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Iraqi to Return Home, as a U.S. Soldier
Primetime Politics ^ | 02/25/2008 | Clarke Canfield

Posted on 02/25/2008 6:56:48 AM PST by moderatewolverine

Safaa Wadi moved to this former mill city after his life was threatened in his native Iraq while serving as an interpreter for the U.S. Army. He expects to soon head back to Iraq — not as a civilian interpreter, but as a U.S. soldier.

Wadi arrived in the United States in September with a special immigrant visa for Iraqi and Afghan interpreters. But with his savings nearly depleted and unable to land a decent job, Wadi enlisted in the Army. He begins training in South Carolina on Monday.

Wadi isn't worried about returning to Iraq, where many of his countrymen considered him a traitor because he worked with American forces. His allegiance is now to the United States, he says.

"I want to serve this country because this country returned to me my life," Wadi said. "If I had stayed in Iraq, I'd be dead now."

(Excerpt) Read more at primetimepolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; iraq; naturalization; soldier; terror; war

1 posted on 02/25/2008 6:56:50 AM PST by moderatewolverine
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To: moderatewolverine

The right kind of immigrant.


2 posted on 02/25/2008 7:01:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: moderatewolverine

Wow!! That is a powerful message. Good for him. And for us.


3 posted on 02/25/2008 7:04:05 AM PST by SueRae
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To: moderatewolverine

God Bless and protect him. His bravery and skill will advance America’s and Iraq’s cause.


4 posted on 02/25/2008 7:12:57 AM PST by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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To: cripplecreek
Agree. The right kind of immigrant.
5 posted on 02/25/2008 7:45:17 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: moderatewolverine
"Wadi isn't worried about returning to Iraq, where many of his countrymen considered him a traitor because he worked with American forces. His allegiance is now to the United States, he says."

He certainly sounds like a good man, but this sort of thing troubles me. I would not want an Iraqi-turned-American-soldier fighting beside me. Who knows where his real allegiance lies? And even if genuine, who knows if his allegiance will turn again? As a U.S. soldier, the information he could pass on to Iraqi insurgents could have devastating results. Is the Army really this desperate for troops that we take on foreign nationals from the nation we are fighting against.? I hope they keep him in the interpreting business in some office where he can't do much harm.

6 posted on 02/25/2008 8:09:45 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58
He certainly sounds like a good man, but this sort of thing troubles me. I would not want an Iraqi-turned-American-soldier fighting beside me. Who knows where his real allegiance lies? And even if genuine, who knows if his allegiance will turn again?

The United States military and the Iraqi military are fighting on the same side now. We are no longer enemies.

7 posted on 02/25/2008 8:16:01 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: houstonman58

This is a man who has proven himself over time. If he were intent on doing what you say, he has had ample opportunity to do so. His family came under threat and the U.S. stepped in to make sure they were safe. I am glad they did. I would be angry if they hadn’t.

The guy comes to the U.S. and hasn’t the money to support his family, and does the honorable thing. BTW, the U.S. evidently didn’t throw money at him either. He is going to enter our armed services on our side.

There are several messages in this. One, he doesn’t see the U.S. as anti-Iraq. He sees his efforts as helping his old homeland. He hasn’t joined the enemy. He has evaded them, and is now helping those who will help the Iraqis the most.

When we enter foreign nations, we hope to win people over. And when we do, some of them are going to come under intense scrutiny by those who disagree with them. This guy is like a answer to our deepest desires.

I do not see him in the terms you do. I welcome him into our national family, and appreciate very much the help he has already been to our men and women, and expect him to continue in that role.

This man would not have been recommended for this if he hadn’t shown himself to be trustworthy. I do have confidence in the military members who came to this conclusion and supported him.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 8:27:26 AM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: houstonman58

I believe the military will use him in a way that will benefit them from his experience. His knowledge of the country, or at least a particuler area would be most inviting. My hat is off to him for having the guts to do what he is doing. Depending on what other skills he has would determine a job availability, especially in Washington D.C. He know the army way of life from already being there as well.
May the real GOD bless him and keep him safe so he may provide for his family.


9 posted on 02/25/2008 8:34:38 AM PST by Wavrnr10 (Eagles soar but weasels don't get sucked in jet engines)
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To: DoughtyOne
"He hasn’t joined the enemy. He has evaded them, and is now helping those who will help the Iraqis the most. When we enter foreign nations, we hope to win people over."

