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A Lead On The Ark Of The Covenant
Time Magazine ^ | 2-21-2008 | DAVID VAN BIEMA

Posted on 02/22/2008 2:35:00 PM PST by blam

A Lead on the Ark of the Covenant

Thursday, Feb. 21, 2008
By DAVID VAN BIEMA

The Ark of the Covenant is carried into the Temple

When last we saw the lost Ark of the Covenant in action, it had been dug up by Indiana Jones in Egypt and ark-napped by Nazis, whom the Ark proceeded to incinerate amidst a tempest of terrifying apparitions. But according to Tudor Parfitt, a real life scholar-adventurer, Raiders of the Lost Ark had it wrong, and the Ark is actually nowhere near Egypt. In fact, Parfitt claims he has traced it (or a replacement container for the original Ark), to a dusty bottom shelf in a museum in Harare, Zimbabwe.

As Indiana Jones's creators understood, the Ark is one of the Bible's holiest objects, and also one of its most maddening McGuffins. A wooden box, roughly 4 ft. x 2 ft. x 2.5 ft., perhaps gold-plated and carried on poles inserted into rings, it appears in the Good Book variously as the container for the Ten Commandments (Exodus 25:16: "and thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee"); the very locus of God's earthly presence; and as a divine flamethrower that burns obstacles and also crisps some careless Israelites. It is too holy to be placed on the ground or touched by any but the elect. It circles Jericho behind the trumpets to bring the walls tumbling down. The Bible last places the Ark in Solomon's temple, which Babylonians destroyed in 586 BC. Scholars debate its current locale (if any): under the Sphinx? Beneath Jerusalem's Temple Mount (or, to Muslims, the Noble Sanctuary)? In France? Near London's Temple tube station?

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1 posted on 02/22/2008 2:35:02 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 02/22/2008 2:36:34 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

“Top men, I say.”


3 posted on 02/22/2008 2:38:37 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If straw man Obama hadn't been so active, Dorothy's water toss wouldn't have made Hillary melt down.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

They'll never find that thing.

4 posted on 02/22/2008 2:38:38 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: blam

There is word (an archaeologist I heard on Coast to Coast with George Noory so take it for what it’s worth) that Israeli officials know where the Ark is, I believe he said buried beneath the Temple Mount, they are reluctant to move on it because of the muslim presence in the area.


5 posted on 02/22/2008 2:42:52 PM PST by infidel29 (I don't want anybody's "baby daddy" taking up residence in the White House)
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To: blam
I heard a pastor say once that the Ark is nowhere on Earth, it could quite possibly be in Heaven. Reason being is because if the Ark was still here, people would worship it as opposed to worshiping God....which would be idolatry.
6 posted on 02/22/2008 2:45:44 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: scottdeus12
which would be idolatry.

Or Mecca.

7 posted on 02/22/2008 2:47:30 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: JennysCool

behind the ‘silver toilet seat’ ??


8 posted on 02/22/2008 2:49:53 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: scottdeus12
I heard a pastor say once that the Ark is nowhere on Earth, it could quite possibly be in Heaven. Reason being is because if the Ark was still here, people would worship it as opposed to worshiping God....which would be idolatry.

Interesting logic, but it seems more likely it would have simply been destroyed. That's what happened to the Temple, after all.

9 posted on 02/22/2008 2:50:51 PM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: scottdeus12

I can’t see that. God isn’t going to give it and then take it away because of idol worship.


10 posted on 02/22/2008 2:56:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: blam
IMHO, with absolutely no evidence to support, I bet it was melted down by the Assyrians, Babylonians, or Romans and the gold ended up in hundreds of other objects.
11 posted on 02/22/2008 2:57:24 PM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: blam

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that the bible describes the Ark very accurately. How can it be round like a drum?


12 posted on 02/22/2008 2:57:43 PM PST by Shortwave (Islamofascism is NOT America's greatest enemy, our apathy is.)
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To: martin_fierro
it’s right behind the 100mpg carburetor
13 posted on 02/22/2008 2:58:01 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: blam

That painting is NOTHING at all like the biblical description of the ark of the covenant. Somebody didn’t bother reading the bible before they started painting.


14 posted on 02/22/2008 2:58:04 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: blam
Most likely Nebudchadnezzar of Babylon had it destroyed...melted for the gold.

He considered it of no spiritual value.

