Skip to comments.Hillary Gives Up!
Posted on 02/22/2008 5:46:14 PM PST by DWPittelli
Hillary Clinton hasn't publicly conceded the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, of course. But I have seen a significant new piece of evidence indicating that she has given up, that her actions show she is no longer acting primarily to win the election, but rather to position herself better if she loses. (Psychologically, her closing speech last night has been widely discussed as possibly hinting at the same thing.)
What's the news? She has sent out invitations to Massachusetts supporters that she will be in Boston this Sunday (Feb 24), holding a fundraiser dinner (a $5,000 per table Conversation with Hillary that is In Support of Hillary Clinton for President). Now she could hold a fundraiser just as easily in a state that still has a primary to come. But she is instead in Massachusetts because whatever differential in cash she can get by being in Boston instead of in Texas or Ohio (or Rhode Island, where she will be earlier in the day) more than outweighs the advantage she could get in votes by showing up in a still-relevant state.
The other interpretation of this news is that she's so broke that she must maximize income even at the cost of not being in relevant states with upcoming primaries. This is different, but almost as good news for Hillary's opponents to right and left and almost as disheartening to her supporters. It is at least as telling on this score as the news that she has recently loaned her campaign $5 million of her "personal" money.
Most likely, both things are true: Hillary is now more interested in getting her $5 million back than she is in maximizing her chances of winning. She is no longer fighting for the nomination.
I’m not voting for any of them in the general election. The handwriting is on the wall and it shows McCain getting about half the votes Hillary is losing with.
In my opinion, voting for a losing McCain is only encouraging the GOP further leftward so I’m writing my conservative choice in come November.
I think you are reading too much into this...
Let’s see if she can fill the tables.
Ditto...no more taking what the RINO-RNC tells us is all we can have....as a candidate.
Conservatives who support RINO's do NOTHING to get the message out to the RNC.
IF the Democrat wins the election, it's not because the Republican Conservative voters let the Party down, it's because the Party let the Conservative voters down, period.
Last nite she was begging for the VP slot. Watch it, Barry.
I think she was too.
she is broke and of game time.
she is broke and of game time.
Her “when” she becomes president has become “If” she becomes president.
President or vice president doesn’t really matter.The difference is only a matter of timing.
What if nobody comes?
On the other hand, Obama is an unknown. Rush called him a “Magical Mystery.” Which is a handy strategy to a point, until he has to commit himself one way or the other on the issues.
Will be interesting to see the post-primary debates. When McCain will try to look conservative and Obama will have to defend himself under heavy scrutiny.
I just want to watch Hillary slither away under some rocks.
He is a fool if he picks Hillary as his VP.
I don’t think that he will but stranger things have happened.
If he does he won’t be around 3 months after he is sworn in.
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t support John McCain from your standpoint as a liberal. McCain is conservative on many issues but also quite independent and even liberal on some issues. At least Mccain has done something in his life unlike Obama or Hillary.
I know what you’re sayin”
You would think that after the Marxist pr*cks at the NYT dumped on McCain, he would’ve come out and dumped all over the purse-carrying ***holes at that rat newspaper.
If I were McCain, I might have said something like: “Screw these communist ***holes at the Times. That’s all they are - goosestepping pr*cks. They have a problem with me, meet me and my .357 magnum in the parking lot. “
Of course I’m not running for president, so I don’t need to hold my tongue.....
I think Obama’s lack of a record is an asset to him.
My reading of it is that the clintons will hold a fundraiser anywhere there is money.
She should start an "Hillary Clinton Defense Fund", a sure winner for an infusion of ChiCom cash.
I am not a liberal. I am a classical liberal, which would be closer to a small “l” libertarian than anything else. I believe in a minimal federal government whose budget primarily consists of military defense and a criminal justice system (for those few crimes which are truly federal because they take place in more than one state, or are against a federal institution or property). I do not have a problem with such things as public roads and public funding of primary and secondary education, although I see little scope for the federal government in either.
But eventually he is going to have to show his hand. And decisively, too. Can’t be a flip-flopper.
And I am not a rank and file GOP Republican. I can think for myself.
***IF the Democrat wins the election, it’s not because the Republican Conservative voters let the Party down, it’s because the Party let the Conservative voters down, period.***
I hope you like socialized medicine.
I keep hearing that there are too many Democrats out there who do not want her. Then again I heard that in 2000 in NY. I grew up in the same neighborhood as Chuck Schumer and Ruth Bader Ginsberg and I heard then from some of my former classmates that no one wanted Hillary and yet she won. I’ll only count her out after the DNC Convention.
