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Two arrested in Berkeley Marine recruiting center protest
Contra Costa Times ^ | 2/22/8

Posted on 02/22/2008 8:16:12 PM PST by SmithL

BERKELEY -- Two people were arrested Friday after they encircled police during a protest of the U.S. Marine recruiting center, a police spokeswoman said.

A group called The World Can't Wait -- Drive Out the Bush Regime was demonstrating at the downtown center Friday to protest military recruiting in Berkeley.

The issue has been in the limelight recently after the City Council last month called the recruiters "uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

Police spokeswoman Sgt. Mary Kusmiss said about 20 protesters marched from the Marine recruiting center at 64 Shattuck Square to Shattuck Avenue and Center Street to rally for their cause.

Two Berkeley police bike officers followed the group to protect the community, she said.

At the corner of Shattuck and Center, a protester screamed into a megaphone, a violation of a city permit because it was away from the recruiting center, where protesters have a sound permit.

Police tried to detain him to talk about the violation, Kusmiss said.

At that point, the crowd surged and surrounded the bike officers and closed in on them, she said.

Police called for backup and at least a dozen cars arrived in downtown, Kusmiss said.

Kusmiss said officers had to use some force to make the arrests and protect their colleagues during the surge. No one was seriously injured although a couple of police officers sustained minor injuries, Kusmiss said.

Police arrested Rafael Schiller, 26 of Berkeley, and another man who refused to give his name, police said.

Officials from World Can't Wait were not immediately available for comment.

Police said the arrests were for resisting arrest, but the two could also face other charges for refusing to give their names and violating the city permit.

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1 posted on 02/22/2008 8:16:14 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

How do two people surround anyone?!


2 posted on 02/22/2008 8:17:29 PM PST by Redcloak ("A plague o' both your houses!")
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To: SmithL
So, threatening police is a crime, but threatening pro-troop protesters is OK with Berkeley. What a bunch of insipid cowards.
3 posted on 02/22/2008 8:19:04 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Redcloak

There is a different reality in Beserkeley.


4 posted on 02/22/2008 8:19:09 PM PST by SmithL (That's my story & I'm sticking to it!)
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To: SmithL

I never imagined that it extended to spatial geometry.


5 posted on 02/22/2008 8:20:18 PM PST by Redcloak ("A plague o' both your houses!")
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To: SmithL
protect their colleagues during the surge

For the millionth time, everything does not have to be described as a surge!!! Get a thesaurus. Use your imagination.

The cops should have crushed some skulls while waiting for their backup to arrive.

6 posted on 02/22/2008 8:22:40 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: SmithL
I would bet any amount of money that these "protesters" are UNEMPLOYED.

In other words, parasites.

7 posted on 02/22/2008 8:22:49 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Redcloak

“Police said the arrests were for resisting arrest,”

Hippies or not...this is the lamest charge I’ve ever seen used....it’s the “yeah we’re cops and you’re not” arrest...

“You’re under arrest”

“For what”?

“resisting arrest”


8 posted on 02/22/2008 8:23:32 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: SmithL
The World Can't Wait locusts:


9 posted on 02/22/2008 8:24:33 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: SmithL
Police said the arrests were for resisting arrest, but the two could also face other charges for refusing to give their names and violating the city permit

Not to defend these people but I find it crazy that Americans can be charged with crimes like this while Illegal aliens are using stolen SSN's and running amok and the "authorities" look the other way

10 posted on 02/22/2008 8:33:19 PM PST by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: Lizavetta

Looks like a sorority with nothing else to do.


11 posted on 02/22/2008 8:35:26 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: Redcloak

Too many twinkies?


12 posted on 02/22/2008 8:42:27 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: SmithL

It’s starting to get violent. Good...I’m looking forward to it.

BITS


13 posted on 02/22/2008 8:43:03 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Max Friedman

It looks like there are a couple of twinks in that picture...


14 posted on 02/22/2008 8:45:15 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Redcloak

They’re very fast.


15 posted on 02/22/2008 8:47:04 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: Lizavetta
Nothing a few frag grenades couldn't fix.

The pukes in Berkeley can kiss my ***!

16 posted on 02/22/2008 8:47:10 PM PST by chaos_5 (McStain and Suckabee 2008)
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To: Lizavetta

Brainless students.


17 posted on 02/22/2008 8:48:48 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: Lizavetta
Their website is HERE.

