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Larry Sinclair: Obama Accuser Fails Polygraphs
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Posted on 02/24/2008 3:56:19 PM PST by hotdog777

The man who recently made allegations that Senator Barack Obama met him back in 1999 for sex n drugs in the back of limo has failed not one, but two polygraphs.

The site, Whitehouse.com, had offered Sinclair the sum of $10,000 to take a polygraph plus another check for $100,000 if he passed. To prove they were not bi-partisan the site also offered the woman at the center of the McCain lobbyist mini-scandal, Vicki Iseman, the same offer.

Whitehouse.com used the services of highly respected polygraph expert, Dr. Ed Gelb. Sinclair passed a drug test before taking the tests, both administered on Friday. On the first test, questions were administered about Sinclair’s claims that he and Obama had sex. The second test focused on Sinclair’s claims that he and Obama did drugs. Dr.Gelb found “deception was indicated” in both tests. Absent any other developments this is the end of the road for Larry Sinclair.

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As DBKP reported in its story yesterday, the supermarket tabloid, The Globe, had found additional information on Sinclair’s background. According the Globe, the 46-year-old ex-con Sinclair had spent time in prison for credit card fraud, had admitted being a dope smuggler and a “coyote”, a person who smuggles people into the country, for a price. What were the possible motives for Larry Sinclair?

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Larry Sinclair: Obama Accuser Fails Polygraphs


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KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; bimboeruption; husseinobama; larrysinclair; obama
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1 posted on 02/24/2008 3:56:20 PM PST by hotdog777
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To: hotdog777

Hey ten thousand bucks is ten thousand bucks...


2 posted on 02/24/2008 3:58:04 PM PST by Nachum
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To: hotdog777

Gee, I am shocked.


3 posted on 02/24/2008 3:58:18 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: hotdog777

So what was this guy’s motive? Who makes such accusations against himself, let alone Obama?


4 posted on 02/24/2008 3:59:30 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: hotdog777

5 posted on 02/24/2008 3:59:44 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: hotdog777
This accuser clearly has shoddy credibility. Failing 2 polygraphs isn't helping his case either.

We'd be best to steer away from this creep. Aside from the fact that his story is failing to pan out, this kind of "bad news" wouldn't sink Obama at all. As I've said before, the Democrats did not care in 1992 that Bill Clinton was fooling around. They won't care if Obama had done it either.

6 posted on 02/24/2008 3:59:44 PM PST by pnh102
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To: hotdog777
Even if he’d passed that alone wouldn’t be proof the event occurred. A delusional person can truly believe in events that never happened.
7 posted on 02/24/2008 4:00:30 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Nachum

Yes, the money was the motive for the polygraph I suppose. But what was the motive to make the accusation in the first place? Who was behind it, or did this genius come up with this all by himself?


8 posted on 02/24/2008 4:00:51 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: hotdog777

A polygraph is totally inaccurate. Larry could be telling a lie and the polygraph says he is telling the truth, or Larry could be telling the truth and and the polygraph says he is telling a lie.

They are worthless. What has to happen next is an investigation and questions addressed to Senator Obama.

The seriousness of the allegations trumps the questionability of Mr. Sinclair. It is only proper that Mr. Sinclair, the accuser, get as much attention to his complaint as those that have accused President Bush of have over the last several years.

Again, this polygraph neither PROVES nor DISPROVES anything as the left has been reminding us for a week now, just in case he passed it.......


9 posted on 02/24/2008 4:00:57 PM PST by HD1200
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To: pnh102

I agree.

I would like to know his motive for making this accusation, however.

Somehow, it doesn’t fit w/ who he is.


10 posted on 02/24/2008 4:01:30 PM PST by sauropod (Will Hillary bring the silver back to the Whitehouse, or is this all about finishing up the set?)
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To: hotdog777

Polygraphs don’t work.

On the other hand, I figured he was a liar all along.


11 posted on 02/24/2008 4:01:43 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: HD1200
The seriousness of the allegations trumps the questionability of Mr. Sinclair.

You sound like a Democrat. Specifically, Tom Foley.

12 posted on 02/24/2008 4:02:38 PM PST by sauropod (Will Hillary bring the silver back to the Whitehouse, or is this all about finishing up the set?)
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To: pnh102

This is brilliant—Obama has this creep make a rediculious claim and be found to be a lier. Now any with simular claims will not be believed! Even Slick Willie never did this. Give Obama points for brains. I bet there is a trunk full of dark things in Obama’s past.


13 posted on 02/24/2008 4:03:44 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: HD1200

I agree.


14 posted on 02/24/2008 4:04:48 PM PST by plain talk
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To: hotdog777

And thus proving the wisdom of FR in not letting to many of these stories run here.

It looked and smelled like a tar baby from the beginning.


15 posted on 02/24/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: HD1200
What has to happen next is an investigation and questions addressed to Senator Obama.

So a candidate has to address every nutball accusation with not a shred of evidence behind it?