I will not be fooled by Muslims, their first allegiance is to Mohammed and 'allah', period. They are the modern day Trojan Horse.

I am sure you're aware of the Steve Coughlin case. He is, (was), a high ranking Pentagon expert on radical Islam. He was recently released from his job by the Bush Administration for his warnings about Islamists infiltrating the U.S. through our government to set up a caliphate. He criticized an Islamist who also works for the Pentagon, Hesham Islam, and hence was releaved from his job by the Administration. Hesham Islam is suspected by Coughlin of being a member of the Islamic Brotherhood. Hesham Islam has sat in on Top Secret Pentagon meetings. As it turns out, FINALLY, the Bush Administration has fired Hesham Islam for his radical Islamic connections, exhonerating Coughlin, but revealing just how naive Bush is. It took a literal firestorm of criticism by conservatives, led by Washington Times Pentagon reporter Bill Gertz, to move Bush to act properly.

We are in trouble, my friend, because we are far too gullible and naive about the Islamists. They cannot be trusted in matters of national security, but unfortunately many of them are.

10 posted on 02/25/2008 9:07:33 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: Allegra
"The United States military and the Iraqi military are fighting on the same side now. We are no longer enemies."

Please don't be a fool. The Iraqi military are laden with subversives, spies and insurgents. They are still Islamists, and they only support the U.S. to the degree that they need us ----- for now. As the old axiom goes:

"He whose mind is changed agaisnt his will,
is of the same opinion still".

Islam cannot be trusted. We just fired a "hightly trusted" Muslim, Heshem Islam, who worked in a sensitive position at the Pentagon. Turns out he's a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. As we speak they are courtmartialing another "highly trusted" Muslim who is an American sailor, Abu-Jihaad. Seems this "highly trusted" Muslim was passing top secret information about his carrier group to Islamic terrorists. So trust the "good ones" if you may, but I never will.

11 posted on 02/25/2008 9:45:50 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: DoughtyOne
And here is yet another case of what the "highly trusted, pro-American" Muslims are doing to us.

"NEW HAVEN, Conn. — The trial of a former Navy sailor on terrorism charges promises to offer a glimpse into how prosecutors say an American serviceman communicated with suspected terrorists over the Internet while on duty and leaked information that could have doomed his own ship.

Prosecutors, defense attorneys and spectators began arriving at the U.S. District Courthouse about an hour before the trial was to begin about 9 a.m. Monday.

Prosecutors allege that Hassan Abu-Jihaad sent details of the location and vulnerabilities of a Navy battle group to suspected terrorism supporters in London.

"I think it's a very important case," said Michael Greenberger, director of the Center for Health and Homeland Security at the University of Maryland. "If we have members of our military who are aggressively passing on secrets to terrorists, that's cause for concern. It's a very aggressive act which would have brought real danger to the United States."

12 posted on 02/25/2008 9:49:36 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58

I would agree that in certain instances we have been far to gullible. I don’t have to buy off on the premise that this guy is a bad guy to accept that.

The Islam part of it is the real problem. I do wonder what your answer is for this guy going against his own Muslim brothers in Iraq though.

Do you just think he was setting us up, sacrificing his bretheren over there so he could take us out here?

If your premise is solid, why do you think Iraqis are turning in other Iraqi terrorists? Could it be that they don’t like what other Muslims are doing? Could it be that they are not quite as unilaterally unified as you think?

I have a real problem with us importing as many Muslems as we have been, particularly the Saudi Student Visas. You don’t have to swear a loyalty or have a vested interest and love for the U.S., just to come here on a student Visa. IMO, that’s the real problem, not this guy.


13 posted on 02/25/2008 10:01:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: moderatewolverine
"After the Army," he said, "I hope to go to an American university, get a job and be a productive citizen."

OMG..! Now why can't we get more people like this!!! This is the kind of immigrant my grandfathers were, and we need more of them!

14 posted on 02/25/2008 10:16:25 AM PST by Freeport
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To: houstonman58
What this guy did was wrong. No doubt about it. Does that mean that every person of Muslim faith is going to do what he did? I don’t believe so.

How many millions of Muslims do we have in our nation? I’ve had to ask myself that question and realize that we do not see the terrorism that one would expect from folks who are ‘supposedly’ sworn to attack the enemies of Islam. I must keep my views in perspective to the world we live in.

