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MEMO TO CONSERVATIVES: THE FIGHT IS JUST BEGINNING
conservativehq.com ^ | Feb 25 2008 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 02/25/2008 5:34:34 PM PST by ovrtaxt

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1 posted on 02/25/2008 5:34:35 PM PST by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Conservatives’ resources are finite. We must stop supporting the Republican Establishment, and, instead, support the principled conservatives who need and deserve our help.

Bump!

2 posted on 02/25/2008 5:36:18 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: ovrtaxt

This is absolutely perfect and something I’ve been saying for a long time. Nice to see it written down so eloquently.

For the down and dirty version, read my tag.


3 posted on 02/25/2008 5:39:22 PM PST by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I’m IN!


4 posted on 02/25/2008 5:40:01 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: upchuck

Viguerie is a good guy.


5 posted on 02/25/2008 5:40:22 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Good post, excellent advise. This election reminds me of Gideon and the culling down to three hundred to demonstrate WHO is ultimately in control....


6 posted on 02/25/2008 5:42:47 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: upchuck
For real reform, voter fraud convictions have to continue. The electoral map from 04 highlighted voter fraud hot spots that are unbelievable. My own Cook County is the hottest spot outside of NYC and LA.
7 posted on 02/25/2008 5:43:45 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: ovrtaxt

It’s all about the money. My candidate has already been chosen and I haven’t voted yet.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 5:44:17 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: ovrtaxt

Aye. Rino extinction is job #1.


9 posted on 02/25/2008 5:46:47 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: ovrtaxt

BIG BUMP!


10 posted on 02/25/2008 5:47:09 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: ovrtaxt
The RINOs won't like this philosophy and strategy. Not one bit.

Good!

11 posted on 02/25/2008 5:50:40 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Sean, Rush, Laura, Mark, Michelle, Neil, Michael nor others do ANY thinking for THIS conservative.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Vote Third. Don’t be part of a RINO mandate. Make the RINO extinct now or you will never see another conservative nominated.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 5:51:26 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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13 posted on 02/25/2008 5:52:29 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: ovrtaxt

He is an excellent guy! I think he is espousing the 1976 strategy.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 5:57:08 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Aye. Rino extinction is job #1.

Well let me see, first your would need to define Rino. Then I would be curious how many Republicans would be purged by your definition.

What I would suspect you may find out is that if you get rid of everyone that is defined as a Rino by many here you wouldn't have enough voters left to elect very many people.

The plan laid out in the article starting this topic has merit if you start out with an understanding that it takes many more people than just strict conservatives to win an election and understand other peoples views you might have a chance to turn the Republican party more conservative.

However you might find that purging everyone you think is a Rino would leave you with a minority that couldn't elect anyone.

15 posted on 02/25/2008 5:58:27 PM PST by billva
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To: ex-snook

I’ll vote third party for President, (if there’s a conservative choice) and I’ll vote for the most pro-small government candidate in every other race, regardless of party.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 6:00:21 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: billva

RINOs are easy to define: Any member of the GOP who thinks big government is a good thing.

They can’t win without us.


17 posted on 02/25/2008 6:01:58 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: ovrtaxt
And very soon, we will see replies on this thread which I call "The Abusive Husband Mantra." It is some variant of, 'If you don't vote republican, we will have a marxist in the White House. It will be your fault....'

Probably been posted before I had a chance to get this out.

18 posted on 02/25/2008 6:07:52 PM PST by Jemian ("I hate the media." ~~ Kayak)
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Hey! Whaddayaknow. It hasn’t been posted yet, not in the pure form.


19 posted on 02/25/2008 6:09:31 PM PST by Jemian ("I hate the media." ~~ Kayak)
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To: Jemian

Actually, no. The wifebeater brigade hasn’t come around yet- except for one post maybe, it was like mild verbal abuse.


20 posted on 02/25/2008 6:10:27 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Viguerie WANTS Republicans to lose, he WANTS to turn the entire country over to the Democrats, putting his ego ahead of the County.

Here it is from 2006:

Time For Us To Go

Conservatives on why the GOP should lose in 2006.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0610.forum.html

Let’s quit while we’re behind
By Christopher Buckley

Bring on Pelosi
By Bruce Bartlett

And we thought Clinton had no self-control
By Joe Scarborough

Give divided government a chance
By William A. Niskanen

Restrain this White House
By Bruce Fein

Idéologie has taken over
By Jeffrey Hart

The show must not go on
By Richard A. Viguerie

For links to the individual articles go to the original link.

The show must not go on (2006)

By Richard A. Viguerie

“Conservatives are as angry as I have seen them in my nearly five decades in politics. Right now, I would guess that 40 percent of conservatives are ambivalent about the November election or want the Republicans to lose. But a Republican loss of one or both houses of Congress would turn power over to the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Dare we risk such an outcome?