16 posted on 02/24/2008 4:05:45 PM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: hotdog777

Not fake but accurate? I wonder how much the Clinton campaign paid this guy.


17 posted on 02/24/2008 4:06:27 PM PST by OCC
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To: HD1200
Sinclair himself set the bar for us to believe him. "Give e a polygraph" he said. Case closed based on his own standard.

If Obama is out doing this sort of thing there will be others. Sinclair failed his own test. I would still like to know why he did this. Was he just looking for attention? Was he part of a scheme to bring down Obama? What?

18 posted on 02/24/2008 4:06:51 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: HD1200

A polygraph is totally inaccurate. Larry could be telling a lie and the polygraph says he is telling the truth, or Larry could be telling the truth and and the polygraph says he is telling a lie.

They are worthless. What has to happen next is an investigation and questions addressed to Senator Obama.

The seriousness of the allegations trumps the questionability of Mr. Sinclair. It is only proper that Mr. Sinclair, the accuser, get as much attention to his complaint as those that have accused President Bush of have over the last several years.

Again, this polygraph neither PROVES nor DISPROVES anything as the left has been reminding us for a week now, just in case he passed it.......


I agree. Polygraphs are absolute junk

Any sociopath can beat them.

However, I think Sinclair’s background probably makes his Obama story a fraud...espeicllay if he was a convicted con man


19 posted on 02/24/2008 4:08:42 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (You know what they call a McCain supporter? A Liberal)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I’m pretty sure Hillary was gonna try it herself. Just couldn’t find anybody - male or female - will to say they’d had sex with her.


20 posted on 02/24/2008 4:09:45 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: mbraynard
So a candidate has to address every nutball accusation with not a shred of evidence behind it?

Unfortunately yes, assuming you realize your question was too exaggerated. The penalty for false accusations should be stiff. But the importance of knowing the truth cannot be overstated when you are talking about the person who will be the President of the United States for 4 years at least. That's a lot of power to hand someone without thoroughly investigating serious allegations.

21 posted on 02/24/2008 4:10:52 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Nachum
It’s not the nature of the evidence, it’s the seriousness of the charge....got it?
22 posted on 02/24/2008 4:11:43 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
What was he doing it for? Gee whiz, maybe because that's what he did. Just because a burned out doper homosexual fails a lie detector test, that doesn't mean he told a lie.

Over on the other end of Obama's speechwriter, campaign advisor Axelrod we find Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts. He's Obama's good buddy you know, and sometimes he delivers Axelrod's speeches first, and sometimes second, but whatever, he and Obama deliver the same speeches.

Anyway Deval's got a top level staffer who was picked up at the end of December for homosexual rape on a 15 year old boy.

Sex at both ends ~ could be?

23 posted on 02/24/2008 4:12:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: hotdog777
...the sum of $10,000 to take a polygraph plus another check for $100,000 if he passed

I wish someone would offer Huma the same deal

24 posted on 02/24/2008 4:12:53 PM PST by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"So what was this guy’s motive?"

He was hired by Osama to make the false claims, be branded a liar. This non truth will be offered as proof Osama is not a doper.

All subsequent efforts to expose Osama's character will reference this polygraph as if Hussein has passed it.

Yet, Hussein Osama is an admitted doper.

yitbos

25 posted on 02/24/2008 4:13:21 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

</S> oops


26 posted on 02/24/2008 4:13:23 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: HD1200
Yes, the seriousness of the allegation calls for the greatest level of scrutiny.

This should include DNA tests of Senator Obama's underwear.

27 posted on 02/24/2008 4:14:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: hotdog777

Obama is a damned socialist. That’s scandalous enough for me.


28 posted on 02/24/2008 4:14:16 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: cripplecreek

It is news that it happened, whether true or false.


29 posted on 02/24/2008 4:15:37 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bruinbirdman
He was hired by Osama to make the false claims, be branded a liar. This non truth will be offered as proof Osama is not a doper. All subsequent efforts to expose Osama's character will reference this polygraph as if Hussein has passed it. Yet, Hussein Osama is an admitted doper. yitbos

Could be, except I would think Obama's media darlings would have been more willing to report the story if that were the case. That theory assumes Obama wanted the story to get play time.

30 posted on 02/24/2008 4:19:44 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: HD1200
The seriousness of the allegations trumps the questionability of Mr. Sinclair.

You must be tom dasshole's long lost brother. That is stooping lower than the demorats.

31 posted on 02/24/2008 4:23:18 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
This is brilliant—Obama has this creep make a rediculious claim and be found to be a lier. Now any with simular claims will not be believed! Even Slick Willie never did this. Give Obama points for brains. I bet there is a trunk full of dark things in Obama’s past.

I honestly always thought that this was a clinton hit job, but one poorly done.

Obama has dirt, Hillary has slung plenty of it at him, but he's been teflon to her.