Extreme barf warning. They appear to be communists.

"We seek to create a political situation where the Bush administration's program is repudiated, where Bush himself is driven from office, and where the whole direction he has been taking U.S. society is reversed.

We seek to mobilize millions to express their outrage, to speak the truth, to act with urgency and form an organized political resistance. We welcome any individuals and groups who agree that the Bush Regime should be driven out, whatever their political party affiliation or lack thereof. We reach out to people who have been fooled by Bush, and to those who have been most seriously affected by the outrages inflicted by the Bush Regime."

18 posted on 02/22/2008 8:49:24 PM PST by Loud Mime ("Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not")
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To: Palladin

Where does a person buy pepper spray? Have never seen a source for it. Go on the Internet? This is a serious request.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 8:56:27 PM PST by kaycee (The time has come, the Walrus said, to speak of many things.)
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To: Lizavetta
I would bet any amount of money that these "protesters" are UNEMPLOYED.

Nah, I'm sure they're being paid a little somethin' somethin' from their taskmaster George Soros.

20 posted on 02/22/2008 8:59:18 PM PST by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: kaycee
Where does a person buy pepper spray? Have never seen a source for it. Go on the Internet? This is a serious request.

Yeah, but be careful. Some communities regulate the concealed carry of things liks mace, pepper spray, etc. Can't have the sheep get too uppity.

21 posted on 02/22/2008 9:01:57 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: kaycee

It’s sold anywhere guns or ammo is sold. Or go online. GOOGLE will come up with many sites.


22 posted on 02/22/2008 9:07:37 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: kaycee

Here’s a good article:

http://studenttravel.about.com/od/womenstudenttravelers/a/pepperspray.htm

I googled “pepper spray” and “self-defense” and came up with lots of links.


23 posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:20 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

A better idea: a drive-by in a full septic tank cleaner truck with the flow reversed. Better area coverage with a suitable substance.


24 posted on 02/22/2008 9:16:24 PM PST by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: Crim
“Police said the arrests were for resisting arrest,”

Hippies or not...this is the lamest charge I’ve ever seen used....it’s the “yeah we’re cops and you’re not” arrest...

“You’re under arrest”

“For what”?

“resisting arrest”
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Lame??? More lame than the cops standing by and allowing the protesters to block the entrance to the USMC station, and explaining that they would not help because the didn’t want to take sides!a protester screamed into a megaphone, a violation of a city permit because it was away from the recruiting center, where protesters have a sound permit.
From the article:

a protester screamed into a megaphone, a violation of a city permit because it was away from the recruiting center, where protesters have a sound permit.

Police tried to detain him to talk about the violation, Kusmiss said.

At that point, the crowd surged and surrounded the bike officers and closed in on them, she said.
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A Crowd, as described by the article numbering around 20...
lets see 2 cops vs ‘around 20’ wacked out idiots, not a nice situation for the cops. here’s the kicker...No one was seriously injured although a couple of police officers sustained minor injuries, Kusmiss said.
In some parts of the country this is called injury to a police officer?

Lame???? i hardly think so. How about assault, injury to a police officer. resisting arrest.

ok it isn’t a capital offense but for now it will do.

25 posted on 02/22/2008 9:19:46 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Noumenon
A better idea: a drive-by in a full septic tank cleaner truck with the flow reversed. Better area coverage with a suitable substance

I'd pay good money to see that!

26 posted on 02/22/2008 9:19:58 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: Noumenon

A better idea: a one hour tipoff to the Marines, and drop a daisy cutter on it.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 9:25:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Lizavetta

Most are students or in the words of a friend of mine...”permanent” students. Unemployed folks are usually waiting for hand-outs or trying to get a day job to pay for a couple of meals for the next day or two. Also, if they were really unemployed...you’d see this type of action all over the US...especially in New York City...but you don’t. No unemployed guy would waste his time in such a manner.

I’m betting most of these folks are students, permanent students, or loser-spouses who don’t work and rely upon their partner or spouse for life essentials. A guy that has two kids in college...is never going to do this stupid stuff. A single mom with three kids...is never going to do this stupid stuff. A guy with a $1200 mortgage payment....is never going to do this stupid stuff. A guy with a terminally ill parent...is not going to do this stupid stuff. These are all special folks...with no life...no self value....no ownership of a home...no worries.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 9:31:07 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: All; Redcloak; purpleraine; Lizavetta; Crim; NativeSon; 17th Miss Regt; jmcenanly; Loud Mime; ...