15 posted on 02/22/2008 3:00:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Somebody didn’t bother reading the bible before they started painting.

Probably painted at a time when few were literate and the church taught in Latin only. Details were often lost to the general public.

16 posted on 02/22/2008 3:00:58 PM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That painting is NOTHING at all like the biblical description of the ark of the covenant. Somebody didn’t bother reading the bible before they started painting.

This is Time Magazine. Of course the artist (or editor) didn't read the Bible first.
17 posted on 02/22/2008 3:01:09 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: blam

I thought it was still in Ethiopia.


18 posted on 02/22/2008 3:02:22 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: martin_fierro

I heard Hillary has hired agents in the CIA to find the spear of invincibility.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 3:02:47 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: infidel29

IF Israel is so intimidated by Islam that they are afraid to recover the Ark (which I really doubt) then they are truly lost.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 3:03:22 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Blood of Tyrants; blam

— “That painting is NOTHING at all like the biblical description of the ark of the covenant.” —

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2008/0802/ark_covenant_0215.jpg

Don’t you trust Time as a reference?


21 posted on 02/22/2008 3:03:26 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If straw man Obama hadn't been so active, Dorothy's water toss wouldn't have made Hillary melt down.)
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To: blam

The Ark is here! An incredible read!

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/index.htm


22 posted on 02/22/2008 3:03:52 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: blam
"All pay heed! The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen ...Oy! ten, ten commandments for all to obey!" - Moses, History of the World Part 1
23 posted on 02/22/2008 3:03:59 PM PST by Monitor ("...I love my country more than I hate John McCain..." - Kim du Toit)
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To: blam

The Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Ethiopia claims they have it. Of course now that we have technology to test authenticity, they are keeping it secreted away from all but one monk.


24 posted on 02/22/2008 3:04:13 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: scottdeus12
I heard a pastor say once that the Ark is nowhere on Earth, it could quite possibly be in Heaven.

John saw the Ark in heaven in Revelations, Chapter 12, I think. It appears right before the woman clothed with the sun and with the crown of stars.

25 posted on 02/22/2008 3:07:56 PM PST by lawdave
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To: SlapHappyPappy

There’s something about the Ark’s recovery that ties into the end of days prophecy from what I remember. I think they’re avoiding enticing Iran’s whacko President for the time being.


26 posted on 02/22/2008 3:10:26 PM PST by infidel29 (I don't want anybody's "baby daddy" taking up residence in the White House)
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To: blam

The ark may be the single most fascinating object described in ancient/pre-classical times. Many of the powers attributed to it read like a bronze age people attempting to describe advanced technology/power.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 3:11:01 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: blam
I suggest that we look to much, much older cultures for this ark.
28 posted on 02/22/2008 3:18:59 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: xjcsa

The relics in the temple were expressly referenced in Daniel (?) -— the “writing on the wall episode” where the Babylonian King is using the gold/silver implements for a dinner party.

I would assume he got the while lot, including the Ark itself.

The Ark, IMHO, has been stripped of its gold, and now resides in people’s gold filings and jewelry around the world -— like most things gold -— they keep getting melted, combined and reused.

The real treasure — the tablets -— were cast aside and trod underfoot. I would not be suprised to find them used as bricks in some stone wall somewhere.


29 posted on 02/22/2008 3:23:33 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Seen lots of cherubim, have you?

J/k


30 posted on 02/22/2008 3:24:41 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: blam
Nonsense...everybody knows that the ark is in Aksum, Ethiopia.

Keepers of the Lost Ark?

31 posted on 02/22/2008 3:29:30 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: infidel29

As a theologian, the importance of the Ark is that if it is found it would be cause to rebuild the Temple on the Mount for its housing. That would precipitate events that would start the clock ticking toward the Apocalypse and Armageddon.

That is one interpretation. There are others. You decide.

by a M.Div grad


32 posted on 02/22/2008 3:35:39 PM PST by pankot
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To: pankot
That would precipitate events that would start the clock ticking toward the Apocalypse and Armageddon.

It could destroy the space time continuum unraveling the very fabric of the universe. But that would be a worst case scenario.

33 posted on 02/22/2008 3:52:03 PM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I can’t see that. God isn’t going to give it and then take it away because of idol worship.

He did something similar with the bronze snake mentioned in Numbers 21:8-9

It had to be destroyed because the Israelites started worshipping it.

