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And the Oscar for most depressing . . .
Jewish World Review ^ | Feb. 25, 2008 | Mitch Albom

Posted on 02/25/2008 12:20:00 PM PST by Caleb1411

I'm didn't watch the Oscars. Normally I do. But I've spent enough time and money on the most depressing, dark and disturbed lineup of movies I ever can remember. I don't need to see them get rewarded.

Am I the only one who remembers when they actually gave Oscars to movies that had happy endings? There's not one happy ending in this lot — unless you consider an unplanned teenage pregnancy resulting in someone else's adoption a happy ending. That's the big payoff in "Juno."

Otherwise, you have "There Will Be Blood," in which a tyrannical oil baron destroys everyone and everything around him; "No Country For Old Men," in which a serial killer destroys everything and everyone around him; "Michael Clayton," in which greed gets nearly everyone killed; and "Atonement," in which a false accusation ruins the lives of all involved.

Um. Remind me again.

Why do we go to the movies?

THERE'S NO DEBATE HERE

Now, I'm not a Pollyanna. I enjoy films. I collect them. And I understand that not every story ends with music swirling and heroes walking off into a sunset.

But lately there's this sense that unless a movie is dark, violent and hopeless, it can't be "real." It can't be "art." It can't truly "matter." I put these words in quotes because it feels as if critics and awards committees define things that way.

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1 posted on 02/25/2008 12:20:03 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: Caleb1411
It can't be "art."

Art is dead.

2 posted on 02/25/2008 12:22:20 PM PST by Pietro
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To: Caleb1411
"Michael Clayton" was a dull, TV-quality film.

It had no business being up for an Oscar.

3 posted on 02/25/2008 12:25:13 PM PST by what's up
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To: Art; Pietro
Art is dead.

Say it ain't so! 

4 posted on 02/25/2008 12:25:25 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Pietro

I thought Art Bell was just retired and living in Thailand.


5 posted on 02/25/2008 12:25:37 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Caleb1411

I thought No Country for Old Men was a very good movie. But then I love all of the Cohen Brothers movies, starting with the first one I saw: Blood Simple.

Anyone remember that old one?


6 posted on 02/25/2008 12:25:52 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: Caleb1411

What I notice are the message movies. The oil barron. Wow, that was a stretch. Greed? Oh those pescky republicans need to be taken down a notch. You know damned well that’s what they producers were thinking.

I’m sick of this anti-American swill, and I’m tired of the globalist nonsense that sees foreign actors and actresses all the rage today in our effort to force multi-culturalism all the way down the digestive tract of U. S. Citizens.

I love people of all races, nationalities and places on the planet. Is it okay if I love my own race too? Evidently not. Nah, don’t root for one of those people. Ewwwwwwwwwwww...


7 posted on 02/25/2008 12:26:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: Caleb1411

Ever since “Midnight Cowboy” swept the Oscars forty years ago it has to be dark and depressing to be “authentic.”

Nowadays, if it isn’t dark/violent/sexed up, it’s automatically considered “family fare” and presumably beneath serious attention.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 12:26:27 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Caleb1411

Mitch is a whiner.

Some ideas aren’t all Disney-fodder and aren’t meant “for the whole family”.

Get over it, Mitch.


9 posted on 02/25/2008 12:27:36 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: what's up

They just gave it to Clooney becuz he’d gnaw the zits off Obama’s backside out of Love.


10 posted on 02/25/2008 12:27:54 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: Caleb1411

And the Oscar for most depressing

And who cares. The acting is poor, and without conviction. I wish we had the old actors and actresses back. John Wayne, Charles Bronson, Etc. they made it come real

I watched about 30 seconds of the pre-hype then went to the NASCAR races. The Rain break was better than the Oscars ever were.


11 posted on 02/25/2008 12:28:01 PM PST by chainsaw (Monica Lewinsky's ex-sex partner's wife for Pesident ?....No Muslim in the WH either.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It seems in the original 1927 Upton Sinclair novel: “Oil!” the Daniel-Day Lewis character was the hero rather than villain. The small, independent oilman struggling to make a living in the shadow of the Rockefellers, et al.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 12:28:42 PM PST by sinanju
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To: i_dont_chat
Anyone remember that old one?

The same Cohen brothers who produced Raising Arizona and Fargo?

13 posted on 02/25/2008 12:29:23 PM PST by MJemison
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To: what's up

Michael Clayton” was a dull, TV-quality film.
It had no business being up for an Oscar.”

