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Posted on 02/25/2008 3:21:43 PM PST by kellynla
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Not that there’s anything wrong with .22LRs.
There’s got to be hundreds of thousands of those around.
Dang, that guy could shoot!
The Scope base (home made)......
And the stocks for yer old enfield.......
I have done this stuff to a number of the enfields.....my favorite truck gun is an old Gibbs rifle Company Bulldog cut down of the enfield I converted too the 54R round.
Nice cheap reliable rifles......
Stay safe !
Self reamed chambers, fire formed brass adn angle iron scope mounts: you gotta love it, backyard smithing!
You got that right. And they silence real nice.
Yep.......all on a 70$ surplus rifle using a cheap tasco 6-18X 40$ scope. I went whole hog and got an ATI sporter stock and then after careful masking had the entire rig coated with truck bed-liner from Line-X Inc !
it’ll weather realllllll good !..........;o)
Kind of reminds me of the fictional $150 Nagant rig I hypothosized could shoot traitors at 500 yards.
Truck bed liner, you mean that Rhino liner stuff? I never thought of using it on guns. South Africans pioneered its use in the beds of giant open pit mine dump trucks. If it’ll stand up to that, I reckon guns should be an easy day.
Yep ....the key IMO is that line-x is finer that Rhino bed liner which is pretty aggressive grit per se. Kinda like 50 grit sandpaper vs 500 grit paper.
I have a few older surplus rifles that were of no collector value at all......I elected to “make” em good general purpose working guns. I gave a couple to ranchers and local farmers for hunting rights. Good trade !.....LOL !
When someone pulls out their 5k sniper rig with 3k worth of optics I pull one of those old sleepers out from under the seat of the truck , clean off the scope with my T-Shirt and shoot with em.......:o)
All fun !
I’d love to see that! No rifle case, just drag it out, trailing jumper cables and McDonald’s trash. Then out shoot their 5K rigs!
Then you'd be wrong- At least in the Rockies and the Missouri Breaks. There is hardly a house that doesn't have multiple guns... 7mm, 30.06, 30-30, 308 are a dime a dozen. 12 ga, 20ga shotguns are everywhere, pistols run toward .357mag, .45, and 9mm, and are plentiful.
Kids learn to shoot dang near before they learn to read, and usually bag a deer before entering junior high school. You'd be hard pressed to find a kid that hasn't gone plinkin' gophers, and every pickup has gun racks.
Guns aren't just keepsakes here-abouts, they're a way of life.
Hardly a week went by that we didn't have Mosin-Nagants, Mausers, or Enfields on sale, sometimes as cheap as $20. While a number of these rifles were in need of some serious refurbishment, there were quite a few that looked to be in excellent shape.
I bought several of these rifles during the year I worked there, but looking back, I wish I'd picked up more while I was at it.
Hindsight is always twenty-twenty.
I try , yet not always successful.......:o)
There are hunters here that will shoot their deer, put the rifle behind the seat of the truck with the empty brass still in the chamber and then next season pull out the rifle , use a mallet too open the bolt and chamber a fresh round and go get their deer for that season and put the rifle back in same condition........it’s no less than a tire iron too them . A simple tool that does a simple job ..........:o)
You ain’t kidding about hindsight. Too bad we don’t get “do-overs.”
I’ve known a couple of those one-round-per-year deer hunters. Sighting in is just for new rifles and scopes, one time.
We placed first and second on a 80 round match. Shut them up quick.
M1A's with iron sights, both.
Must have good eyes!
I did break down and built a heavy barral .308 with mauser 98 action, topped with a leopold tactical and custom Mcmillan stock for a treat to myself. I shoot it more and more now. Still trying to master the mil dots. :-))
Good trick with the 24 inch lenses. Gotta keep that in mind.
It's a bitch though to switch to handguns, unless you hold them out to arm's length as well.
Surely there is one warm sunny spot to be found in Montana.....
There is no such thing as a “silly” round. Not even a .25 ACP. With some of the weaker calibers, you just need to be a LOT more accurate in your shot place to be effective.
There is no such thing as a "collective right". To even consider such a concept is to fundamentally abdicate the basis of our government and the Constitution which defines it.
Let's hope our SC understands that and "infringement" (as in you have the individual RKBA but government entities can "regulate" that right--IOW infringe on it).
What do you choose?
End of argument...
50 degrees and sunny here yesterday and today. I can see the north side of Yellowstone Park from my living room window. Our weather is not as bad as let on. Don’t tell anyone though.
No, not at all. Because if I really needed a home defense weapon and all I had was an antique henry rimfire, i woulda sold it long time ago for impressive coin. Then bought a glock or a stainless smith, or maybe two or three of each.
Or, If I had an attachment to the old museum piece, I would’ve sold some of the ammo and bought an old police issue revolver and keep the henry locked in a safe.
The fact remains, anything is better than nothing. Although, having "something", absent the will to use it, is pointless.