34 posted on 02/22/2008 3:53:57 PM PST by JOAT
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To: blam
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i thought it was in Ethiopia...
35 posted on 02/22/2008 3:54:22 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: pankot
That would precipitate events that would start the clock ticking toward the Apocalypse and Armageddon.

This is a more than adequate explanation.

When pondering theology, ask a theologian. My mother's cousin teaches at the Catholic University in Washington after studying for 4(?) years at the Vatican. Unfortunately I have no way of contacting him.

36 posted on 02/22/2008 3:56:22 PM PST by infidel29 (I don't want anybody's "baby daddy" taking up residence in the White House)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Image hosted by Photobucket.com didn't see your post... thankx for the link.
37 posted on 02/22/2008 4:00:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: JOAT
He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, just as his father David had done. 4 He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)

2 Kings 18:3-4

38 posted on 02/22/2008 4:03:50 PM PST by JOAT
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To: mnehrling

I’m not sure how much gold we’re talking about. The Ark was made out of wood which was covered with gold.


39 posted on 02/22/2008 4:04:24 PM PST by MarDav
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To: Shortwave
You're right, the Bible did describe in exact detail how to build the Ark. Which apparently some people have copied to the letter with some rather startling results.

Perhaps the most stunning example of an oopart may be one of history's most powerful and enigmatic symbols. The Ark of the Covenant, designed in accordance with God's (very specific) instructions to transport the Ten Commandments, came with strong warnings. It was to be approached only at certain times, by certain peoples (the Levite priests, and handled in very specific ways. Failure to do so could result in highly fatal eruptions of power that destroyed unwary Israelites as often as it routed enemy armies and aided in sieges. Intrigued by the dry and almost technical nature of the Bible's description of building the ark, a number of individuals (most notably author Richard Andrews, in a 1999 issue of the Daily Mail) have become convinced that the Ark is in actuality a technological artifact -- a capacitor, to be specific, capable of collecting and storing energy. This not only explains the burns and ill effects suffered by those who get to close or handle it inexpertly, but also the nature of many of the materials used in its construction (gold to serve as a conductor, acacia wood to serve as an insulator).

"If the Israelites had set out to construct a primitive accumulator, they could hardly have picked a better design than the Ark," said Andrews in his article. Electrical prodigy Nikola Tesla apparently agreed, allegedly saying in 'Wall of Light', a book co-written with Arthur Matthews, and published in 1940, "Moses was undoubtedly a practical and skillful electrician far in advance of his time. The Bible describes precisely, and minutely, arrangements constituting a machine in which electricity was generated by friction of air against silk curtains, and stored in a box constructed like a condenser."

I had read something about this way back. Makes sense really. A perfect anti-theft device for the tablets.

40 posted on 02/22/2008 4:09:38 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

Yawn...WHO CARES!?!? The Ark of the Covenant is about as relevant as a empty box of Camel Lites. The only thing that matters is that we are headed towards slavery under a New World Order.


41 posted on 02/22/2008 4:13:49 PM PST by Chucktallica101 (Cheer up! All the people you hate will eventually die.)
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To: khnyny
This is Time Magazine. Of course the artist (or editor) didn't read the Bible first.

Hey, we should consider it good that they didn't think the Ark of the Covenant was a boat. ;)

42 posted on 02/22/2008 4:16:44 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: blam
Yes the Nazis actually did capture and smuggle back to Germany the Ark of the covenant.It really WAS a UFO engine and with the technology they learnt ,they built a Haunebu.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ufo_aleman/esp_ufoaleman_3.htm
All the biblical references refer to people being burnt to a crisp from merely touching it.But the nazis found a way to use it.There was only one and that is why the nazis built only one Haunebu.They lacked the time and technology to build more engines because they deemed it too dangerous to study fully.After hearing of Hitlers suicide ,they realised the end was near and destroyed everything connected with the project.
Perhaps the engine is buried somewhere in Germany.

43 posted on 02/22/2008 4:21:40 PM PST by cavador (I am NOT the boy who cried WOLF!)
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To: AFreeBird
For a minute there I thought you were going to cite Chariot of the Gods? by Erich von Daniken as your unimpeachable source.
44 posted on 02/22/2008 4:23:02 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: All

Actually, the Ark may be in my mother-in-law’s purse. Everything else that gets lost seems to end up there.


45 posted on 02/22/2008 4:27:36 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: what's up; blam

The gold and silver items from the Temple treasury were actually preserved by Nebuchadnezzer after 586 BC.