I do not dismiss caution. As I have stated, I believe there are some real dangers associated with some of our immigration practices. I still won’t sign off on the idea that every Muslim that joins our military is doing it for ulterior motives.

Do I see it as some cause for concern? Yes, actually I do. If it should turn out to be the problem you assess it to be, then it would be wise to furlow these folks out of the service.

So far, it appears that only a few wing-nuts have gone that route. And I would advise a rigorous vetting process when these men are taken into the service.

15 posted on 02/25/2008 10:18:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: houstonman58
Please don't be a fool.

Please don't be so condescendingly insulting.

The Iraqi military are laden with subversives, spies and insurgents.

Yes, I'm aware of that, but the infiltration levels have dropped dramatically due to much more sophisticated vetting processes.

They are still Islamists,...

You'd be surprised at how many of them don't practice Islam at all and even clandestinely disdain it.

...and they only support the U.S. to the degree that they need us ----- for now. As the old axiom goes:

"He whose mind is changed agaisnt his will,
is of the same opinion still".

You'd also be surprised at how many of them weren't changed against their wills. Despite the garbage touted by the mainstream media, most Iraqis wanted the US to come in, remove Saddam and give them a better form of government.

You made this statement: Is the Army really this desperate for troops that we take on foreign nationals from the nation we are fighting against.?

We are not fighting this nation. If I were possessed of lesser manners, this comment may draw a response from me such as: "Please don't be a fool."

16 posted on 02/25/2008 10:29:14 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: moderatewolverine; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ..

Worth re-reading.


17 posted on 02/25/2008 3:35:23 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: moderatewolverine

Tell this to Obama and the panty waisted
cowards on the left.

This man has courage.


18 posted on 02/25/2008 3:37:55 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: cripplecreek

“The right kind of immigrant.”

Amen.


19 posted on 02/25/2008 3:39:26 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: houstonman58

I would point out that all but a few of our men fighting in the Revolutionary War were British citizens before they joined up.


20 posted on 02/25/2008 3:41:55 PM PST by Uriah_lost (This space closed for a respectful mourning period...)
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To: Allegra

I’m guessing that the n00b doesn’t know who he’s talking to! lol.


21 posted on 02/25/2008 3:43:57 PM PST by Uriah_lost (This space closed for a respectful mourning period...)
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To: Uriah_lost
"I would point out that all but a few of our men fighting in the Revolutionary War were British citizens before they joined up."

LOL, that's not exactly synonomous with this thread. But even here you are a bit deceitful, the Brits, (Puritans, Pilgrims) began coming to the Colonies over 150 years before the Revolution, as seperatists running from British persecution. There were many native born Colonists of English ancestry living in America by the time of the Revolution, even 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation ones. Catholics began arriving to America in droves from England around 1732 when the Protestant persecution began forcing them to leave. So again, you had their children and grandchildren being native born into Colonial America. In any case, what they all shared together was the fact that they were all now from the same land, America, were being persecuted by England, and wanted to defeat the British Crown to form their own autonomous nation.

How you compare this situation with modern day Americans taking Islamists, (our enemy), into our military to fight alongside us is beyond me. Especially in light of the already numerous occurences where Muslims in our military have either murdered our own troops, deserted, or spied for the enemy.

22 posted on 02/25/2008 8:31:31 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: Allegra
"We are not fighting this nation. If I were possessed of lesser manners, this comment may draw a response from me such as: "Please don't be a fool."

I'll put that in the files with Huckleberry's public statement to the press: "I'm too good a man to use this attack add against my foe, so I'm not going to use it. But here, I'll let you folks taping this press conference for national television see it now".

I believe your arguments are indeed foolish, because you show a dangerously naive trust for the enemy. It is naivte like yours that will eventually help Islam, the Trojan Horse of our times, take us down. They are neither honest, trustworthy or a moral people. Already we have prosecuted a number of "highly trusted Islamists" in our military for treasonous activity, for killing our own troops, and for deserting. "Friendly, trustworthy" Iraqi Islamist "eye witnesses" have helped throw dozens of our brave warriors into the brigg, charged with murder and various 'war crimes'. Those men have had to fight for their lives to prove their innocense, all because of dupes such as yourself who believe these scum should be trusted.

But you can trust them all if you desire to, I'll continue to trust a Muslim for about as far as I can throw one.

