Interracial and trangender!
Posted on 02/24/2008 3:19:08 PM PST by ventanax5
It’s a lonely job, working the phones at a college rape crisis center. Day after day, you wait for the casualties to show up from the alleged campus rape epidemic—but no one calls. Could this mean that the crisis is overblown? No: it means, according to the campus sexual-assault industry, that the abuse of coeds is worse than anyone had ever imagined. It means that consultants and counselors need more funding to persuade student rape victims to break the silence of their suffering.
The campus rape movement highlights the current condition of radical feminism, from its self-indulgent bathos to its embrace of ever more vulnerable female victimhood. But the movement is an even more important barometer of academia itself. In a delicious historical irony, the baby boomers who dismantled the university’s intellectual architecture in favor of unbridled sex and protest have now bureaucratized both. While women’s studies professors bang pots and blow whistles at antirape rallies, in the dorm next door, freshman counselors and deans pass out tips for better orgasms and the use of sex toys. The academic bureaucracy is roomy enough to sponsor both the dour antimale feminism of the college rape movement and the promiscuous hookup culture of student life. The only thing that doesn’t fit into the university’s new commitments is serious scholarly purpose
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Just wondering?
Johnnie Walker Black makes me wonder about all sorts of unanswered questions about the PC culture, and how we got here.
ML/NJ
I am NOT condoning rape, but there is a difference between rape and regret. Lost of young niave girls get drunk and say yes when “they are sure they would have said no!!!”
As someone who was close to a rape victim, I can assure you that rapists are more often uneducated, hatefilled and into criminal activities.
But of course, the feminists would rather go after the Duke Lacross Team.
Different article.
Just thought it may be of intrest, not trying to be one of those wacky thread cops!
Red does the same....
That’s an outside criminal assailant, not a fellow student.
After my freshman year I took a small survey of my high school friends, and half of us had indeed been victims of sexual assault or attempted rape by fellow students. No completed rapes, thank God. When it happened to me I was stone cold sober and miles from a party - my friends had likewise been sober. I think only one of us reported it.
The problem as I see it, was co-ed dorms, aggressive hormonally-charged young men, and young women not taught to recognize and avoid dangerous situations.
Speaking of which, when the criminal is an outsider, again students aren’t taught sufficient caution - they leave doors unlocked, live in apartments with unbarred windows in bad neighborhoods, travel unescorted - and are taught to feel guilty if their instinctive alarms go off - they are judging by appearances or even...profiling.
The perp is a black local, not student and is a career criminal. Rape is rape but we're not talking about a drunken frat boy here.
gee, if the victim is white I wonder if there will be protests and vigils and a visit from Sharpton
Different article different source
Very true. I went to school in University City in Philly and every new year some freshman got murdered (usually from UofP). Assualts were common and to make things worse, some of these students were so "green" that I wanted rob them to teach them a lesson.
I would warn people where not go - I was born and raised in Philly- and I would be rebuked with the pc blather - "they're missunderstood, you're racist, don't bother them they won't bother you". Utter nonsense.
They learned the hard way
Then stay away from the Johnnie Walker Blue!
Several Freepers who "knew better" took me to task and claimed that was a well-trained police force, first on the scene, prepared for everything, etc.
Looked pretty good until we went to the VA Tech Police site on the net.
What a disaster.
Full page and a half of how to report a campus rape before you got to the part about reporting deranged gunmen and other emergency situations.
Mind you that was AFTER the killings, not before. The University administration had had several months to refocus the website so that the first thing would be "REPORTING REAL CRIMES", "REPORTING REAL EMERGENCIES", "FINDING A COP".
My intellectual superiors who told me that VA Tech didn't have a rinky-dink operation disappeared and I haven't seen them back.
I would like to explore these thoughts with you but unfortunately I left my newly received, limited ediiton, Johnny Blue at the office. So you will have to ponder these intellectual and worthy questions without me.
If a lesbian performs oral sex on an unwilling transgendered being, and if that being couldn’t remember which sex it started out as, in it’s beginning, would that act qualify as justification to call the rape line?
Is that a question from that “new math” they are always talking about in the f*** up school systems?
I am NOT condoning rape, but there is a difference between rape and regret. Lost of young niave girls get drunk and say yes when “they are sure they would have said no!!!”