32 posted on 02/24/2008 4:25:38 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: hotdog777
I was skeptical of Sinclair from the onset. However, before the MSM and liberals will ever go after Obama only if there is a videotape of him having sex and them proving his DNA all over the clothes and sheets.
33 posted on 02/24/2008 4:26:04 PM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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To: hotdog777

Whoops.


34 posted on 02/24/2008 4:26:18 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: Brilliant

Polygraphs most certainly do work.

They are a stable of investigations and are considered by those who do this for a living as very reliable.

Whenever people don’t like the outcome of a polygraph they just, boom, state as if all the knowledge in the world were in their considerable brains....”Polygraphs don’t work.”

They’re not admissible in court and perhaps they shouldn’t be.

But they work quite reliably most of the time.

I base my assertion on the fact that the way vast majority of law enforcement organizations in this country use polygraphs as does the FBI.

On what basis is your assertion that....boom...they don’t work?


35 posted on 02/24/2008 4:28:34 PM PST by Fishtalk (If you liked the above post, remember I've got a Blog you might like to visit.)
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To: hotdog777

More wasted Clinton campaign cash.


36 posted on 02/24/2008 4:28:50 PM PST by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: bruinbirdman
He was hired by Osama to make the false claims, be branded a liar. This non truth will be offered as proof Osama is not a doper.

I heard more about this guy from Clinton supporters then anywhere else.

Obama basically ignored this guy, I always thought he was a clinton plant, but no one really cared.

If he had been paid by the Obama campaign, they would have acknowledged him by both claiming he is lying and working for a rival campaign, and then they would have been trumping this lie detector as de facto evidence that the guy is a liar.

Instead they acted like didn't exist.

37 posted on 02/24/2008 4:30:31 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: hotdog777

No surprise. This was moonbat stuff from the go.


38 posted on 02/24/2008 4:35:50 PM PST by newzjunkey (Why McCain in Nov? Clintons hated and dismantled the military; Obama is even worse!)
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To: Sonny M
Instead they acted like didn't exist.

That seems like it was the wisest thing to do. Obama obviously knew it didn't happen and making unnecessary noise about it would be like dumping gasoline on hot cols that would burn themselves out otherwise.
39 posted on 02/24/2008 4:36:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: hotdog777

Some Freeper posers are disappointed.


40 posted on 02/24/2008 4:39:14 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: hotdog777

So Sinclair blew the polygraph?


41 posted on 02/24/2008 4:40:42 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Fishtalk
They are a stable of investigations and are considered by those who do this for a living as very reliable.

Psychics also consider what they purport to do as "very reliable".

I base my assertion on the fact that the way vast majority of law enforcement organizations in this country use polygraphs as does the FBI.

LE and FBI also use crackhead lowlife as "reliable informants"

42 posted on 02/24/2008 4:45:22 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: Fishtalk

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1203681407


43 posted on 02/24/2008 4:48:22 PM PST by rolling_stone (same)
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To: pnh102

This is the type of scum that attack Obama with crap about his being a muslim or took the oath of office on a koran or won.t pledge to the flag we all love. Lets argue issues like NAFTA and the loss of AMERICA to CHINA and Mexico but lets get off this crap that Sinclair was vomiting.


44 posted on 02/24/2008 4:48:43 PM PST by joebeth
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Yeah, it is weird. Because when he started this in September, Obama wasn’t a phenomenon. It is strange. I am interested in seeing what the points of deception were on the two exams.


45 posted on 02/24/2008 4:53:55 PM PST by Pinetop
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To: joebeth

I agree, its time to end the tabloid crap and talk about issues.


46 posted on 02/24/2008 4:56:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: pnh102

“We’d be best to steer away from this creep. Aside from the fact that his story is failing to pan out, this kind of “bad news” wouldn’t sink Obama at all. As I’ve said before, the Democrats did not care in 1992 that Bill Clinton was fooling around. They won’t care if Obama had done it either.”

True that...and if it was true that it was with a man it would be glorified into he’s open to all the contingents of the party...


47 posted on 02/24/2008 4:57:41 PM PST by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: HD1200
A polygraph is totally inaccurate. Larry could be telling a lie and the polygraph says he is telling the truth, or Larry could be telling the truth and and the polygraph says he is telling a lie

I agree 100%, how do I know? I failed one, and I was telling the absolute truth. They are worthless.
48 posted on 02/24/2008 4:59:59 PM PST by VastRWCon (Fred/Hunter 2008)
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To: Fishtalk
They are a stable of investigations and are considered by those who do this for a living as very reliable.

what you just said, please read between the lines, looks more like JOB SECURITY to me.

My opion they dont work and are not reliable, how do I know? It didn't work on me. I told the truth and failed.
49 posted on 02/24/2008 5:02:29 PM PST by VastRWCon (Fred/Hunter 2008)
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To: hotdog777
Whitehouse.com, had offered Sinclair the sum of $10,000 to take a polygraph

OK, my turn!

50 posted on 02/24/2008 5:03:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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