23 posted on 02/25/2008 9:08:06 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: DoughtyOne
"What this guy did was wrong. No doubt about it. Does that mean that every person of Muslim faith is going to do what he did?"

No, but it sure as hell means that we are absolute fools for trusting any of them. As I've already said, just how many of these 'trusted' Islamists in our military are going to be found to be traitors, murderers, deserters and dangerous plants before we begin to see that trusting them in sensitive military positions is not in our best interests?

24 posted on 02/25/2008 9:12:06 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58

I appreciate your concerns on this matter. I may not agree with you in full, but I don’t dismiss any of it lightly.

Take care.


25 posted on 02/25/2008 9:49:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: houstonman58
"Friendly, trustworthy" Iraqi Islamist "eye witnesses" have helped throw dozens of our brave warriors into the brigg, charged with murder and various 'war crimes'. Those men have had to fight for their lives to prove their innocense, all because of dupes such as yourself who believe these scum should be trusted.

I suppose we'll just have to disagree. We have completely different perspectives. Yours is most likely mostly media-driven, whereas mine is just the opposite.

You clearly have no idea of how many Iraqis have ratted out the terrorists to our forces and by doing so have saved countless lives. Perhaps your glass is half empty and you look at the world through a jaudiced eye. I've never gotten on with people like that, so your insults don't surprise me, nor do they bother me.

My hope is that as a fellow Houstonian, our paths never cross.

Have a nice day.

26 posted on 02/25/2008 11:10:02 PM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: Uriah_lost
I’m guessing that the n00b doesn’t know who he’s talking to! lol.

LOL - I must confess to a fiendish enjoyment of toying with these types. ;-)

27 posted on 02/25/2008 11:13:25 PM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: Allegra
"Yours is most likely mostly media-driven, whereas mine is just the opposite."

Yes, we both know how much the media are constantly carping against Muslims, /sarc

If you must know, my opinion is neither media driven nor "the opposite", (whatever that is). My opinion is based on knowledge of Islam, knowledge of history, knowledge of current events, and human reason. You can have your "friendly" Muslims, but my hope is that people like you won't be able to foist these devil worshippers on the rest of us.

28 posted on 02/26/2008 7:22:29 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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...but my hope is that people like you won't be able to foist these devil worshippers on the rest of us.

"People like you..." What a tool you are, newbie.

People like me have been working alongside our military and with the Iraqi people for over four years. People like me might just know a thing or two about the Iraqis as opposed to people like you who form opinions based on "knowledge of current events" (translation: the media).

Thank goodness clueless people like you aren't calling the shots.

You have a lot to learn, newbie. As you're doing so, you might want to keep your ignorance to yourself.

29 posted on 02/26/2008 8:55:57 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: houstonman58
"Friendly, trustworthy" Iraqi Islamist "eye witnesses" have helped throw dozens of our brave warriors into the brigg(sic)

Nice spin

Those were Iraqi terrorist supporters and friends of the insurgents.

And have been discredited no thanks to you and Murtha.

And believed by John Murtha (a traitor to this country) and a few other people, including you.

Do you believe the other Military hating statements of Murtha's also?

Those men have had to fight for their lives to prove their innocense(sic), all because of dupes such as yourself who believe these scum should be trusted.

I would venture to state that Allegra's ability to see who to trust or not trust is much more accurate than yours or Murthas.

Your naivety of discernment as to who is and isn't "Friendly, trustworthy" Iraqi Islamist "eye witnesses" is on par with Murtha's and other traitors of this country.

And you have the audacity to call others dupes???

30 posted on 02/26/2008 9:22:52 AM PST by Syncro
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To: cripplecreek

>>The right kind of immigrant.<<

Well said. Now if we can only kick out the leecher immigrants who hate America or even the Americans who hate their own country.


31 posted on 02/26/2008 9:26:19 AM PST by max americana
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To: houstonman58; Allegra

Allegra is talking about the lack of media reporting on the good things happening in Iraq, including just what she said about Iraqis turning in the scum who are running around blowing up things and people and chopping their heads off.

She isn’t talking about a media that has bad things to say about Muslims. She knows better.

In fact, she knows, period, because of her long service in Iraq, “sweetie pie”.


32 posted on 02/26/2008 9:34:08 AM PST by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult and the Clinton Machine!!)
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To: Syncro
"Nice spin Those were Iraqi terrorist supporters and friends of the insurgents. And have been discredited no thanks to you and Murtha."