Actually at these colleges, a lot of girls get so drunk they can’t say “yes” or “no”, and that is the real problem! They should not be that drunk and in a bad position where someone could take advantage of them!
But of course, the feminists would rather go after the Duke Lacross Team.
Not that time. That time it was a scumbag Prosecutor who wanted to suck up to the blacks to get re-elected. Now he is getting sued by every white in town!
At any rate, I didn't have anything to worry about because I never found piss drunk girls attractive. Sex with a girl who can barely walk and is puking all over the place was never my idea of a good time.
No, the real problem is that they say "yes," in a very slurred manner, and then cry rape the next morning. It doesn't happen all that often, but it does happen.
“If a lesbian performs oral sex on an unwilling transgendered being, and if that being couldn’t remember which sex it started out as, in it’s beginning, would that act qualify as justification to call the rape line?”
If Michael Jackson masturbates, is that interracial sex?
It is for that reasons they have passed laws stating that it is illegal to have sex with a person who is intoxicated. I agree. She is too drunk to know what she is agreeing to. Any person of good moral character, minus Bill Clinton, would take her home and put her to bed. Not have sex with her.
In th mid 90’s as I was finishing my degree, the wife of a friend (both also college students) who had obviously bought into the “drunken sex is rape” B.S. was writing a paper by presenting tow pictures and asking whether the dress of young woman showed that she was “asking for it”. I took her survey but unloaded on her the fact that young women dress in a certain way in order to get attention from males. I basically told her that if you aren’t wanting to fish, don’t put out bait.
Interracial and trangender!
true, but not quite as smooth.
By the same stupid logic, he can't be a rapist, because he's drunk too. To her, obviously, alcohol, erases judgment and responsibility.
But, who does these laws protect and why. I would assume that the majority of males in these circumstances are also drunk, and end up doing things that they normally wouldn’t have done. So, if both parties are drunk who raped whom?
Additionally, anytime that you create a law that strips a person of their right to consent you are demeaning them to a lesser role in society. While these laws “protect” women from accidentally consenting when they normally wouldn’t, these laws actually strip women of their adulthood. Under the logic of these laws, anytime a woman takes a drink, she is no longer a rational person who can make decisions. These laws don’t protect, they merely demean.
She hated it, while her experience was probably not the norm, and was weird, she did have a good point.
"Rape victims call cops, not us".
The reason she hated the job was that she claimed the girls in the sororities were prank calling the call center and harassing them and mocking them.
She never got why they did it, except to tell me what the sorority girls told them.
I only use Blue on special occasions.
For example, when I go to vote for mcpain, I'll self medicate on Blue, and when I return, I'll finish the job with Black.
A lot of urban universities are near bad neighborhoods.
The day I was born, my father was almost beaten to death in by a bunch of young black thugs in a laundromat near the University of Chicago. He said that police arrested an old black wino and asked him if that was who had done it. The message he wanted me to remember was that the police were racist, God rest him.
In spite of my upbringing I did learn enough sense to stay away from bad neighborhoods and be wary of potential young thugs and pay attention to inner alarms. Although I did wander along the railroad tracks in Cambridge to pick wildflowers and birdwatch while I was there - was nature-deprived. Not far from the housing projects. Never saw anyone but me on the tracks, luckily.
Man, do I have a lot to teach my daughters - and my boys too, I guess - before they go off to college. My oldest girl always says, “Why are you telling me this? I know.” But she really doesn’t.
DOJ statistics show that you are almost HALF of all rapes are committed by black males. A large portion of those (nearly half IIRC) of which are against white women. You won’t hear Fat Alfred repeating that anywhere.
They don't want equal rights for women - they want only rights for women with no responsibility.
Consider the whole abortion argument. If she wants to abort it's HER BODY. If she wants to keep it it's HIS responsibility. To which I say sweetie, if it's your body, your choice when you made out, took off your clothes, and did the deed, it's STILL your body after you're facing a pregnancy that YOU created.
If they are too drunk to drive a car or operate machinery why would it be prudent to think they can not consent to sex? Why would any decent man take advantage of a woman in that state? What happened to the days where we took a woman who had too much to drink home? I can not believe I am even having this conversation. Are the 1950’s truly gone? There is no chivalry left in America?
