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Former SAS man condemns British role in torture tactics
The Guardian ^ | 26 February 2008 | Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 02/25/2008 5:47:18 PM PST by MadJack

Hundreds of Iraqis and Afghans captured by British and American special forces were rendered to prisons where they faced torture, a former SAS soldier said yesterday. Ben Griffin said individuals detained by SAS troops in a joint UK-US special forces taskforce had ended up in interrogation centres in Iraq, including the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, and in Afghanistan, as well as Guantánamo Bay. (BREAK) He said he had not himself witnessed torture or mistreatment. But he added: "I have no doubt in my mind that non-combatants I personally detained were handed over to the Americans and subsequently tortured."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iraq; rendition; sas; torture; uktroops
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Supposition and heresay. Watch for his book when you're passing through Gatwick in the next few months (sarcasm, but it wouldn't surprise me)
1 posted on 02/25/2008 5:47:19 PM PST by MadJack
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This guy’s a regular clown. Guarantee, he wouldn’t say that if he really did believe Americans were ready to snatch the bad guys up and torture them. After all, he’d be first on the list.


2 posted on 02/25/2008 5:49:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

3 posted on 02/25/2008 5:51:08 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: MadJack

Well, hey... as long as there is “no doubt” in his mind, that’s ok with me. I mean, even if he lacks a shred of evidence, it’t the seriousness of the charge that is most important. /major s

Wonder what the circumstances of his leaving the SAS were.


4 posted on 02/25/2008 5:51:20 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: MadJack

D’ya think Ben Griffin needs some attention?


5 posted on 02/25/2008 5:52:11 PM PST by Ken522
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To: MadJack

I wish we did torture.


6 posted on 02/25/2008 5:52:23 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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"I have no doubt in my mind that non-combatants I personally detained were handed over to the Americans and subsequently tortured."

So it was all your fault.

7 posted on 02/25/2008 5:52:24 PM PST by 386wt (Be free and don't die!)
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To: muawiyah

>>This guy’s a regular clown. Guarantee, he wouldn’t say that if he really did believe Americans were ready to snatch the bad guys up and torture them. After all, he’d be first on the list.<<

Agreed, Plus this is from the GUARDIAN, the anti American rag in the UK which called us stupid after voting for W in 04, and everyone of their articles lean extremely to the left.

This must be the Brit version of one of Obama’s “soldier” pals .


8 posted on 02/25/2008 5:52:34 PM PST by max americana
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“He said he had not himself witnessed torture or mistreatment.”

This is nothing. I would have the same amount of credibility if I said I was confident this guy makes love to sheep even though I have never witnessed it.


9 posted on 02/25/2008 5:52:46 PM PST by squidward
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Remember this is “seared into his memory.” Oh, that was Kerry in Cambodia.

Sorry!!


10 posted on 02/25/2008 5:56:46 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: MadJack

Sounds like this Limey has been brainwashed by the ilk of Pelosi!


11 posted on 02/25/2008 5:56:55 PM PST by Doctor Don
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Would it be torture to just shoot ‘em as they are caught?


12 posted on 02/25/2008 5:58:49 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: MadJack

Is this one of the British troops who were captured by Iranian gunboats?


13 posted on 02/25/2008 5:59:47 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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And I heard in an unclassified briefing from an FBI agent that we do not torture as we seek evidence that will actually hold up in court. Quite frankly, I’m going to trust the FBI.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 6:00:51 PM PST by glennshepard (Semper Fi)
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To: squidward

“this guy makes love to sheep”

I read it on the interweb. It must be true.


15 posted on 02/25/2008 6:01:53 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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This should give a little chuckle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHTjbdZqi84


16 posted on 02/25/2008 6:03:00 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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We have the right to do that under the Geneva Convention. Maybe we try that for a while and see how the islamofascists like their options.


17 posted on 02/25/2008 6:03:13 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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Does this guy know Marc Falkoff?

Falkoff's the Northern Illinois Professor and expert on terrorism who spread tales about Koran abuse and detainee abuse at Gitmo.

18 posted on 02/25/2008 6:05:59 PM PST by syriacus (When NIU prof M Falkoff speaks, mayhem follows.. like the riots after his Koran-abuse tales)
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RKV: Would it be torture to just shoot ‘em as they are caught?

CIDKauf: We have the right to do that under the Geneva Convention.

Don't the Geneva Conventions require a competent military tribunal to first determine if the subject qualifies as an "unlawful combatant"?

19 posted on 02/25/2008 6:12:55 PM PST by secretagent (When cooking frogs - don't bring to a boil too rapidly.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com He said he had not himself witnessed torture or mistreatment. But he added: "I have no doubt in my mind that non-combatants I personally detained were handed over to the Americans and subsequently tortured."

and i have never seen this wanker commit sodomy... but i have no doubt in my mind that he has!!!

20 posted on 02/25/2008 6:23:38 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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