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Bush's Kosovo policy, like Chamberlain's Munich policy, could lead to war
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/080224 ^

Posted on 02/24/2008 3:50:09 PM PST by kronos77

History has been a harsh critic of Neville Chamberlain's decision in 1938 to allow Adolf Hitler to trash the WWI Versailles peace treaty to seize control of and change the borders Europe, first France in the Rhineland, then Czechoslovakia and Poland. President George W. Bush's quick acceptance of the efforts of the Albanians in Kosovo to change the borders of Serbia will also be viewed in history as an appeasement that did not work.

World War II actually began when Adolf Hitler marched a mere 14,500 troops into the Rhineland on March 7, 1936, in violation of the Treaty of Versailles that ended World War I and the Locarno Treaty which was signed in 1925 that included the "Rhineland Pact" between Germany, France, Belgium, Britain and Italy. The Rhineland Pact's main provision was an agreement among Germany, France and Belgium end border raids, with Britain and Italy agreeing to guarantee the borders in the event of aggression by any of the other states. ... Kosovo is for Serbia a land somewhat similar to what Pennsylvania is to Americans. Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian liberty and the center of their Serbian culture. There are hundreds of structures, churches, monuments, monasteries, that attest to that history. What has happened in Kosovo, with America's help, would be similar to a large group of Islamic fundamentalists, whose hero and mentor is Osama Bin Laden, moving into Pennsylvania over the next 50 years, as Albanians did in Kosovo in the 20th Century, and then voting to become an Independent State with membership in the United Nations, as they burned down the Christian churches, Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell while driving out and seizing the property of the remaining Christians, Jews and non-Churched homeowners.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; appeasement; bushkosovo; clintonswar; corruptbush; cowardice; islam; jihad; kosovo; saudiarabia; serbia; terror; terrorism; wahhabism; wrongside
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1 posted on 02/24/2008 3:50:14 PM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/24/2008 3:51:54 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Nah.
What happens in the Balkans could never start a major war.


3 posted on 02/24/2008 3:54:14 PM PST by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: All

“The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius. We have subsidized and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure and independent Kosovo.We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early ‘90s and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today in spite of evidence to the contrary. When they achieve independence with the help of our tax dollars combined with those of bin Laden and al-Qaeda, just consider the message of encouragement this sends to other terrorist-supported independence movements around the world. Funny how we just keep digging the hole deeper!”—Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie


4 posted on 02/24/2008 3:58:02 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: kronos77
"If there is ever another war in Europe, it will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans."

- Otto von Bismarck.
5 posted on 02/24/2008 3:58:04 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: kronos77

The best way to prevent more war in the Balkans is for NATO to remain in control of Kosovo.


6 posted on 02/24/2008 4:01:17 PM PST by HAL9000 ("If someone who has access to the press says something over and over again, people believe it"- B.C.)
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To: kronos77

Are we alarmed yet?
Guess not. Maybe a few more war threads will get us whipped up into a fear frenzy.


7 posted on 02/24/2008 4:04:24 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: HAL9000
Slight correction:

The best way to prevent more war in the Balkans is for NATOxxxx SERBIA to remain in control of Kosovo.

8 posted on 02/24/2008 4:05:29 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: FormerLib

The Kosovars were good at playing the Media with all those starving children and stories of rape etc...Clinton fell for it as did the MSM. In truth this is a problem for Europeans to handle. We should not be involved. No one has clean hands here.


9 posted on 02/24/2008 4:07:52 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

No, giving Kosovo back to the Serbians is the best way to cause more war. The Serbians have proven that they are incapable of governing Kosovo. The riots in Belgrade and burning of the U.S. Embassy are proof of it. It’s better for NATO to remain in control of Kosovo.


10 posted on 02/24/2008 4:08:05 PM PST by HAL9000 ("If someone who has access to the press says something over and over again, people believe it"- B.C.)
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To: kronos77

You may be correct but it should be the Clinton - Bush policy as the meat and potato of our policy was under Clinton and there the damage was done.


11 posted on 02/24/2008 4:09:09 PM PST by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: kronos77
The writer prefers rhetoric to facts, doesn't he.

Neville Chamberlain's decision in 1938 to allow Adolf Hitler to trash the WWI Versailles peace treaty to seize control of and change the borders Europe, first France in the Rhineland

How many errors can he make in one sentence?

The Rhineland was re-militarized in 1936, not 1938. Strike one.

Chamberlain wasn't PM in 36 - Baldwin was. Strike two.

No borders were changed. German military forces re-occupied German sovereign territory. Strike 3. He's out.

There is some question as to whether the action should be considered a violation of the Versailles treaty (Article 43) or a violation of the Locarno treaty (Article 1). But I'll spot him that one.