Except that George Clooney was in it so it automatically gets nominated.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 12:29:31 PM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: Caleb1411
I rarely go to movies any more, mainly because most of them fail my basic premise for going: To escape from the daily grind and enjoy something that makes me laugh and smile. Hollywood seems to think its job is to educate people on topics that the likes of Michael Moore thinks are interesting. That’s fine, but don’t expect me to support it at the theater or on TV by watching the Oscars. Judging from the ratings for last night's bad joke, there are a lot of other people who feel the same. Finally, compare the People's Choice Awards and the box office receipts to get a better idea of what people want to see in a theater.
15 posted on 02/25/2008 12:29:52 PM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Of course the hypocasy is lost on these people. Bill Gates, Steve Job’s et.al. Democrats and rich, just like many corporate CEO’s.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 12:30:12 PM PST by Bruinator (It's the Media.............Stupid)
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To: DoughtyOne

The current wave has been the” brilliant” Chinese actors who do a very bad impression of Snake Pliskin or Tony Curtis in drag. Its all to prepare us for our new overlords.


17 posted on 02/25/2008 12:30:21 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: i_dont_chat

Ever since “Beerfest” was not even nominated for an award, I knew the Oscars was fixed.
I have boycotted ever since.


18 posted on 02/25/2008 12:30:27 PM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: sinanju

And thus the individual is now the villain.


19 posted on 02/25/2008 12:31:19 PM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: Caleb1411

I don’t watch negative, depressing movies. I have my own problems in my own life, and I tend to deal with them rather nicely, thank you. So, I sure as hell don’t need to hear about someone else screwing up everything around them. Geesh, I hate Hollywierd. Movies are a “slice of life.”

Hollywood used to try to give us uplifting, positive slices of life that helped us cope or briefly escape — either of which is acceptable. Now, the leftwing movie moguls and their airheaded “stars” insist upon foisting the most negatives slices of life they can find on us — and telling us that’s all there is.

My idea of a happy ending now would be for everyone in Hollywierd — with the possible exception of Arnold the Pig — to drop dead.


20 posted on 02/25/2008 12:31:21 PM PST by lapster
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To: redstateconfidential

Now, that’s a mouthful.


21 posted on 02/25/2008 12:31:29 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: weegee

Thailand?


22 posted on 02/25/2008 12:31:40 PM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: i_dont_chat

“Blood Simple” was definitely something. Frances McDormand was still a hottie then and it was the first time I really sat up and took notice of character actor Dan Hedaya (the abusive husband who conspires to kill her but ends up the victim).

Wonderfully sleazy role for fellow bit player M. Emmett Walsh as the private-eye-turned-assasin.

I’ve never looked at yellow leisure-suits the same way since...


23 posted on 02/25/2008 12:32:11 PM PST by sinanju
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To: MJemison

Same Cohen Brothers. Yes.

Blood Simple. Check it out. Released around 1983.


24 posted on 02/25/2008 12:32:35 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: sinanju

That’s kindof funny actually. Isn’t it patently absurd what the leftist movie industry has turned into? These folks are infantile in their approach to life.

Not much would suit me more than to see their industry replaced by a conservative industry that actually made movies that heralded the good things about our nation, and it’s potential for the good of mankind.

Oh, I forgot. That really doesn’t exist... /s

LibTards!


25 posted on 02/25/2008 12:32:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Yeah, Mitch. Get over it. Cheer up.


26 posted on 02/25/2008 12:33:39 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Bruinator

Exactly right. They’d trash their own just to get in a jab at those they loathe.


27 posted on 02/25/2008 12:33:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: Caleb1411
There has been no movie in many many years that has made me want to go pay the gazzillion dollars for the chance to see it on the big screen. I bet I've rented all of 10 movies in the last 5 years as well...most for my kids.

Mitch hits it on the head!

28 posted on 02/25/2008 12:33:55 PM PST by oust the louse (Terrorists are salivating over a Clinton or Obama White House.)
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To: i_dont_chat
"Blood Simple"

Agreed, an excellent movie. Also agree about all the Cohen movies with the exception of "The Ladykillers" which wasn't (IMO) up to their usual standards.

29 posted on 02/25/2008 12:34:13 PM PST by Proud_texan (Stop global whining)
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To: i_dont_chat

Blood Simple is one of my favorites, but I can’t find it in my local video store.


30 posted on 02/25/2008 12:34:26 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: sinanju

If you get to read a book called “The Prize”. Its a very comprehensive book on the oil industry. Really interesting.


31 posted on 02/25/2008 12:34:40 PM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: i_dont_chat

Isn’t No Country full of violence?


32 posted on 02/25/2008 12:34:47 PM PST by sarasota
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s happened before. 44 years ago all four acting awards went to foreign born actors (Rex Harrison, Julie Andrews, Peter Ustinov, Lila Kedrova).


33 posted on 02/25/2008 12:36:02 PM PST by Borges
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To: Caleb1411

This was actually the best crop of Best PIcture nominees in a long time.


34 posted on 02/25/2008 12:36:55 PM PST by Borges
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To: i_dont_chat
No Country was excellent until they killed off Josh Brolin.

Brolin carried the movie. It fizzled thereafter into a dumb movie IMO.