You people are actually saying that it is okay to have sex with a drunk woman if she says “yes” and it is slurred? No! Tell her she has had enough to drink and take her home!!!
By the same stupid logic, he can't be a rapist, because he's drunk too. To her, obviously, alcohol, erases judgment and responsibility.
If I get so drunk that I loan $100 to a total stranger on the street, can I accuse that person of robbery because he accepted money from somebody who was too drunk to consent to a loan?
A woman who drinks and drives is held fully responsible for any consequences of her impaired judgment. Why should a woman who drinks and parties be held to a lower standard?
Nobody should allow herself (or himself) to get so drunk that they have grossly impaired judgement
If they are both drunk, which one is the rapist?
Do only women get drunk? Or do only women have the right to consent? Are men just sex crazed pigs who can never say no? Do these laws protect all drunk people who have sex, or only women?
If the laws only protect women, then they perpetuate stereotypes about the inferiority of women as a sex and of men as animals. Also, you still haven’t explained how the laws operate if both the male and female are drunk - who raped whom?
You are assuming that the guy is sober enough to notice how drunk the woman is. When you are drunk, the first thing to go is your judgment, which is why I have not gotten that drunk in 30 years. I will have an occasional beer when I'm out with friends, but I tend to nurse that beer for the evening, and I doubt my blood alcohol level goes past 0.02 at any point.
Because so long as they chose to get drunk, they are responsible for all their actions while drunk.
Suppose a man gets drunk and then murders someone? Should he be let off because he was incapable of consenting to murder?
I agree with you that a guy who takes a piss-drunk girl into his bed and has sex with her is scum. But he's no more scum than the girl. And most certainly he's not a rapist.
From the male point of view, males can be raped by females while drunk. A male who has unprotected sex while drunk can be liable to 18+ years of child support
Yeah, I went to Columbia, which is just on the edge of Harlem (it's not in Harlem, though). For this reason, it's a pretty good bet that a Columbia or Barnard coed has a lot greater chance of getting raped by someone from off campus than a fellow student.
I knew a couple students mugged very near campus, and no, they weren't mugged by their classmates.
I don't know if I agree with that. Lots of stupid decisions are made while drunk. Believe me, I know. But it doesn't exempt me from the consequences. Maybe the girl thought it was a good idea to sleep with some guy while she was drunk. Now in the morning it doesn't seem like such a good idea. So therefore the guy "raped" her.
I am not sure how to respond to that. We are not talking about a perfect world. Personally, I don’t think anyone should be having sex outside of marriage. If we followed that rule, a lot of our problems would disappear.
However, law does not deal with the perfect world, and it does not set standards that we should aspire to live by. Criminal law sets a minimum level of behaviour that society tolerates.
Any law that strips people of freedom to “protect” them from themselves is bad law. The laws that you mentioned strip women of the right to consent when they are drunk. These laws seek to protect women by taking away their freedom. Not only does this take women’s freedom, but it also demeans women.
Really? Which states have passed such laws?
I know that some universities have rules that declare a rapist any man who has sex with a drunk woman (but not the other way around, strangely), but this is the first I've heard of such a thing getting into the criminal code.
FYI, I don't think that any such laws exist. I believe Morgana is confusing some universities' code of conduct (which do the very thing you deplore) with actual laws.
Yea, I know what you mean. I do not drink either. Since this story is about college campii, it should be noted for the record how much college students drink....A LOT! They are away from Mommy and Daddy, and they go wild! They show no restraint. It scared me when I was in college. I saw kids puking in the bath room......”praying to the porcelain god”
Honestly I wish some parents would teach their kids how to handle freedom so that when they get to college to do not do the stupid crap that I saw. I also keep forgetting that these frat houses would never “walk” a girl home who has had too much to drink. Oh heavens no! What was I thinking? They are getting her drunk to have fun with her in the first place! How on earth did I ever forget that in college? I knew frat houses kick off campus for that crap.
You will all have to excuse me...I had a professor in college sum it all up in one statement that he said to me....”You expect too much”.
FYI, I don’t think that any such laws exist. I believe Morgana is confusing some universities’ code of conduct (which do the very thing you deplore) with actual laws.
Well at Marshall University those code of conduct laws changed hourly, so really it was hard to know them.
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