Too much pleasure, too few children

St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 02/22/2008 | ROD DREHER

[Tax-chick]

The author isn't speaking for himself, he's speaking of a common societal view, which he argues against:

It still seems to me that he's setting up a dichotomy, but you might be right after all.

[retrokitten]

Was that supposed to be an insult? Because it actually made me crack up. This might come as a shock to you, but not everyone one FR is a Christian.

[CougarGA7]

Honestly, I had never heard that definition of Cougar until just a week ago.

I was going to say that if you cant find the young men then you have to make them yourself, but that’s just well....icky.

[ThreeYearLurker]

This isn’t my family, though my great-grandmother had 16 kids. This is the great Duggar family, the future of this country.

If you ever read Jim Taranto at the Wall Street Journal, he brings up the “Roe Effect”, essentially the states with the lowest birthrates, also have high abortion rates, and also are the most liberal. Essentially they are aborting away future voters into irrelevency.

Jim Bob Duggar is a Conservative rebublican, and you see 17 future republican votes in this picture.

[al baby]

Omg that womens Vagina is like a clown Car

[Alouette]

Like it or not, the future belongs to the fecund faithful.

Heh. Just celebrated the birth of my 20th grandkid.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I question whether there is "too much pleasure." The suicide and addiction rates in the demographically collapsing --- oops, "child-FREE" --- countries suggests that the pleasure level, or (maybe a subtle difference) the satisfaction level of fragmented, weak-bonded, noprocreative sex may not be that satisfactory.

I'm for the solid satisfaction of child-blessed marriage.

It does save you from the leprosy of loneliness. Over the long run, that counts for a lot.

[ThreeYearLurker]

You are going to be mighty lonely when you are in your seventies and all your friends are dead. I hope the memories of your last vacation or useless toy you bought will sustain you then. When you pass, I hope you realize that within a few weeks, people will forget that you ever existed, and you will have no impact on the world whatsoever.

When I am old, however, I will be comforted by may family, and when I die, I will live forever, in the genes of my decendents.

[Mrs. Don-o]

See #67.

[The_Republican]

Sex with a purpose is so not hot.

[retrokitten]

Oh, I love you, too, sweetie!

[cyborg]

Count me in for now too!

[Dumb_Ox]

It’s also odd is that Dreher is describing the Victorian family as “atomistic.”

[retrokitten]

How are you?? I haven’t stumbled on you in ages!!

[cyborg]

Oh yeah *lol* Marriage, work and now nursing school ruined my home freepathons :D

[discostu]

Unless your kids don’t like you. Really the idea of breeding so you’ll have company in your dotage and genetic immortality is pretty lame, shallow and ego driven. Kind of funny how many people call those without kids egotistical and shallow then throw around their even more egotistical and shallow reason to have kids.

If you wanna have kids great, enjoy them. Not everybody likes kids though. I have never liked kids, I can remember as far back as age 5 clearly preferring the company of adults. Don’t like em, never liked em, never gonna like em. And if you don’t like that TFB.

[retrokitten]

LOL! Yeah, but you’re going to nursing school! That’s great!

[cyborg]

Keeps me busy that’s for sure. Thanks for remembering me :-)

[Mrs. Don-o]

People who support Kinder, Küche, Kirche are cultural conservatives. Rod, who's 3-for-3 on that, is solidly conservative by that definition, though I know some of us have some questions about his "crunch." I do enjoy his regular column, often fresh and sometimes really funny.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"You gotta wonder about somebody who looks at children as the punishment for having sex."

I agree. But who...?