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Police: Teen Shot Over Snowball Fight
CBS 3 NEWS ^ | Feb 25, 2008

Posted on 02/25/2008 6:04:37 AM PST by Sopater

A Philadelphia teenager celebrating his 16th birthday is fighting for his life after a shooting over a snowball fight.

Authorities said the Feltonville teen, identified as Tavin Rutledge, was shot in the head at point-blank range while playing with neighborhood friends in the 4800 block of D Street.

Witnesses say the shooting was sparked from a casual snowball fight amongst children.

"Everyone was playing and throwing snowballs and one little boy ran and got his dad. His dad came around with a gun and shot him," said Renay Reeves, Tavin's aunt.

Police said an adult male used a gun to express anger over an errant snowball.

Family and friends celebrating Tavin's birthday heard the gunshots and ran to his side.

"We ran outside and saw Tavin laying on the step," said the victim's friend Mercedes Lebron. "When I picked him up, smoke stared coming out of his head … He still was breathing and we told him keep breathing, calm down."

Tavin was rushed to Temple University hospital where he was placed on life-support. As of Monday morning he remained in critical condition.

"He was a nice boy. He was a very cute boy. Everybody liked him, he was funny," said Reeves.

Philadelphia police detectives said they are actively searching for the gunman and are pursuing several good leads.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
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The little kid's dad should have just given him a white-wash or something. That's how we handled "errant" snowballs. Very effective and no-one gets hurt.
1 posted on 02/25/2008 6:04:38 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Keepin’ it real.


2 posted on 02/25/2008 6:05:23 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Sopater

Never EVER Bring a snowball to a gun fight.


3 posted on 02/25/2008 6:06:42 AM PST by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: Sopater

I’m not going to say it.


4 posted on 02/25/2008 6:07:15 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: Sopater
ok... you want to explain “white-wash” to us Southerners?:”)
5 posted on 02/25/2008 6:08:04 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: bmwcyle

Wow....

Unless they were trying to pummel the kid to death with ice balls....


6 posted on 02/25/2008 6:08:42 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The kid probably should’ve thrown his snowballs at police cars, as we did on the S. Side of Chicago. Safer.


7 posted on 02/25/2008 6:08:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: meyer

You just wait. Someone is going to post you that you made jokes and this is serious stuff.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 6:10:55 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Sopater
I'm not sure what a white-wash is, but there was an older guy in my neighborhood when I was a kid who would go outside and spray kids with a hose when snowballs started hitting his house.

Having your hair and hat soaked with cold water in 40 degree weather inspires you to stop throwing snowballs and get home to dry off.

9 posted on 02/25/2008 6:11:39 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Sopater

What’s a white-wash? (so.cal. native)


10 posted on 02/25/2008 6:13:09 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: CindyDawg
Ususally resulted in the following condition:


11 posted on 02/25/2008 6:13:45 AM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Sopater

Really odd story. Wonder if there is more to it than what is in this article?


12 posted on 02/25/2008 6:17:22 AM PST by Dustbunny ((Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: CindyDawg

whitewash.. when I was growing up it meant getting a nice bug chunk of snow in one hand (if the snow was a little damp and good for throwing), then chasing the offender down, restraining their arms your free arm, and smearing their face with the snow. Or, if the snow was too powdery, you’d chase someone down, tackle them, then half push their face in the powder with one hand and lift and smear powder on it with the other.
Reliably not too pleasant a thing to have done to you, but it does beat a hard thrown snowball to the face. Or a bullet for that matter D-:<


13 posted on 02/25/2008 6:17:24 AM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Sopater
Nothing in Phily surprises me. The mayor will just add this one to his “bad week” routine.
14 posted on 02/25/2008 6:18:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Dustbunny
I agree that it's an odd story. Here's the oddest part:

one little boy ran and got his dad.

I didn't know you could do that in Philadelphia.

15 posted on 02/25/2008 6:20:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Sopater

So much for the “City of Brotherly Love”


16 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:54 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: verum ago

Ah...a mud bath:’)


17 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:55 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

doesn’t last as long as a mud bath, but get enough snow on their bare skin and it will sting mercilessly for a few minutes afterward.


18 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:04 AM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

My grandmother saved some snowballs for my boys. She kept them in the freezer. I was a “meanie” for taking them away before the kids seriously hurt each other:’)


19 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:20 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Sopater

Hmmmmm. Good thing Santa wasn’t packing an UZI in his bag of goodies at that Eagles game then.


20 posted on 02/25/2008 6:25:34 AM PST by Into the Vortex
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To: Dustbunny

Really odd story. Wonder if there is more to it than what is in this article?


I’d have to know more details, like the ages, and other circumstances. For instance, if a 16-year-old built like Barry Bonds was throwing ice-balls at my 7-year old, I might get quite irate.

I grew up in snow country, and can report that not all snowball tossing events are love-fests.


21 posted on 02/25/2008 6:26:05 AM PST by Beelzebubba (Waiting for tagline...)
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To: verum ago

no kidding. We had a 100 year snow (on Christmas day) a few years ago. I hadn’t realized how cold it was. I made gloves out of socks for my grandsons but their hands still got cold.


