ally” in the war on terror.
The reason that the left is so adamant about Afghanistan/Pakistan and “getting Bin Ladin” is that they are still in the “prosecute the criminal” mindset instead of “worldwide terror war” mindset.
Once we “get Bin Ladin”, they’ll call it “even” and “justice served” for 9/11 and go back to the 9/10 mindset where their biggest concern was validating their narcissist/hedonist lifestyles.
He has an office near John Kerry. Does that count?
>> If some Spec Ops guys are occasionally using an AK, it is because they want to, not because they have to.
That’s what I recall reading. Some troops choose AK-47 because they think it’s more jam-resistant or something. (I’m not a gun-head so I may not have it right in the details.)
But... the operative word is, CHOOSE to use the weapon.
If CNN were really journalists, THEY would call the candidates on this crapola. But they’re not journalists.
“Barack has spent hours studying military tactics using Battleship, Stratego and Risk”.
He wasn’t able to figure those games out so he sticks to playing Candy Land and Chutes and Ladders.
If you liked George McGovern, you’ll love Barack Obama.
I wonder how well the wounded Soldiers would receive such a visit?
From The Art of War:
8. The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy,
neither are his supply-wagons loaded more than twice.
9. Bring war material with you from home, but forage
on the enemy. Thus the army will have food enough
for its needs.
Reminds me of those BS stories about Moms in sewing circles making body amour for sons in the military who were going without. These people haven’t a clue
Two God damned fools.
I agree with you with special forces BUT Obama was clearly talking about regular soldiers having to scrounge from captured Taliban munitions because the US military is so “strained” from Iraq.
What, like these guys? 
Obama really should shut up about military and counter insurgency issues since it's obvious he does NOT know what's he's talking about. U.S. Spec Ops traditionally arm themselves with enemy equipment and weapons while working behind the lines since it is easier to procure resupply and ammo that way. What a moron!
If our troops happen to find or capture Taliban equipment, and it is useful in any way, they should use it. It’s sort of like getting free money from the government, a concept that Obomba should be able to understand.
Is that dope on dope?
I remember a cousin of mine, real anti Bush SR, who was just besides herself over the fact we were sending Soldiers to Iraq in 1991 WITHOUT GAS MASKS!
She was believing everything she was being told from the left wing.
Yes, some left without gas masks, only to pick them up from prepositioned supplies in Kuwait...
It’s a well known fact that AK’s are much more resilient and less prone to jamming and require less tender loving care than U.S. M-4s and M-16s
One major difference was McGovern was a vet.
Your word “choose” makes no sense to a leftist except when used to justify infanticide.
To the left, anything that isn’t required is prohibited, and all dictates and decisions come from a small group or single individual at the top of the authority structure.
A. Use a weapon which says to all within both visual and hearing range "Hey, I'm an American, how you doing?", or
B. Use a weapon which looks and sounds like the same weapon the local bad guys use?
SF operators are not stupid. Or politicians.
I agree with your statement; make use of what you can BUT
Obama was CLEARLY making a point that our troops were SCAVAGING from captured Taliban munitions because our military is so strained from Iraq. In other words; our sons & daughters are not being provided with the proper equipment to protect themselves and win the fight - typical left wing blow in the wind statements that come up time and again.
True. I was vaguely thinking that Obama had perhaps heard that SW types were using captured Taliban weapons, and completely misunderstood both the extent and the reason. More likely, though, he’s just dangerously ignorant.
Yep, we sure want him to take control.
Obama is a "vet", too; he treats Rats.
Are there any transcripts available of last night’s debate?
True but ya' know what? The sheople drooling like Pavlov's mutts everytime he wiggles his ears are immune to facts.
I caught some Ombama and he comes off with "half of Americans are homeless". Now I'm sure that there are many Amerincas that do not have first hand experience of this or any war but we all can see that our streets are for the mostly free and not clogged with homeless... not counting hippie infestations
Where is the outrage from the Pentagon? Elected officials? Talk radio? John McLame?
He gets a pass on making things up as he goes along.
re: AK 47’s; I disagree and I think the majority would say the M16 is superior to the AK47:
AK-47 Pros & Cons
Pros
The AK-47 is a very effective weapon with great power
It has a very high rate of fire
comes at a very reasonable price.
simple to operate, clean, and repair
reliable
Cons
Very loud noise
it’s heavy
not as accurate as most military rifles
any optics require special adapters
Many people don’t like the AK safety mechanism
M-16 Pros & Cons
Pros
It’s lighter,
more accurate,
more versatile,
allow numerous modifications to be made
such as mounting various uppers
Cons
The 5.56 ammunition
reliable with proper maintenance
Exactly...spot on. Spec Ops will use the enemy's weapons so that they cannot be identified when firing the weapon.
But, when it does occur, they do this because that is their desire, not because there is any kind of shortage or ill equipping going on.
Obama, again, has shown himself at best to be wholly ignorant...and at worst to be an abject liar who will twist the facts to his own gain.
re: transcripts.
Have to start looking for them.
Sadly, the Dims in the audience believed every word.
So anyone who thinks John McCain doesn't deserve to be supported because of his democrat like actions for the past 8 years is a a Obama supporter.
I will vote for John McCain only because the parents of soldiers here have asked for that. If it was up to me I'd live through a democrat for 4 years in order to teach the republican party that when you can't tell the difference between them and democrats us conservatives are going to find another party.
I would submit that John McCain will get more soldiers killed in the next 4 years than either of the democrats. I'm afraid he would be much more likely to start another war because he's having a bad day. Yes they will bring the troops home but maybe it is time to kick the Iraqis out of the nest. And if the democrat president does this and Iraq turns into a failure they won't be able to blame it on "the failed policies of the Bush administration".
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