The petition

We, the undersigned condemn the Berkeley City Council’s treasonous attack on US Marine Recruiters stationed in their city. We ask that Congress cut off funds from any and all municipal entity within the confines of the city of Berkeley, California, until such time as the city council withdraws it’s action.

The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and “if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.”

The measure passed last week by a vote of 8-1.

The council also voted to explore enforcing a city anti-discrimination law, focusing on the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

In a separate item, the council voted, also 8-1, to give the Marxist protest group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cutoffberkeleynow

If you wish to, please share with your friends or e-mail to your address books. You DO NOT have to donate at the petition site, there will be a page asking for one for the site after you sign, just back out or exit. Your signature will already be on the petition.

http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com


29 posted on 02/22/2008 9:38:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: SmithL

“Police arrested Rafael Schiller........”

I do believe that Mr Schiller likes to refer to himself as “Mr Schiller-Laden.”

http://jwoodard.best.vwh.net/perspectivestv/highlights3.html

Isn’t that cute?


30 posted on 02/22/2008 9:40:33 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: SmithL

Where are the tasers? Is Beserkley a taser-free zone too?


31 posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:51 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: SmithL

“They took some large chains they brought with them in the morning and connected themselves together like a long chain gang,” she said.

The situation escalated when a crowd of more than 25 protestors began to encircle the officer and his partner, shoving and kicking them, Kusmiss said.

one participant began to incite the crowd, urging them to get Schiller back from the police while he forced his way past officers. The man, estimated to be in his 20s, was also arrested for obstructing or interfering with a peace officer but refused to identify himself.

http://tinyurl.com/32zmdd


32 posted on 02/22/2008 9:47:23 PM PST by kcvl
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To: SmithL

Rafael Schiller-Laden

33 posted on 02/22/2008 9:48:29 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Lizavetta

“Who is John Galt?”


34 posted on 02/22/2008 10:02:38 PM PST by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: JohnD9207

I said THAT charge is lame....how about charging them aggravated menacing, a REAL charge...something they were doing...

Dont confuse my issue with lame arrest excuses with anykind of support for these hippies...

My neighbor was arrested for loitering......on his own front porch...

Simply an excuse to haul his but downtown for the inconvenience.....

Notice they didnt get in trouble for messing with marines.....they got in trouble for messing with cops...


35 posted on 02/22/2008 10:28:52 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: All

36 posted on 02/22/2008 11:56:18 PM PST by Cindy
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To: SmithL; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2ndClassCitizen; 2SterlingConservatives; ...
D.C. Chapter Master Ping List

A little good news from Berkeley even if the arrests were made ONLY because it was directed at the police.

[Mr] T

37 posted on 02/23/2008 4:05:34 AM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: SmithL
Kusmiss said officers had to use some force to make the arrests and protect their colleagues during the surge.

LOL, I guess the protestors' surge didn't work.

38 posted on 02/23/2008 4:32:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Loud Mime

Love violent “peace” protestors!

Don’t any of these idiots realize the “Bush Regime” will be “driven out” in about 10 months BECAUSE HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION????


39 posted on 02/23/2008 4:47:15 AM PST by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: kcvl
you found him also:

Rafael Schiller-Laden, is a youth and student organizer with the organization, World Can't Wait! He became politically active in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina when he became outraged at the Bush Administration's neglect and abuse of hurricane survivors. Since then, he has been mobilizing college and high school activism across the Bay Area, including anti-war protests, school walkouts and in-school teach-ins, reaching large student audiences (the "Mission of a Generation Speaking Tour"), and has recently been reaching out to tens of thousands with WCW's resistance at summer mega-concerts. Last summer he took WCW on its Red State Bus Tour across the Southern states and was involved in mobilizing against the notorious evangelical youth group "Battlecry" when it came to San Francisco to recruit teenagers into a militaristic, Christian Right movement. In the last few months Rafael was involved in an occupation of the FEMA building in Oakland on the 2nd anniversary of Katrina, and just recently. in confronting the College Republicans at SF State as they attempted to use the 6th anniversary of 9/11 to justify this endless war

In this interview, Rafael explains World Can't Wait's Call to Action. He describes the futility of ordinary protest and dares to hope and plan for driving out the Bush regime and completely repudiating its policies and practices, in order to save the best of American legal and political principles.
http://jwoodard.best.vwh.net/perspectivestv/highlights3.html

40 posted on 02/23/2008 5:22:00 AM PST by W04Man (DON'T BLAME ME, I was With Fred)
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To: Lizavetta

The girl in white didn’t get the memo that black is chic


41 posted on 02/23/2008 5:26:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: SmithL; trooprally; BufordP; Jimmy Valentine's brother; Just A Nobody; Doctor Raoul; kristinn
Is everybody in the city of Berzerkistanan an idiot, or does Berzerkistan police spokeswoman Sgt. Mary Kusmiss just think they are?