They were given to the folks who were allowed by Darius and Cyrus to go back to Jerusalem starting in 536 BC. In Daniel chapter 5, you see, in the famous chapter of the handwriting on the wall, an expression we use today, that the Temple gold implements were being used by the Babylonian king on the night his empire was taken over by the Medes and the Persians. The phrase for knees knocking together from fear also comes from this chapter.

The first deportation to Babylon of the Jews took place in 606 BC. Daniel was in that group as a teenager. As a man of 86 years old, he reminded God of the prohecy that Israel would be in Babylon for 70 years. Sure enough, God moved the Persian rulers who took over Babylon to let the Jews return to Jerusalem. As a conquered people they were not allowed to go back to their homeland and reestablish themselves as a nation.

From 536 BC the Jews rebuilt a damaged Temple, but not to its former glory as Solomon built it about 1000 BC. Herod the Great expanded the Temple prior to Christ’s birth, and the Romans are the ones who tore the Temple apart in 70 AD in fury over the rebellion of the Jews, which they put down without mercy. Jesus prophesied that this would happen—that not one stone would remain upon another fromt he Temple. Inded today, the Wailing Wall is the only remnat of the retaining wall under the Temple, as none of the original strucure has survived. In its day, the Temple of Herod was an enormous structure, not unlike the scale of the monumental buildings in Washington, DC today.

After 586 BC, we have no information as to what happened to the Ark of the Covenant. It was located in the Holy of Holies, a room that only the Chief Priest could enter, and then, only once a year. He sprinkled the blood from a spotless lamb unto the Ark. The Ark was flanked by two staues of Cherubim, a winged animal. The Chief Priest had a rope tied to his ankle and had a bell. If he died while in the Holy of Holies, then the other priests could retrieve the body by pulling it out.

Between the interior of the Temple and the Holy of Holies was a floor to ceiling cloth veil, with gold lined doors. When the doors opened, floor to ceiling, the Veil was revealed. This is the Veil that was torn from top to bottom by God when Christ died on the Cross to signify that man could come to God through Christ.

I like to think that the Ark is below the Temple somewhere, or hidden in a cave below Jerusalem somewhere. It was so sacred to the Jews that I strongly believe they took steps to hide it knowing about the Babylonian invasion.

One theory is that it is hidden below Golgotha, where the Crucifixion took place, and that Christ’s blood dripped down through the ground and fell on the hidden Ark. Sounds like a cool theory, but we will not know this side of heaven.

The Ark also contained the stone tablets that were given to Moses with the Ten Commandments, as well as other items important to the Jews wandering in the desert after they left Egypt before they got to the Promised Land.

The Ark was so holy that a man could not touch it without dying instantly. God gave very strict instructions about how it was to be carried and who could do the carrying(with poles so that no human touched it.

A fascinating subject, no doubt.


46 posted on 02/22/2008 4:28:42 PM PST by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: blam
What would such a wonder look like in our postmodern world? What might it do?

If it fell into the wrong hands, such as the wondrous hands of Barak Obama, it would become the "Holy Harbinger of Change"......

47 posted on 02/22/2008 4:30:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: crazyhorse691
No, I actually read it in a magazine some time back. Late 80's early nineties I think (does not imply that was or was not when it was built, just an article on the endeavor). It was supposedly tested at some university and discovered, or measured, the electrical properties generated.

The quote provided was what I could find that came close to what I'd read. IIRC

48 posted on 02/22/2008 4:41:40 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: exit82
I like to think that the Ark is below the Temple somewhere, or hidden in a cave below Jerusalem somewhere

2 Kings 24:13 "As the Lord had declared, Nebuchadnezzar removed all the treasures from the temple of the Lord..."

2 Chron 36:18 "He (Nebuchadnezzar) carried to Babylon all the articles from the temple of God, both large and small, and the treasures of the Lord's temple..."

Both scriptures seem to indicate that the Ark was most likely taken and not hidden since both writers emphasize that "all" treasures were taken.

Very interesting point you make about he goblets, etc. Seemingly the Ark would have been around at this time as well.

49 posted on 02/22/2008 4:46:47 PM PST by what's up
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To: AFreeBird
Image hosted by Photobucket.com so... to those who knew how, they could ground/short out the Box to open it and then when they closed it it would recharge itself???
50 posted on 02/22/2008 4:47:02 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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