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In Kosovo, sacrificing principles for oil
Tribune Democrat ^ | February 22, 2008 | ZACHARY HUBBARD

Posted on 02/24/2008 6:45:42 PM PST by Bokababe

Once again the Bush administration is sacrificing its conservative principles to satisfy our nation’s seeming insatiable thirst for foreign oil.

The latest victims of our oil lust are the ethnic Serbs living in Kosovo. Until Feb. 18, Kosovo was part of Serbia. That changed overnight when Kosovo unilaterally declared independence.

The United States, Germany and the United Kingdom were quick to recognize Kosovo’s declaration. Russia and Serbia flatly rejected it.

Yes, folks, Kosovo’s independence is all about oil – at least from a Western perspective.

In a press release that gleaned little media attention in the United States, Switzerland’s Manas Petroleum Corp. announced on Jan. 10 that “Independent resource evaluation confirms existence of giant oil and gas prospects on Manas Petroleum’s Albanian exploration blocks.”

The announcement indicated that there are potentially 3 billion barrels of oil and 3 trillion cubic feet of natural gas in the areas explored. Some of these areas lie near Albania’s border with Kosovo.

Kosovo’s population is about 90 percent ethnic Albanian. The remaining 10 percent are nearly all ethnic Serbs. Under Tito, in the former Yugoslavia, Kosovo was a semi-autonomous region which enjoyed special political privileges in the Yugoslav system.

During the breakup of Yugoslavia, Serbia’s President Slobodon Milosevic stripped Kosovo of its autonomy and kept a tight grip on the ethnic Albanians through an internal security force composed almost exclusively of Serbs.

Serb domination of Kosovo ended when a NATO occupation force, the Kosovo Force (KFOR), forcibly interposed itself between the ethnic Albanians and Serb forces.

For the Serbs, Kosovo is a place of religious history and national pride. If the Serbs had an Alamo, it would be located in Kosovo. There, in an area that has become known as the Field of Blackbirds, thousands of Serbian “warrior saints” stood their ground in the 1389 Battle of Kosovo Polje, only to be slaughtered by the invading Ottoman Turks.

The Serbs continued to resist the Turks during the ensuing five centuries of Ottoman domination, which did not end until 1912, when Serbia, Montenegro, Greece and Bulgaria defeated the Ottomans in the First Balkans War. To this day, the Serbs view themselves as defenders of Christianity who held the line against the incursion of Islam into Western Europe.

During that famous battle, ethnic Albanians fought side by side with the Serbs against the Ottoman invaders. But during the subsequent years of Turkish rule, most Albanians adopted Islam, while the Serbs clung to their Orthodox Christian tradition. Today, Kosovo is the historical seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

During the aftermath of the breakup of Yugoslavia, rampaging ethnic Albanians reportedly destroyed more than 100 Orthodox monasteries and churches in Kosovo, some of which were nearly 1,000 years old. The UK Independent reported in November 1999 that the Albanian destruction of Serb holy sites in Kosovo continued even after NATO’s KFOR arrived.

Kosovo’s neighbor, Albania, is currently struggling to integrate with Western Europe. Islam in Albania today is something less than radical. In fact, the number of Christians in Albania may be nearly even with the number of Muslims.

However, the Brussels-based International Crisis Group (ICG), a nonprofit, independent, nongovernmental organization that works to resolve world conflicts through diplomacy, reported in July 2006 that “a tiny but growing minority (in Albania) is turning toward Wahhabi Islam.”

This could spell future trouble for the West. The Wahhabis are a violent, extremist sect of Islam that originated in Saudi Arabia in the 18th century. It has been argued that Osama bin Laden had gravitated toward Wahhabi beliefs prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

It appears the West sold out the Kosovo Serbs in order to gain assured access to Albania’s newly discovered petroleum reserves. Albania’s strategic location on the Adriatic Sea guarantees the West easy access to Albanian oil, without having to deal with unsavory governments.

In the coming months, look for a growing political support for Kosovo’s union with Albania to form a Greater Albania, something that would have been unimaginable only a few years ago.