Two Berkeley police bike officers followed the group to protect the community, she said.

How does she think that two bicycle cops will "protect the community" from a roving gang of 20 Revolutionary Communist Party hoodlums? By lobbing Koosh balls at them? Lassoing them with their feather boas and marching them in a conga-line to Berzerkistan Police HQ/Starbucks?

And why do the two bicycle police "protect the community" on Friday, but not "protect" pro-troops demonstrators and the people trying to enter and exit the US Marine Recruiting center?

The longer this farce continues in Berzerkistan, the more convinced I am that the good citizens in rest of the country should petition our federal legislators to kick that city and all of it's idiot, leftist city government "leaders" and idiot, leftist residents out of the USA.

Until they start rounding up the peace rioters and cracking some heads as needed, and generally acting like the law means something, the RCP, WWP, and other assorted Moonbats will own the city as they do now.

Berzerkistan is a quagmire.

42 posted on 02/23/2008 5:37:38 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

My thoughts exactly.

It was only a crime when it happened to them, not us.


43 posted on 02/23/2008 5:59:33 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Lizavetta
Not a bad photo...when cropped.

Here's an example of how Time might crop it and claim it's a pro-Marine protest, if the had their bias in the opposite direction (recall how they cropped a photo of Ann Coulter supporters and referred to them as protestors against her?)...

44 posted on 02/23/2008 6:14:40 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: tgslTakoma
The longer this farce continues in Berzerkistan, the more convinced I am that the good citizens in rest of the country should petition our federal legislators to kick that city and all of it's idiot, leftist city government "leaders" and idiot, leftist residents out of the USA.

As much as I hate these scum, I don't wish to give the federal government any more power.

Until they start rounding up the peace rioters and cracking some heads as needed, and generally acting like the law means something, the RCP, WWP, and other assorted Moonbats will own the city as they do now.

It's their city, and I'm glad there are so many concentrated there, rather than spreading out and contaminating other areas.

Maybe I'm too conservative, but I believe in local control and letting them handle their own issues, unless it crosses into violations of civil rights or other areas in which the feds must step in. I'm just very cautious of setting precedent for Obama to step into local matters.

45 posted on 02/23/2008 6:23:16 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: RaceBannon
It was only a crime when it happened to them, not us.

They tried to encircle the pro-Marine protestors with chain and nothing was done?!? Got pics? How were they stopped?

46 posted on 02/23/2008 6:28:04 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: trooprally

At least the police were watching them. Now, if the Code Pink mob would violate the terms of their permit ...


47 posted on 02/23/2008 1:48:22 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: bert
She shaves her underarms too. Must be a new convert..
48 posted on 02/23/2008 1:56:52 PM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: SmithL

What are these ‘hate groups’ going to do when Bush is no longer in office?


49 posted on 02/23/2008 2:21:07 PM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Redcloak
How do two people surround anyone?!

No, the protesters surrounded the two bike officers.

These people are violent. World can't Wait is a front group for the Revolutionary Party, a cult that incites violence.

Substitute Bob Avakian for David Koresh, and Communists for Christians and there you have it. Both are end of the world cults. Both believe that society would descend into murder and mayhem and that they would rise up to lead the word; with in RCP's case, rebuilding the world on the ashes of capitalism.

It was the RCP types that pushed and shoved people trying to enter the recruiting station and it was RCP that lead the school kids to try and fight with the police at the station house during the Move America Forward rally.

The RCP symbol is a Red Star flag flying from a bayonet and rifle and for the kiddie poos of the Revolutionary Communist Youth Movement, the symbol is a Red Star from which a raised arm with a clenched fist. Of course the cleenched fist grasping that communist peace symbol, the AK-47 Assault Weapon.

50 posted on 02/23/2008 2:25:37 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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