And it may take a Republican defeat to bring about a complete change in the GOP leadership in Washington. Without such a change, real conservatives will never come to power.”


21 posted on 02/25/2008 6:14:30 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

Here’s a vanity from me:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1509680/posts

Got a problem with that?


22 posted on 02/25/2008 6:16:11 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: Jemian

And very soon, we will see replies on this thread which I call “The Abusive Husband Mantra.” It is some variant of, ‘If you don’t vote republican, we will have a marxist in the White House. It will be your fault....’
Probably been posted before I had a chance to get this out.


I think you are the first to bring it up.

Unfortunately the Abusive Husband Mantra still exists here...the problem is that the espousers of the AHM are the real problem...and why we get RINOs all the time


23 posted on 02/25/2008 6:18:23 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (You know what they call a McCain supporter? A Liberal)
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To: Jemian

LOL! They’ll be along shortly to screech at us. We should offer an award for the most imaginative personal attack. One deranged Freeper told me I was personally responsible for the next terrorist attack, one he hoped involved me and my family being injured or killed. He gets points for originality.

Let’s see, then there’s the “we’re all gonna be nuked right after we’re forced to convert to Islam” hyperventilating. That’s always amusing. And yet we’re called childish.

I will work as hard as I can to get conservatives elected downticket. But I’ve held my nose for the last time.


24 posted on 02/25/2008 6:20:15 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (I will offer a choice, not an echo. Barry Goldwater)
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To: FocusNexus

By the way, here’s the last article he wrote: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1964949/posts


25 posted on 02/25/2008 6:20:36 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: ovrtaxt; billva

I noted that in my post #19. I didn’t note that we came close in post #15. Billva, you stopped short of saying that we brought this whole thing onto ourselves. But it was close, mighty close.

It IS the fault of the republican party for giving conservatives empty promises and outright backstabs that we are looking for true conservatives. We have been lied to and manipulated long enough.


26 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:56 PM PST by Jemian ("I hate the media." ~~ Kayak)
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To: ovrtaxt

Tom Coburn already endorsed McCain.

It’s time for other conservatives to smell reality, before they will have to smell President Obama.


27 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:10 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Jemian

How true. Speaking of being manipulated, google McCain’s “Reform Institute” and “open primaries.” This conspiracy’s a fact, not a theory.


28 posted on 02/25/2008 6:24:44 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (I will offer a choice, not an echo. Barry Goldwater)
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To: FocusNexus

Oh for crying out loud, ‘President Obama’ ‘president Hillary’ bla bla bla. Look, here’s the real issue, as spelled by by evil arch-dirtbag Quigley-

“The chief problem of American political life...has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”

~Carroll Quigley, ‘Tragedy and Hope’


29 posted on 02/25/2008 6:27:42 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: Jemian

Let them, they won’t change my mind. I’m tired of having politicans begging for my help then stabbing me in the back. I can name quite a few so called conservatives that played the game described in the article and I’m fracking tired of dealing with it.

I no longer help campaigns for free. They want my help getting the gun vote, they can pay for the privledge of my assistance. I interview the candidate and I get their promises in writing. As many here know, I am one of the most staunch 2nd Amendment people around. I have a zero tolorance policy in regards to my 2nd Amendment rights and ANY compromise on that issue turns me completely off from a candidate.

I’m not happy with any of the presidential candidates that are out there now. All of them are willing to compromise my rights away and not a single one deserves to sit his or her ass in the chair in the oval office.

Frankly, as of late, politicans disgust me.

Mike


30 posted on 02/25/2008 6:28:26 PM PST by BCR #226 (The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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"They can't win without us"

Who can't win? The moderate, either a moderate pub or a moderate dem, will win.

The loser is the far left and the far right.

31 posted on 02/25/2008 6:28:40 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: ovrtaxt

btt


32 posted on 02/25/2008 6:29:49 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Ben Ficklin

moderate pub or a moderate dem = leftist.


33 posted on 02/25/2008 6:30:30 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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Spot on.


34 posted on 02/25/2008 6:33:09 PM PST by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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The moderate, either a moderate pub or a moderate dem, will win.

Do you really consider Obama moderate? I admit, he has not said much. However, allot of what he has said sound pretty radical.

35 posted on 02/25/2008 6:33:52 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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You can have all the fancy theories you want, but if it’s not based on reality, is no better, than if I expounded for a couple of pages about my theory that the moon is made of green cheese.