The West will sit idly by as Albania expands its borders, knowing that a Greater Albania will be inclined to sell oil to the West and is not likely to be influenced by the Serbs and Russians.

After Kosovo, the next target for Albania will probably be its neighbor, the Republic of Macedonia. Ethnic Albanians make up nearly a third of the Macedonian population.

While it is doubtful that a Greater Albania could gobble up all of Macedonia, it may attempt to annex the ethnic Albanian areas of Macedonia contiguous to the Albania-Macedonia border.

Macedonia might just allow this to occur in order to hasten its admission to the European Union.

Zachary Hubbard is a retired Army officer residing in Upper Yoder Township. He served as the chief of intelligence assessments and senior Balkans intelligence analyst for the NATO Stabilization Force in the former Yugoslavia. Hubbard is a member of The Tribune-Democrat’s Readership Advisory Committee.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; clintonswar; islam; kosovo; oil; serbia
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http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080110426/Region/Vast-oil-reserves-found-in-northern-Albania.html

What do you bet that they have already more found oil & gas in Kosovo?

1 posted on 02/24/2008 6:45:45 PM PST by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 02/24/2008 6:47:42 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Yes, folks, Kosovo’s independence is all about oil – at least from a Western perspective.
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If true.....this is sickening.


3 posted on 02/24/2008 6:48:27 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Bokababe

I have read of multiple mines of minerals and coal. Tons of coal, but never anything about Oil and gas deposits in Kosovo. The knowledge of these deposits had to have been confirmed at least in the mid ‘90’s for what has happened since, and until now.

This will be interesting to watch.


4 posted on 02/24/2008 6:53:24 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch
There's some interesting info on this link
5 posted on 02/24/2008 6:56:28 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

It is absolutely true that they discovered oil & gas in “Northern Albania”, along the Kosovo border http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080110426/Region/Vast-oil-reserves-found-in-northern-Albania.html
I have little doubt that it is Kosovo. Rebecca West, in the late 1930’s mentioned that “oil was bubbling out of the ground” where she sat.


6 posted on 02/24/2008 6:59:12 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
the Brussels-based International Crisis Group (ICG), a nonprofit, independent, nongovernmental organization that works to resolve world conflicts through diplomacy, reported in July 2006 that “a tiny but growing minority (in Albania) is turning toward Wahhabi Islam.”

ICG is a Soros org. So we should listen to Soros propaganda as long as it is anti-Albanian, right?

7 posted on 02/24/2008 6:59:22 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

And of course the same ‘Anti-War’ folks who chant ‘no blood for oil’ were just thrilled when the blood being shed as Serbian, shed by NATO bombs.

Our local “Campaign for Peace and Justice” which has opposed every US military action made an exception for murdering Orthodox Christian from 15,000 feet.


8 posted on 02/24/2008 7:00:38 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Bokababe
The announcement indicated that there are potentially 3 billion barrels of oil and 3 trillion cubic feet of natural gas in the areas explored. Some of these areas lie near Albania’s border with Kosovo.

Drop in the Bucket

ANWR is estimated to have 15 Billion bbls

9 posted on 02/24/2008 7:03:48 PM PST by Species8472 (John Kerry was a war hero too....)
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To: Bokababe
I am getting very tired of reading about Bush at the root of all that is wrong with the world. I suspect this is the same BS that says that the only reason we are in Iraq is for the oil. I thought that the Iraqis were selling it on the world market, how dumb can I be.
10 posted on 02/24/2008 7:05:23 PM PST by ANGGAPO ( is for the oil.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The rest of the story there bub: they used that little piece of propaganda to demand independence for Kosovo—

NO independecce more wahhabi...Blackmail!!

And we got both.


11 posted on 02/24/2008 7:07:40 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"ICG is a Soros org. So we should listen to Soros propaganda as long as it is anti-Albanian, right?"

Soros wants Kosovo Independence. Soros pushed for it, financed it. This guys isn't speaking FOR Soros. The ICG quote says "a tiny but growing minority (in Albania) is turning toward Wahhabi Islam.” It's likely that it is not so "tiny".