35 posted on 02/25/2008 12:37:34 PM PST by what's up
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To: i_dont_chat

“Anyone remember that old one?”

Old One? That was just in the early 80’s. What are you 30? :-)


36 posted on 02/25/2008 12:37:50 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: sarasota
It’s about psychotic serial killer. The novel was by Cormac Maccarthy who has been called one of the most violent writers in American history.
37 posted on 02/25/2008 12:37:57 PM PST by Borges
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To: redstateconfidential
I’ll have to admit to being a big Jackie Chan fan. I do know where you are coming from, and in light of what is taking place in the world, it’s fairly easy to see why you would take offense at some of this.

The average person simply wants an equitable situation. When things get out of whack, it festers in our minds. It is inconceivable to me, that we would short up a communist state intent on replacing the United States as the world’s leading hegemon.

What possible rationality could be used to justify what we have done? None.

38 posted on 02/25/2008 12:39:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: Pietro
Art is dead.

When the Mogels ruled Hollywood and the Studio owned YOU, Frank Capra made movies where Good was Good, Evil Was Evil, and nobody you really liked got killed in the end. They understood that movies were like cans of beans or any other product. You might feel like cooking for yourself once and awhile, but it didn't really make the Studio as much money as making something the public actually wanted. The "stars", for all their glory, were cattle, traded and loaned out between studios when need be. If they slept with one-legged chimpanzees in their spare time, they damn well better keep quiet about it, and there were assigned press agents to do whatever was required to keep it away from the paying public; most of what went on in Hollywood stayed in Hollywood, and everybody like it that way.

When the stars finally broke loose with the dawn of TV ("that devil box"), they started making "art" for themselves; before long we had blood splatter and stabbings, and the way you got real recognition was by impressing your peers with how much you could push the envelope and re-educate the rubes, not by telling a story people wanted to hear.

RIP, Hollywood.

39 posted on 02/25/2008 12:39:17 PM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: what's up

I thouight Brolin was excellent in American Gangster.


40 posted on 02/25/2008 12:39:27 PM PST by sarasota
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To: Caleb1411

Why do we go to the movies?


To look into the mirror.


41 posted on 02/25/2008 12:39:40 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Borges

I can only watch films w/violence at home with my fast forward button at the ready.


42 posted on 02/25/2008 12:40:09 PM PST by sarasota
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To: sinanju

The movie did not transform a novel into a left wing political vehicle. Upton Sinclair was an avowed socialist who himself admitted that he wrote the novel Oil! only to portray capitalism (through Day’s character) and religion (through Dano’s) character as evil. If anything, the movie toned down these societal references.


43 posted on 02/25/2008 12:40:24 PM PST by Texas Federalist (Fred Thompson 08)
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To: Borges

The novel was by Cormac Maccarthy who has been called one of the most violent writers in American history.


He’s a brilliant stylist in an age when about six people care about style or brilliance. Oh wait, Harold Bloom is dead. Make that five people.


44 posted on 02/25/2008 12:41:00 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Holicheese

I do have “The Prize” and it is fascinating.

I also recommend a more recent book by Professor Yergin titled: “The Commanding Heights” about the slow postwar ascendence of Hayekian economics over statist Keynsianism.


45 posted on 02/25/2008 12:41:18 PM PST by sinanju
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To: DoughtyOne
Isn’t it patently absurd what the leftist movie industry has turned into? These folks are infantile in their approach to life.

What I don't get is that the Left seems to think that humans are basically "good" (in contrast to Christians who see our nature as inherently flawed) and that the reason Man appears damaged is that our social institutions are flawed. Through the Social Gospel (and lots of government programs) Man will eventually achieve perfection.

Now, I think that's a flawed way to look at the human situation, but I believe that's how the Left sees us.

Question: with a worldview like that, why on earth does the Left constantly make movies showing people who are totally messed-up, in hopeless situations, and with no happy ending in sight?

46 posted on 02/25/2008 12:41:36 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: sarasota

“Isn’t No Country full of violence?”

Only about half full. Some of it’s graphic. Great movie though.


47 posted on 02/25/2008 12:41:41 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Pietro

Last movie I saw in a theater was Saving Private Ryan.
Before that, I don’t remember...or care.


48 posted on 02/25/2008 12:41:42 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: sarasota

My opinion, it is not overly gruesome. It is sadistic in a psychological way, not in a physical way. The story line: about a paid killer who is looking to kill to retrieve money stolen during a gone-bad drug deal.


49 posted on 02/25/2008 12:41:43 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: Borges

Thanks for the note. I hadn’t realized that took place. I enjoyed the first three quite a bit over the years, but don’t remember Lila. I’d probably recognize her if I saw her picture.

Rex Harrison and Peter Ustinov were great.


50 posted on 02/25/2008 12:42:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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