12 posted on 02/24/2008 4:11:58 PM PST by PAR35
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To: kronos77

Well, except, actually, we’ve been in a war. A war that matters to everyone. But, as usual, the eurtards want to pretend its all someone elses problem and has nothing to do with them.

The idea that war might now, just now, be upon that part of europe is ridiculous in the extreme. Too late, sucks to be them. Not our problem until it’s time to clean out Kosovo with neutrons. If the Serbs want to align with the losers from Russia, then good for them. One less place for us to worry about, since we’ll need to burn them out eventually too.

Serbia is the friend of Russia and now, iirc, signed on with a defense pact with Iran.

Sucks to be them.

I would appreciate being removed from this ping list.


13 posted on 02/24/2008 4:12:04 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: FormerLib; All
“The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius.

I can't agree with that statement! The clinton administration knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to remove the terrorist tag from the terrorist UCK, conducted their sham negotiations and begin their terror bombing campaign.

The Bush administration also knows exactly what it's doing.

Both administrations have been running the merry-go-round. The Albanians have hopped on for a free ride!

14 posted on 02/24/2008 4:14:02 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Boundless
What happens in the Balkans could never start a major war.

Euroweenies haven't the capability for a MAJOR war and the USA is stretched so thin in manpower and materials we aren't either

That is the GOOD NEWS and the Bad News
15 posted on 02/24/2008 4:20:15 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: F-117A

It doesn’t matter whose fault it is now doesn’t it?

Our embassy just got burned by some tribal monkeys,

that is all I have to know.

Pardon my heresy, but between some serbo-albanian crap and Clinton, I will side with Clinton any time,

at least he doesn’t burn our flags (at list not that we know of it) and speaks English.


16 posted on 02/24/2008 4:21:39 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: PAR35

You are quoting 1936-—author said 1938


17 posted on 02/24/2008 4:22:27 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: h2ny2

Side with a traitor if you wish


18 posted on 02/24/2008 4:23:24 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: h2ny2
at least he doesn’t burn our flags (at list not that we know of it) and speaks English.

Maybe if Clinton had bombed your capital into rubble and turned part of the USA over to muslim nutjobs you would have a different opinion
19 posted on 02/24/2008 4:24:44 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: h2ny2

You shall know them by their words.


20 posted on 02/24/2008 4:26:25 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: uncbob

Please tell me that everything is our fault.

I did not hear that in a long time.


21 posted on 02/24/2008 4:30:28 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: h2ny2

As you wish. In this case it is the fault of Washington and it’s foreign policy.


22 posted on 02/24/2008 4:36:01 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: h2ny2

You don’t think we should have stayed out of the Balkans


23 posted on 02/24/2008 4:39:20 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: kronos77
Here's a thought - good. Be about bloody time. Sitting around watching while Russia deliberately gives terror states nuclear technology sure isn't working.
24 posted on 02/24/2008 4:40:55 PM PST by JasonC
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To: randomhero97

Bingo! You won the prize!

But here is my take on it,

we are big enough and strong enough to be on the

wrong side every once in a while. Live with it ...

... until we nuke the whole damn place.

You see, that is what happens when we use wrong bombs.


25 posted on 02/24/2008 4:41:32 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: uncbob
Maybe if you were a mass murdering commie psychopath, you'd deserve it.
26 posted on 02/24/2008 4:41:54 PM PST by JasonC
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To: kronos77

I say we air drop in 1,000,000 M4 carbines and 1 billion rounds of ammunition, then fence the area off. Whoever wants it most will end up with it.


27 posted on 02/24/2008 4:42:34 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: JasonC
Maybe if you were a mass murdering commie psychopath, you'd deserve it.

I see you fell for the propaganda BS

Yep give Kosovo to the same nuts that were responsible for 911

makes sense tome
28 posted on 02/24/2008 4:49:38 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: uncbob
Absolutely!! Don’t give a damn for that God forsaken place.

But what is our solution now,

apologize to these drunkies and leave?

29 posted on 02/24/2008 4:51:13 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: Hardastarboard

Just don’t forget to nuke the place after all,

I’ve heard they know how to swim.


30 posted on 02/24/2008 4:54:36 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: kronos77

What the US really needs to do is to admit that we don’t give a sh*t what happens in the Balkans. Nothing good ever happened there.


31 posted on 02/24/2008 4:54:40 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Boundless

Ha ha! Your statement, not the fact that war could erupt.