That’s kinda cool.
That’s not quite what I had in mind though. I was thinking that if I could get my hands on a dozen old 303s with throat erosion for maybe $35 bucks a rifle, I could do the ream job on them and get about 5000 rounds of russian ammo and I’d have myself a fairly impressive doomsday arsenal to hide somewhere and forget about. And for not too much cash either. I could think of a few other goodies to add to it too.
Same idea, we cache stuff for a rainy day and figure such tools have to be cheap enough to abandon or suffer a theft if discovered. we look at spring set so go with revolvers and bolt guns for the most part or MAK90’s with the springs removed from the rifles and the magazines, Extensive efforts to leave Sino Soviet ammo tins intact and unopened / sealed as they look at long term storage as well. Their efforts are quality and reliable for the most part making anyone good or poor quality cache reliable as well.
If all you had was a ford model T would you use it to commute to work? See, ridiculous question ain’t it?
Yes. If it was the only way to get to work.
I bought one of those Ishapore Enfields in 7.62 NATO kind of on a whim a couple years back. Paid $125.00 for it. Obviously it's a mil-surp so I had it checked out, headspaced, etc.
The gunsmith told me that it had probably only been fired a few times at most.
That thing has one of the smoothest and fastest bolt actions I've ever fired. It's also accurate out to 400 yards. Can't say if it's capable of better as I've never had the opportunity to test it beyond that range.
The magazine holds 10 rounds.
I liked it so much I bought 2 more. The first one I 'sporterized'. I hung a four power scope on it and it's a darn handy little hunting rifle.
The other two I had checked with similar results, cleaned 'em up, zero'd them, and put them into 'storage' along with a quantity of US Lake City surplus 7.62 ammo for each.
Those old Enfields are capable of much better than 'minute of man' I'll tell you. Ringing a 10 skillet at 400 yards over iron sights is childs play for those things.
Are they heavy? Yep.
Are they old? Yep.
Do they go 'bang' every time you pull the trigger? Yep.
Are they worth having? F****** A they are.
And when I pull old Mr. Enfield out at the range and some smart ass goes "whatcha gonna do with that antique old man?" I just smile and put 10 rounds in the black faster than that young punk can spit.
Then I just smile and say "Oh, I don't know. It could come in handy someday..." More often than not someone asks me where I got it and if any more are available.
Wish I'd bought half a dozen of 'em now...
I have one with a SWAT 10 x 24 scope, will hold sub-minute easily at 100 yards. With a 16 inch barrel no less. Plan on a trigger upgrade though.
With my 'antique' M1A (civilian version of the M14) I can put a round through your head at 800 yards and one through your buddies chest before he ever hears the shots that killed you both.
You might want to drop by Camp Perry someday during the National Matches. You'd be suprised just how many of those 'antique' M14 variants you'll see winning long distance matches.
You write many words, yet seem to have very little practical knowledge.
From a concealed position me and my 'antique' M1A can make sure that nothing I object to lives in a 1600 yard radius. We may be old, but we'll still wreck your whole day my friend.
Yep. Got 3 of 'em.
See post 137.
Please do. The manufacturer who made the one I bought no longer has any and doesn't plan any more production.
Vauge but 100% functional and can be left as rough or refined as ya wish.
I drilled out mine aka honeycombed it, counter sinked each hole, then bead blasted the hell out of it. went back and did some experimental acid etching etc etc ......left a little EOD logo on it. It didn’t look as well as I wanted so I blasted that poor boy etching off it and then , as I stated to TM above, used the bedliner material on it from Line-x. I used different shades of grey, black etc to make the little rifle, stock, metal, and the scope look really nice.
Careful prep of parts and all the accuracy work was done before the final finish and it shoots great after final assembly.
A wise man once told me never to ‘advertise’ what weapons you have. YOu never know who may be listening.
I’m glad to see Montana hasn’t been totally overrun by California liberals yet.
Somewhere upthread somebody posted a standing record from the 19teens, where a shooter with an Enfield put something like 38 rounds into a 12 inch target at 200 yards in a minute. I’ve always heard the Enfield had the fastest bolt action ever.
Send me a pic of that thing and I'll show you what I did to mine.
Sec. 15. Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.
Connecticut state Constitution
You can watch a modern recreation of it on Youtube.
The Brits used those old Enfields to great effect through 2 World Wars. Trained British riflemen could fire the Enfields so quickly that enemy troops were often convinced they were facing machine guns instead of bolt action rifles.
Since I haven't as of yet actually fired every single bolt action ever made I can't really comment. I know the Swiss K-31 Carbine has a straight pull bolt which may make it just a touch quicker. But that rifle has a magazine capacity of only 6 rounds.
Not that that niggling little detail would matter to a Swiss rifleman. No self respecting Swiss shooter could look at him or her self in the mirror if it took more than a single round to bring down their target.