Reality is that we have a choice between McCain and Obama. McCain may leave a lot to be desired, but Obama with a Dem Congress will literally destroy the country and endanger our lives. Obama is a terrorist sympathizer socialist. Obama and the Dem Congress, which we already have and the majority will increase, are a clear and present danger to the country.

Real conservatives care about the country.


36 posted on 02/25/2008 6:34:28 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: ovrtaxt

bttt


37 posted on 02/25/2008 6:34:31 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: FocusNexus

So which conservative should I vote for.

Mccain is no conservative so that leaves him out.


38 posted on 02/25/2008 6:34:44 PM PST by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: ovrtaxt

All you left wing and right wing extremists need to form up an alliance to defeat the centrists. If you need presidential candidate, Ron Paul is available.


39 posted on 02/25/2008 6:35:13 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Have you got a list of the great moderats of history!


40 posted on 02/25/2008 6:36:53 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: outofstyle

Obama, even tho he denies it, is a DLC-New Democrat-Third-wayer


41 posted on 02/25/2008 6:37:53 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: LadyNavyVet
One deranged Freeper told me I was personally responsible for the next terrorist attack, one he hoped involved me and my family being injured or killed.

It probably won't be you and your family, but the next terrorist attack could very definitely be me and my family. We live and work in a moslem country.

42 posted on 02/25/2008 6:39:02 PM PST by Jemian ("I hate the media." ~~ Kayak)
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To: ovrtaxt

I’m with Vig. This Conservative won’t vote RINO anymore!!!


43 posted on 02/25/2008 6:39:03 PM PST by kevao
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For the millionth time: the choice is NOT between McCain and a conservative — conservatives ARE responsible for McCain, because they couldn’t make up their minds and split the conservative vote.

So now the only choice is McCain or Obama. If you are not supporting McCain, you WILL be responsible for Obama. Just as those who voted for Perot were the ones who elected BIll Clinton. Obviously some have learned nothing and now they will give us the United Socialist States of America.


44 posted on 02/25/2008 6:39:55 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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If you’re in a Muslim country, you’re at risk whoever is President. I’ll pray for you and your family.


45 posted on 02/25/2008 6:41:09 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (I will offer a choice, not an echo. Barry Goldwater)
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General, the Conservatives are winning the battle at the front gate, but Sir, the liberals and the rinos are leaving the back gate open....every-time one of the Conservatives runs back to fight off the enemy and close the back gate, the liberals and the rinos open the back gate back up...The liberals and rinos are being killed off by the hundreds by their own ignorance....General the Conservatives are in danger of being over-run from the rear because of the liberals and rinos...What should I do?

General takes one look around and says....After the liberals and rinos are dead.....close the back gate.

46 posted on 02/25/2008 6:45:47 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. TLWNWNTTRS)
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I noted that in my post #19. I didn’t note that we came close in post #15. Billva, you stopped short of saying that we brought this whole thing onto ourselves. But it was close, mighty close.

It IS the fault of the republican party for giving conservatives empty promises and outright backstabs that we are looking for true conservatives. We have been lied to and manipulated long enough.

No way did I say you brought the whole thing on yourselves. However that is pretty good statement if you would get your way and purge everyone you classify as a Rino I would expect you wouldn't have a very big party.

I believe in simple math, elections are close now, purge a significant amount of people and you can't win. Simple numbers.

Quit the victim stuff, the party didn't do anything to you, there wasn't enough people turned out to vote in a candidate that you like.

That's the question you need to deal with, why didn't all these conservative voters turn out to vote for a conservative? Not who did something to you.

47 posted on 02/25/2008 6:46:18 PM PST by billva
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To: FocusNexus
THERE IT IS. YOU'VE DONE. YOU WON THE PRIZE!!!

You are the first one to use the AHM ~ Abusive Husband Mantra!.

If you are not supporting McCain, you WILL be responsible for Obama.

Tell your cronies in the RNC that if they want MY vote, they need to run real conservatives.

48 posted on 02/25/2008 6:47:44 PM PST by Jemian ("I hate the media." ~~ Kayak)
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To: billva
That's the question you need to deal with, why didn't all these conservative voters turn out to vote for a conservative?

Ah, maybe because the voting began in liberal-leaning, open-primary states where independents and democrats could interfere in the GOP primary?

Do you really think the result would have been the same if the first primaries were held in conservative-leaning, closed primary states?

49 posted on 02/25/2008 6:53:10 PM PST by kevao
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To: FocusNexus

Obama is mccain is hitlery.

All 3 will get us to hell within 5 min of each other.

Republicans need to suffer and be punished for taking advantage of conservatives. I’m tired of voting for the lessor of evils.

Things are gonna get bad before they get better, if mccains at the helm repubs will get blamed and there will be no change.


50 posted on 02/25/2008 6:57:43 PM PST by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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