WTF are you talking about, "me and Murtha"? I'm no democrat liberal bastard. Of course they were Iraq terrorist supporters and insurgents. All I'm saying is that those Iraqis who have recently allied themselves with the U.S. cause were slow to do so. It took years and thousands of U.S. deaths before their "turnaround". I happen to love my U.S. troops, and 100% support their mission, and 100% support them. They are in my daily prayers, and I donate monthly to wounded U.S. troops and their families who are in need of financial help. (If you care to do the same you judgemental ass, you can donate to the "Coalition To Support American Heros"). In any case, it was only after we finally began to stomp the Iraqis with our surge of troop strength and loosened the rules of engagement that we suddenly found so many Iraqi "allies".

You can take your "friendly" Moslem cultists and stick them where the sun don't shine. Islamists are nothing but trouble for the world. Whereever they congregate they fight, butcher, oppress, conquer, and hate. There is no region where they live that is not in constant chaos. No 'religion' that enslaves their women in burlap sacks, uses amputation to punish petty crimes, allows men to divorce their wives simply by saying "I divorce you" three times, and whose entire history is one of merciless bloody conquest is one that I will trust or choose to live alongside.

34 posted on 02/26/2008 2:53:33 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58

Knock off the personal attacks or your stay here will be short.


35 posted on 02/27/2008 8:46:51 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Lead Moderator
"Knock off the personal attacks or your stay here will be short."

Sorry if I offended any one here. But to me, sir, the worst personal attack I could endure was being lumped with Jack Murtha, which is why I responded so angrily. I do tend to get a little 'riled' now and then, so again, my apologies.

36 posted on 02/28/2008 6:58:52 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58
But to me, sir, the worst personal attack I could endure was being lumped with Jack Murtha, which is why I responded so angrily.

That doesn't appear to be the post that was removed. It's the one where you called me a "she-male" among other things and didn't even have the courtesy to ping me on it. I never compared you to Murtha, but you slung personal attacks at me.

Just wanted to make sure you knew the real deal.

37 posted on 02/29/2008 1:32:14 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: Allegra
"You have a lot to learn, newbie. As you're doing so, you might want to keep your ignorance to yourself."

"Newbie"? Should I take that as a personal attack? "Ignorant"? I suppose that's not really a personal attack, just a little 'correction', eh Allegra?

Just two things here. One, I wasn't born the day I signed onto Free Republic, my education and experience did not begin here, nor will it end here. I've been around for 58 years previous to that, doing things like serving my country in Vietnam, getting married, raising children, earning two college degrees, (one in business, one in legal studies), owning and operating a business for 14 years, proudly welcoming my U.S. Marine son home from Iraq, being a grandfather, staying actively involved in politics and current events; you know, that sort of 'newbie' thing.

Two, I will remind you that this conversation never, ever was about anything other than my assertion that you cannot trust Islam and you cannot trust Muslims with your own country or your life, no matter how many, (or in the case of reality), how few have a temporary alliance with America. Knowing that there are always exceptions in this life, I stand by that statement, completely. We have purchased our shoddy Islamic alliance from Pakistan with dollars. Our 'alliance' with the Saudis is another shallow, shakey one, based entirely on economics. Neither the Saudis nor Turks, when push came to shove, would share their air space with us when the Iraq War began. Libya gives us their olive branch of peace only because Ghadafi fears for his worthless life. You may talk about some Iraqis who have come over to our side, and I can show you some American Muslims who have placed allegiance to 'allah' over the U.S. military and have deserted, murdered our own troops, spied and given top secret information to al Quaeda. Did not our Islamic 'allies' in Afghanistan riot, burn down buildings and kill at the mere report of a koran being tossed in a toilet at Gitmo?

Now, just to ease your mind, I won't go back to all the false and shameless things you've said about me on these posts and report you to a moderator, that's just juvenile to me. Big boys can take care of themselves. And real men know they weren't born the day they joined some club.

38 posted on 02/29/2008 8:12:27 AM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58
When you become a "real man," let me know.

In the meantime, bear in mind that you started right off with the insults and they were unprovoked. You called me a "fool." Don't dish out what you can't take and don't start something you can't handle.

You have made your misogynistic feelings clear and I have no more to say to you. You're not the first male I've come across who is afraid of intelligent women.

You may converse with me after you've grown up. And I won't hold my breath.

Good day, now.

39 posted on 02/29/2008 8:18:04 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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