12 posted on 02/24/2008 7:09:24 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Maybe you should get a better source than a commie NGO which has George Soros on the Executive Committee.
13 posted on 02/24/2008 7:12:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Bokababe

“Moscow argued that those nations supporting the Kosovo split should have foreseen an angry Serb backlash. ... improved, with giant Gazprom buying Serbia’s main oil company NIS last month. The two countries have ... reservoir and the other on building a pipeline through Serbia to pump Russian gas to ...” IT IS NOT ABOUT SERBIA, IT IS ABOUT RUSSIA, AND THEIR ATTEMPT TO BUILD A PIPELINE THROUGH SERBIA.


14 posted on 02/24/2008 7:12:50 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: ANGGAPO

Agreed. Although I disagree with our current policy in that area I’m pretty sick and tired of having some left wing org imply that everything is about oil. If these groups had the courage of their rhetoric they would be calling for the US to exploit it’s own reserves. The fact that they oppose that tells me it’s just propaganda.


15 posted on 02/24/2008 7:13:27 PM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: Species8472
"Drop in the Bucket. ANWR is estimated to have 15 Billion bbls"

And we will drill there soon? Not likely.

16 posted on 02/24/2008 7:13:34 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Absolutely not true—Gazprom wants a pipeline through Kosovo—there is no exploration in Kosovo as far as I know..


17 posted on 02/24/2008 7:14:23 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Bokababe

You mean like Jed Clampett


18 posted on 02/24/2008 7:15:23 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Zachary Hubbard is a retired Army officer residing in Upper Yoder Township. He served as the chief of intelligence assessments and senior Balkans intelligence analyst for the NATO Stabilization Force in the former Yugoslavia."

And THIS makes the guy "a commie". You took one tiny quote out of a retired Army officer's article re "Wahhabi Albanians" and turned into he's a Soros "commie"? You've got a screw loose.

19 posted on 02/24/2008 7:18:04 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Believe propaganda from Soros NGO’s all you want. Just don’t expect the rest of us to side with foreigners against our own country just because you and Soros say we should.


20 posted on 02/24/2008 7:24:25 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: richardtavor
"You mean like Jed Clampett"

Yes, in the book , "Black Lamb, Grey Falcon" that is pretty much how Rebecca West described it. The entire book was about her travels as an English woman through pre-WWII Yugoslavia.

21 posted on 02/24/2008 7:25:56 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Believe propaganda from Soros NGO’s all you want. Just don’t expect the rest of us to side with foreigners against our own country just because you and Soros say we should.”

Who funds John McCain’s Reform Institute?

Can you say “Soros”?


22 posted on 02/24/2008 7:29:30 PM PST by Catulus
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Believe propaganda from Soros NGO’s all you want. Just don’t expect the rest of us to side with foreigners against our own country just because you and Soros say we should."

The Soros slime is coming out of your mouth, not the author's and not mine.

You can take out your prayer rug now.

23 posted on 02/24/2008 7:35:35 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: dynachrome; SpaceBar

Wasn’t Savage talking about this a few nights ago? Something about pipelines thru Kosovo???


24 posted on 02/24/2008 7:36:31 PM PST by do not press 2 for spanish
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To: Bokababe
You are the one who posted this article which uses Soros org propaganda.

Please stop promoting George Soros talking points at FR in defense of your anti-American foreign agenda.

While you're at it, please stop stinking up America with your treason. Put your money where your mouth is. Go to Serbia where your allegiance lies and don't come back.

25 posted on 02/24/2008 7:38:49 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: shuckmaster

Thanks for the link. I read all the key words that tell me the link is to an alarmist, Leftist, BS site. “Halliburton”, “Kellog etc.”, “Gunboat Diplomacy”, “War for Oil”, etc., yet when I visit site after site in random search pattern I cannot find any other information about this supposed camp being anything other than what it apparently is. A military camp.

I’ll keep looking around to see if I can find anymore information about this as it is truly interesting to me to know why in the “H” we got involved in fighting over there in the first place. I just don’t trust much of the opinion I see coming from the Left, or the Right. Somewhere, somehow I will find out the truth of WHY.