What self serving BS. If the Republicans would lose this election because the some conservatives sat out the election it's a loss for both Republicans and the conservatives who showed themselves unwilling to vote for anyone other than who they think is best. Everyone loses.
On the other hand if McCain wins while some spoiled children with hold their votes then the spoiled children lose big.
Either way those who would sit the election out lose all right to call themselves the base of the party.
A real base wouldn't act so spoiled.
You are out of your mind. The Clinton's will be fighting for the 2008 nomination until the last vote is counted. The day that they lose the 2008 nomination will be the 1st day they begin fighting for the 2012 nomination. That means Barrack Obama's biggest challenge isn't John McLame, it's the Clinton's who will make sure Obama suffers the same fate as McGovern.
Many of us were angry with Bush “one” and wanted to show our anger by voting for Ross Perot. Perot pulled out of course. However, our anger lost the pres election to Clinton.
However, Republicans won control of Congress shortly after and did many, many great things.
Unfortunately, they lost their way a few years later.
You win some, you lose some.
That bitch will never give up.
It’s a ploy.
You’re right, she’s been running for president for 50 years, she’s not giving up now. If I were Obama, I’d be watching my back. He might come down with that weird skin disease Michael Jackson has. That’ll level the playing field, white women vs. formerly black man.
I disagree. If Macaca wins, Social-Conservatives LOSE BIG TIME. Social-Conservatives must show They have PRINCIPLES and the courage to abide by them if they are going to be taken seriously the next time around. Let the 'other' conservatives do what they will... If they are willing to show that they were ALL BARK AND NOT BITE... let them do it. We must be different.
KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE BALL SOCIAL-CONSERVATIVES! :)
“In my opinion, voting for a losing (or even winning-BCC) McCain is only encouraging the GOP further leftward so Im writing my conservative choice in come November.”
I too will be writing in my choice. Where have all the conservatives goon?
Oh, an intellectual. Have fun constantly explaining what a "classic liberal" is. :-) But I fully understand what you're saying. In today's world you are a garden variety libertarian. Thanks for clearing that up.
I had also said that I could never vote for McCain, but realize the other choice is impossible to consider. I will vote for McCain because I can not stand the thought of Obama or Hillary in the White House.
I do not have a problem with such things as public roads and public funding of primary and secondary education, although I see little scope for the federal government in either...
I had no idea there was such a thing as a "Classical Liberal".
You have told me what you "don't have" a problem with, please do tell me what you do have a problem with...
Ginsburg and Breyer didn’t lose their way...
Your anger lost a lot more than the presidency...
Not acting spoiled. Some might call it integrity.
If the choice is to vote for someone who is less crappy than someone else, I’ll chose a third option.
And even though McCain has “found God” on the illegal immigration issue, I don’t believe him.
Quote from the Godfather that applies — “You need to have a war every ten years or so to get rid of all the bad blood.”
If the Republican party fractures, so be it.
Hillary will never “give up”. Let’s see what happens when Obama’s cocaine-buddy/gay lover takes his polygraph test.
“Either way those who would sit the election out lose all right to call themselves the base of the party.
A real base wouldn’t act so spoiled.”
How do YOU propose we conservatives send the message to the RNC that we want true conservatives? When I was in California, the “base” voted for Awnuld, a man married into the Kennedys and not a whole lot different than McCain. That worked just great, didn’t it?
Much as I would hate to see a Dem in the White House, we might do well to write in the names of true conservatives that more closely share our point of view, suffer through the next Presidency, a then perhaps have the attention of the Party.
I'm with you guys!
Your vote for the Mcainiac will do NOTHING to stop the Socialization of the Medical Insurance industry whatsoever, nor would his winning the election.
The number of weak-kneed RINO's in the Congress now will allow it to become the law of the land.
Conservatives who voted "Republican" for the RINO's all along are to blame; and continue to support RINO candidates that the Republican Party puts up for elections.
Maybe she could get the New York Times to run a hit piece on her too.
Those who go along with the program, no matter what asshat is thrust in front of them as the Party's Candidate, simply rubber stamp the RNC's RINOism, and no change will ever come about, as they can always count on the non-principled votes.
Is there a write-in we can all agree on? Personally, I am strongly leaning towards Rick Santorum. If a write-in candidate received a significant portion of the overall vote, perhaps the GOP would wake up and smell the coffee.