22 posted on 02/25/2008 6:26:29 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: 1rudeboy

A kid throwing a snowball at a cop car these days can expect to be tasered.


23 posted on 02/25/2008 6:26:45 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Squawk 8888

I thought of that right after I hit “Post.” :)


24 posted on 02/25/2008 6:27:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Sopater

Good lord, I hope the poor boy survives.


25 posted on 02/25/2008 6:28:08 AM PST by cake_crumb (Don't vote Romney in your primary unless you WANT his delegates to go to McCain.)
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To: Sopater

Guns are just too easy to get and need to be banned!


26 posted on 02/25/2008 6:29:02 AM PST by umgud
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To: Sopater
Why do I get the feeling that “4800 block of D Street” is not a place you want to go unless you have an up-armored HUMVEE?
27 posted on 02/25/2008 6:30:39 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Sopater

Only in KILL-a-delphia.


28 posted on 02/25/2008 6:31:31 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: umgud

I assume you forgot the sarcasm tag?


29 posted on 02/25/2008 6:32:36 AM PST by Jackson57
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To: CindyDawg
yeah.. if it gets truely, well, wintry, nothing short of purpose built clothing and accessories will stave off hypothermia and extremities going numb. And sometimes it's just too cold even to prevent that. I love skiing, but if not on the slopes or tossing a few snowballs, I most appreciate the beauty of snow from the other side of a window..
30 posted on 02/25/2008 6:32:48 AM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Beelzebubba
"I grew up in snow country, and can report that not all snowball tossing events are love-fests."

Yep...I grew up in snow country as well. When properly packed with gravel and/or ice-hardened, a strongly thrown snowball would probably do at least as much damage as a baseball.

31 posted on 02/25/2008 6:33:51 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Beelzebubba

Yeah, like did he just walk up and shoot a funny, sweet, innocent kid or did they get into it first? Was the dad threatened? The kid armed?


32 posted on 02/25/2008 6:33:54 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Dustbunny

Possibly not. Some adults have less self control than the average child. There was a story from last year where a man shot some kids with a shotgun for throwing snowballs at his house.


33 posted on 02/25/2008 6:35:10 AM PST by cake_crumb (Don't vote Romney in your primary unless you WANT his delegates to go to McCain.)
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To: Beelzebubba

yeah.. my next door neighbor taught me the hard way that an iceball can feel like a baseball hitting you.. a baseball with jagged edges. Good thing I have two older, bigger brothers :), who ‘convinced’ him that he shouldn’t do it again.


34 posted on 02/25/2008 6:35:55 AM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 02/25/2008 6:36:02 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: verum ago
Some place, somewhere there is probably a politician that got “white washed” when he was a child. He is writing a bill, banning snowball fights.
36 posted on 02/25/2008 6:39:28 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Don Corleone
So much for the “City of Brotherly Love”

A buddy of mine who is originally from Philly refers to it as the "City of Brother Shove".

37 posted on 02/25/2008 6:41:42 AM PST by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: Sopater
"His dad came around with a gun and shot him"

The article doesn't say what time this happened. Might not of been about snowballs, as much as noise.

In some 'hoods, if there is a 'daddy', de don't be like be'n woken up befo 3pm as de be got bidness late ta da night and all.'

38 posted on 02/25/2008 6:47:26 AM PST by Leisler
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Sounds like ‘the bruthas’ are acting like they normally do....


39 posted on 02/25/2008 6:49:16 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: meyer
Never EVER Bring a snowball to a gun fight.

Uh, I think in this case it's more like "Never EVER bring a gun to a snowball fight.

40 posted on 02/25/2008 6:53:39 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Even then....wow.


41 posted on 02/25/2008 7:00:09 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: meyer

After the cops and courts get done with this guy, it going to be “Don’t bring a gun to a snowball fight.”


42 posted on 02/25/2008 7:02:24 AM PST by Little Ray (So its McCain or Huckabee? Pass me the bloody KoolAid.)
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To: Jackson57
I assume you forgot the sarcasm tag?

Did I really need it?

43 posted on 02/25/2008 7:17:59 AM PST by umgud
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To: Sopater

I call for a ban of snow, as there is no legitimate reason for civilians to have access to snow.

Snow is the cause of all of this.


44 posted on 02/25/2008 7:21:15 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: Dustbunny

Nah. In Philly people get shot when they park in a spot that someone else has shoveled out from a snowdrift.


45 posted on 02/25/2008 7:27:21 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: meyer

An ill thought out statement.


46 posted on 02/25/2008 7:50:54 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Nothing in Phily surprises me.”

Me neither.

I had an acquaintance who was shot there while standing on a sidewalk waiting for a cab.

F’ing savages in a concrete jungle.


47 posted on 02/25/2008 8:20:39 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: EEDUDE

They had five shootings a week ago and the best the mayor could come up with was “a bad week.”


48 posted on 02/25/2008 8:38:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Sopater

Shooter should be castrated with no anesthetic.


49 posted on 02/25/2008 9:50:42 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: em2vn
An ill thought out statement.

Perhaps...

Though I'd consider any fight in Philly to be a gun fight even if guns hadn't been drawn yet.

50 posted on 02/25/2008 1:09:58 PM PST by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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