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School Suspends Teens for Wearing Crucifixes
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| February 25, 2008
Posted on 02/25/2008 6:02:56 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos; All
The last sentence in the article excerpt says they do not ask students to remove items such as this without OTHER information leading them to think it is not simply a religious item.
Considering I have seen quite a few unsavory Hispanic characters I know are not exactly devout wearing crucifixes, I would not be surprised if some gangs do wear them.....it is a way to have a symbol that isn’t automatically assumed to be gang-related.
To: Mount Athos
School should be able to have any rule that they want; however, they have to treat everyone equally. If they can’t wear a crucifix on a necklace, then NO ONE can wear any jewelry at all. The suspension is ridiculous.
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posted on
02/25/2008 6:44:30 PM PST
by
DallasDeb
((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
To: American Infidel; Incorrigible
Indeed he did. The swastic (sp?) is a sanskrit symbol that has thousands of years of historical significance in Hinduism as do the Aryans, who were not necessarily white, blonde, blue eyed, etc. Hitler hijacked these things and changed the way the swastic and the term "aryan" are perceived forever. Correct. The swastika was very popular in the boom for "all things oriental/eastern" in American design back in the day. There are several buildings in Bayonne, NJ where the developer incorporated the swastika into the design that still stand. It was even featured on the world famous Corn Palace in 1907:
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posted on
02/25/2008 6:46:12 PM PST
by
Clemenza
(I live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Wrecks)
To: Mount Athos
"I was like, why?" Salazar said. That doesn't strike me as quite altar-boy grammar, somehow. Actually sounds more like a gang-itude.
I have great reverence for crucifixes, but I'll give the principal the benefit of the doubtunless it turns out he's an ACLU nut.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:08:51 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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You're so right. The swastika was an ancient symbol used by Native Americans that meant good luck, although it faced the opposite direction and was not tilted like the Nazi Hakenkreuz was.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:09:31 PM PST
by
Emperor Palpatine
("There is no civility, only politics.")
To: Clintonfatigued
You really can’t make stuff like this up.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:09:35 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Clintonfatigued
A crucifix is a gang symbol?
Who woulda guessed?
We certainly can’t have the kind of gangs running around lose like Jesus did.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:11:47 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Mount Athos
"We're not trying to squash any religious symbols and we're not trying to get into religion, but we are trying to get into student safety, and that's what we're really concerned about," Haggart said. And how is banning a crucifix about student safety?
If they tried that around here, the principal would be tarred and feathered and the superintendent wouldn't have enough hours in the day to deal with the irate parents.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:13:44 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: metmom
And every kid in the school would wear one the next day.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:14:16 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Mike Darancette
That looks much like the Kartouche’s that one could have made up in Ryadh; of course, I never saw any quite like that design for sale there.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:21:19 PM PST
by
MSF BU
(++)
To: mware
Too bad you couldn’t have collected them all after school and made them recite the whole program, with each mystery.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:23:12 PM PST
by
MSF BU
(++)
To: MSF BU
There ya go.
Actually I was not a Catholic when that incident occured but I was heading down the road towards home.
I mention to a couple of the kids when they complained that rosary beads were not an article to be worn as a fashion statement but as a sign of your faith and a prayer aid.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:27:38 PM PST
by
mware
(Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
To: Mount Athos
Why was the kid even wearing a Rosary? It’s not jewelry, it’s a tool used for prayer. Unless he’s contemplating a religious life and prays frequently during the day, there really is no reason for him to wear it.
Now, that having been said, we homeschool so if my kids want to wear their Rosary I don’t have to even think about whether or not it is gang related!
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:30:13 PM PST
by
samiam1972
(It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.)
To: Mount Athos
“Salazar said Principal Chris Equinoa saw his necklace and told him to put it away.”
I had no idea that Chris Equinoa is a Saudi.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:33:20 PM PST
by
353FMG
(Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
To: 353FMG
I know, my kids use all sorts of different bandanna colors, too.
We have blue shirts “crips” and red jackets “bloods” and we are just ALL messed up.
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posted on
02/25/2008 7:34:15 PM PST
by
Marie2
(I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
To: Soliton
I support the school officials in this too. There are undiscussed variables in this, that it is a gang sign. Just would like proof that these Jr Hi kids really loved the Lord ....
I work with kids that age...
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:29:27 PM PST
by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: Morgana
If gangs are such a problem, ban the gang members, not the gang get-up.
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:36:29 PM PST
by
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posted on
02/25/2008 9:17:29 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
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posted on
02/25/2008 9:20:19 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
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