32 posted on 02/24/2008 4:57:30 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: kronos77
It probably should be noted that the same parties to the Munich Pact which gave the Nazi’s the go ahead to invade Chechloslovakia are the exact same parties leading the Kosovo travesty.
33 posted on 02/24/2008 4:57:59 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: h2ny2
apologize to these drunkies and leave

If we could abandom South Vietnam we surely can tell the muslims to forget it we are GONE

We have enough problems in the ME

Let the Euroweenies worry about the balkans
34 posted on 02/24/2008 4:58:10 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: HAL9000
It’s better for NATO to remain in control of Kosovo.

You're joking right? NATO can't control anything but their own retreat in the face of an Islam invasion.

35 posted on 02/24/2008 5:01:09 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: uncbob
You would not believe how many people don’t realize that this all started because the muzzies were terrorizing the Christians.
36 posted on 02/24/2008 5:01:25 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: SpaceBar

I assume that you are referring to Clinton’s unilateral attack on a nation that was posing no threat to the United States.

Don’t forget the one who brought you to the dance.


37 posted on 02/24/2008 5:03:04 PM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: uncbob

here is the catch,

shovel-heads from the south did not burn our embassy.


38 posted on 02/24/2008 5:03:32 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: uncbob
The nuts responsible for 911 turned into fine dust on 911.

The folks who ordered it as hiding in northern Pakistan, having lost their countries.

Serbs, meanwhile, don't have a culture to worry about the origins of, are not Christian at all, are just a bunch of murdering commie goons, and I didn't have to fall for anything to know it. I watched them murder people for a decade, and I watched useful idiots like you make excuses for it.

But this, this is glorious. They richly deserve it, and as soon as it happened they showed their true colors instantly, dropped all the "it was all Slobo's fault" line and tried to burn our embassy to the ground. Now that they are out in the open for all to see, no American patriot is going to give them the time of day.

Serbs are the new Iranians. As Putin to get you back Kosovo. You'll only have to take over Europe first.

39 posted on 02/24/2008 5:05:06 PM PST by JasonC
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To: goodwithagun
Serbs aren't Christians, they are just commies with a Serbiabn flag stuck up their backsides. They wouldn't know a Christian sentiment if it bit them.
40 posted on 02/24/2008 5:06:59 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC

don’t know much about them, but amen to this.


41 posted on 02/24/2008 5:10:03 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: FormerLib

well worded though it’s a hsame that many of the public and most at the media have no idea or refuse to tell the people that it was actually albanians who started ethnic cleansing.

they are haiving a right laugh, they plot to our downfall and we support them in their ethinic cleansing along with their spreading of islam

amazing that wesley clark gets rewarded for a run at the presidency, clinton is hailed as a great president by the dims and now Bush thinks he’s mastered peace there

should be clinton and wesley clark in the hague on war crimes and ethnic cleansing, Bush should be well I’m speeachless whe it comes to his second term


42 posted on 02/24/2008 5:18:33 PM PST by manc
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

that would be christiana ammanpour

I remember her on the albania border saying how those poor albanian muslims were being treated yet she never showed the 200,000 serbs who had done the same before this, she never showed the many more thousands fleeing when serbia was bombed.

nah no bias from her or CNN on this was there

ARF


43 posted on 02/24/2008 5:20:39 PM PST by manc
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To: JasonC

Are you drunk?


44 posted on 02/24/2008 5:20:40 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: wildandcrazyrussian; JasonC

He’s a drunk muzzie and/or he just got dumped by some guy.


45 posted on 02/24/2008 5:24:36 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: JasonC

yea disgusting how they did things those serbs

I mena they were fighting a war against albanian muslims, and when they were winning against them clinton said hey lets do some muslims appeasment and also take the attention away from monic so we bomb them, help the albanina muslims do their ethnic cleansing and then reward the albanian muslims by giving a peice of christian land to them

still the serbs only lost thousenads thorugh clintons bombing, they only had their land taken away from them and so what if their economy was ruined and more peple had to flee their own country

ARF


46 posted on 02/24/2008 5:27:24 PM PST by manc
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To: JasonC

Sounds like you got something stuck up your backside too. A light bulb perhaps.


47 posted on 02/24/2008 5:28:03 PM PST by oilfieldtrash
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To: JasonC

you know twice you have said this

do you really believbe thaty serbs are not christians or are you looking for a reaction

just curious as you seem very anti serb yet very pro albanian muslims


48 posted on 02/24/2008 5:29:01 PM PST by manc
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
No. Are you a dedicated enemy of the United States and everyone in it?
49 posted on 02/24/2008 5:29:55 PM PST by JasonC
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To: manc
Here is a hint - when the US and the EU tell you to do something, bloody do it.

It isn't complicated.

50 posted on 02/24/2008 5:30:56 PM PST by JasonC
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