26 posted on 02/24/2008 7:42:36 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Bokababe
Once again the Bush administration is sacrificing its conservative principles to satisfy our nation’s seeming insatiable thirst for foreign oil.

Patently untrue leftist propaganda.

Not enough oil to worry about.

We never are in it for, or ever get, the oil of the left's standard Marxist accusation.

The Bush Administration, and Bush, is not conservative.

The Bush Administration sacrifices conservative principles for no reason, not horse manure like this.

Our economy will run just fine on any oil, only the leftie envirowackos insatiably thirst for FOREIGN oil.

27 posted on 02/24/2008 7:49:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Put your money where your mouth is. Go to Serbia where your allegiance lies and don't come back."

I've never set foot in Serbia. I am an American and my family never came from Serbia. My allegiance lies with America & what she once stood for in the world --truth, decency & values that were worthy of respect. But she has been hijacked by some very ruthless global interests, and as American patriots, it is our job to point out where she has gone wrong to put her right. It's a messy thankless job, but we all bring what we have to the job. I have knowledge of the Balkans. I don't claim to know a rat's behind about Iraq or Afghanistan, so I don't talk about it. I talk about this because this is what I know because I have studied it from many sides.

Got a problem with that, take it up with the management.

28 posted on 02/24/2008 7:49:46 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: do not press 2 for spanish
"Wasn’t Savage talking about this a few nights ago? Something about pipelines thru Kosovo???"

Yes, Michael Savage has known that something has not been right about all of this for a long time. Guess that makes Michael Savage a "Soros commie" in TGJ's pro-Albanian book

29 posted on 02/24/2008 7:59:48 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: do not press 2 for spanish
Wasn’t Savage talking about this a few nights ago? Something about pipelines thru Kosovo???

Surely you don't mean...

The Oily Tracks Running Through Kosovo
by Michael Savage
(Originally published 11/20/99 by Newsmax.com)


?
30 posted on 02/24/2008 8:21:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Bokababe
... and then I climbed on the gook's anti-aircraft cannon to show that i love my country ... ... oh am I in the wrong fairy tail ?
31 posted on 02/24/2008 8:24:39 PM PST by h2ny2
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To: Species8472; Bokababe
I'd have to do some digging but IIRC the breakup of the Milosevic regime was in part due to globalists desire of oil/gas PIPELINE stability and privatization.
32 posted on 02/24/2008 9:07:51 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Bokababe
If there is oil there then my guess is that this is about keeping it OFF the market in order to keep prices high enough to fund our enemies.

I know that sounds weird, but that's how it works NWO.

33 posted on 02/24/2008 9:16:52 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Bokababe

The Trans Balkan AMBO Pipeline, the President of Albania, and Kosovo
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3793a582649e.htm


34 posted on 02/24/2008 9:36:34 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix; Tailgunner Joe
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39a045bc5406.htm

I may find the whole thread revealing.

TGJ, IMO the plan for Kosovo independence is a bastard child of our communist infested DOS. Just because the Russians don't like it doesn't mean it's in our interest.

35 posted on 02/24/2008 9:47:17 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Bokababe
" Islam in Albania today is something less than radical."

Yet in the article it lists the "Greater Albanian" plan of swallowing up Kosovo and Macedonia.

36 posted on 02/24/2008 10:54:52 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for the post. I don’t buy into these oil/Saudi connections yet, maybe for lack of understanding. I do try to be on the right side of every matter. Until some information says otherwise, what’s happening to the Serbs is wrong. Nobody’s stepped up to articulate some justification for the gutting of Serbia.

Until I learn otherwise, I’ll follow my instincts, driven by the information available and common sense, and fight hard (within legal limits) for the Serbs.


37 posted on 02/24/2008 11:00:07 PM PST by fire and forget
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...treason...

That's a very inflammatory charge you're making there chief.

38 posted on 02/24/2008 11:10:17 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: h2ny2
"... and then I climbed on the gook's anti-aircraft cannon to show that i love my country ... ... oh am I in the wrong fairy tail ?"

You've been here for what -- two days? Use terms like "tribal monkeys" & "shovel heads", and start insulting people. Think that you might want to learn some manners when introducing yourself. Or is this your "best behavior" and highest level of contribution & it's downhill from here?

39 posted on 02/24/2008 11:52:52 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: endthematrix
" Islam in Albania today is something less than radical."

"Yet in the article it lists the "Greater Albanian" plan of swallowing up Kosovo and Macedonia.

And they have destroyed over 150 Christian churches So if this is "less than radical", then what?

40 posted on 02/24/2008 11:57:07 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: richardtavor
"Absolutely not true—Gazprom wants a pipeline through Kosovo—there is no exploration in Kosovo as far as I know.."

The Gazprom pipeline deal was already sealed with Serbia proper a month ago to go through Bulgaria and Nis, Serbia, NOT through Kosovo.

41 posted on 02/25/2008 12:04:58 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

sorry if I hurt your feelings,

why don’t you suggest some appropriate name for

those “humanoids” that we saw on the TV couple days ago and I will use it

I have very little respect for people who don’t respect me and my country,

so I find gooks, towel heads or your tribal monkeys appropriate.


42 posted on 02/25/2008 12:09:19 AM PST by h2ny2
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To: Bokababe
I know.

On the energy front:

Clinton, Stoyanov announce Southeast Europe Action Plan (1998)

“They also have a common interest in expanding mutual trade and investment and encouraging the development of multiple routes for energy from the Caspian Basin.”

On the Globalism/EU/NATO front:

“These bilateral and multilateral initiatives will advance our shared goal of a Europe whole, free and at peace. They will also promote the integration of Bulgaria and the other stable democracies of Southeastern Europe into the European and transatlantic mainstream.”

On the military front:

Rice Signs U.S. Shared-Base Agreement with Bulgaria (2006)

SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE
AFTER NATO MINISTERIAL MEETING
Sofia, Bulgaria in 2006

“We are always reminded of what a tremendously successful alliance NATO has been, an alliance that was, of course, born of the Cold War, born at a time when Europe faced a threat of Soviet Union and Soviet Communism, but an alliance that has made the transition at the end of the Cold War to an institution that has played a very large part in conjunction with, for instance, the European Union in providing an umbrella for the democratic transitions that have taken place throughout Eastern and Central Europe and has contributed, therefore, mightily to the development of a Europe that is whole and free and at peace.”

43 posted on 02/25/2008 12:19:45 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Bokababe

If conservatives said Tawain should remain China the author would have a point.


44 posted on 02/25/2008 3:21:38 AM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great for the libs why is Obama doing so well?)
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To: SpaceBar

Yes. Once again, he calls it.


45 posted on 02/25/2008 4:31:04 AM PST by do not press 2 for spanish
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To: Bokababe

Whoa; missed your “line of reasoning” completely. He’s the anti-Soros if this Nation has one...


46 posted on 02/25/2008 4:32:40 AM PST by do not press 2 for spanish
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To: do not press 2 for spanish
"Whoa; missed your “line of reasoning” completely. He’s the anti-Soros if this Nation has one..."

Yes, Savage is completely anti-Soros. And this article goes against everything Soros wants too, but TGJ slimed it as being "Soros propaganda", so I was being facetious. Like if this ex-army officer is "a Soros commie" then so is Michael Savage" because he agrees with him.

47 posted on 02/25/2008 9:38:43 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
sacrificing its conservative principles to satisfy our nation’s seeming insatiable thirst for foreign oil.

The pipeline will run through Kosovo directly to Washington DC. The sky will open and oil will rain down on the White House. < / Hillary!08 >

48 posted on 02/25/2008 9:41:25 AM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: do not press 2 for spanish

correct. Doc Savage ahead of the curve again.


49 posted on 02/25/2008 2:56:47 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Dude, you’re joking right? Because your posts are hilarious! Please tell me you’re joking.


50 posted on 02/25/2008 3:09:05 PM PST by drew
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