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Is it time for conservatives to support McCain?
Intellectual Conservative ^ | Feb. 25, 2008 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 02/25/2008 9:55:55 PM PST by FocusNexus

Unless one of Huckabee's miracles happens, McCain will be the Republican nominee for president. As other presidential candidates have dropped out, some conservatives, such as Senator and former presidential candidate Sam Brownback from Kansas and Jonah Goldberg from National Review have decided to support him. But many conservative Republicans including Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and James Dobson have continued to hold out on supporting him, and may continue to do so right up until the general election.

For those conservatives who have refrained from supporting McCain because he has too many negatives, they must decide whether those negatives outweigh the negatives of having a Democrat in office.

Even so, the most important issue facing the U.S. today is terrorism. McCain has promised to be tough on terrorism and keep our troops in Iraq until we're assured of stability. The thought of Barack Obama handling our approach to terrorism should send chills down anyone's spine. Hillary Clinton wouldn't be much better, because her motive on the war on terror is to score a legacy for herself.

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To: Texas Eagle
No. It’s time for McCain to convince us to vote for him.

That is my position as well. Unless McCain publicly admits that McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy were contrary to the Constitution and that he was wrong to have promoted them, I cannot vote for him. If an evil Democrat is elected because I failed to vote for McCain, it will not be my fault. It will be because McCain, by not publicly acknowledging the wrongness of his attacks on the Constitution, did not convince me to vote for him.

101 posted on 02/26/2008 4:52:42 AM PST by John McDonnell
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To: backtothestreets
The question this thread poses is if it is time conservatives perform for McCain. What it deftly overlooks is that McCain is a top ranking US Senator and could be introducing and pushing legislation right now that would win him conservative support. The burden of proof should be on McCain, not conservatives.

McCain will do nothing of the sort because he isn't a conservatives. In fact he hates conservatives. He isn't moderate, he's an enemy of conservatives on every issue but the war and abortion.

And those who are hoping he will sign some kind of "Contract with Conservatives" where he flip flops on everything he's ever stood for, forget it. If he was able to sign such a contract honestly he wouldn't have to.

102 posted on 02/26/2008 4:54:52 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint
"He isn't moderate, he's an enemy of conservatives on every issue but the war and abortion."

I'm of the opinion the ONLY reason he now says he supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent is because he knows it is highly unlikely Congress will make them permanent. He's giving them lip services when he could be in the Senate making every effort to make them permanent.
103 posted on 02/26/2008 5:06:37 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: backtothestreets
I'm of the opinion the ONLY reason he now says he supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent is because he knows it is highly unlikely Congress will make them permanent. He's giving them lip services when he could be in the Senate making every effort to make them permanent.

It's even simpler than that. McCain has flip flopped on the tax cuts because, since he's against closing the borders, tax cuts are the only strong Republican issue he has to run on in November. If he came out against tax cuts in the general election he'd suffer a historic McGovernite defeat rather than the landslide defeat he's going to get.

104 posted on 02/26/2008 5:12:54 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: FocusNexus

The argument always boils down to, “Vote for McCain. He sucks bad, but not quite as bad as that other guy.”

Not exactly a winning bumper sticker slogan.


105 posted on 02/26/2008 6:12:54 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (I will offer a choice, not an echo. Barry Goldwater)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

It’s a good argument, I confess.


106 posted on 02/26/2008 6:16:19 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: FocusNexus
McCain has promised to be tough on terrorism

McCain has promised to close Gitmo, require interrogator to say please and thank you, clog US courst with foreign combatants and open the Southern border.

Tell me that part about tough on terrorism again.

107 posted on 02/26/2008 6:23:06 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: DennisR
Let’s see... Obama: Number 1 liberal Senator, Socialist, cult leader, husband of someone who has just now become proud of the United States of America, wants medical care for everyone except babies who survived an attempt to abort them Clinton: Number 6 liberal Senator, Socialist, loves Nanny state, wife of a perjured pervert (which pervert would love to take up in his former residence, the White House) McCain: Pro-life, will be tough with the budget, probably okay for Supreme Court nominations, good with military, has a wife who loves this country. Yes, I have problems with him, but far, far less than with the first two.

In short, yes - the time is now to support McCain. With money and with time.

Oh oh, you are in trouble with the quitters here! You are way to logical for them, they thrive on emotion and negativity.

However to me your post makes a lot of sense and is the way I feel.

108 posted on 02/26/2008 6:24:49 AM PST by billva
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To: DB
"Who he picks for VP will influence whether or not I vote for McCain."

No slight intended, but I had thought about that myself. I concluded it would be akin to placing a bet on a football team because of who their second string quarterback was rather than their starting quarterback. That's a bet I would never make.
109 posted on 02/26/2008 6:28:55 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: DennisR
I MAY, (note: MAY), support McCain with my vote.
I refuse to support the backstabber with my time or money.
110 posted on 02/26/2008 6:29:17 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: FocusNexus

Here’s a man who’s entire career has been spent “Working With The Left”

“I can work with my friends across the aisle.”

Fine. If that’s such a virtue, the sell it to me, and I promise I will vote for John McCain.

I want a list of the progress made by moderates on the following issues directly resultant from working with liberals:

1. Abortion
2. Small Government
3. Tax Issues (AMT, Marriage Penalty, Death Tax, etc.)
4. Supreme Court
5. National Defense
6. Immigration and Trade
7. Strict interpretation of the Constitution

Look, I’m willing to be convinced that working with the left is viable, and that McCain has built his entire career around it.

My view is that with McCain we get 12 to 16 years of unremittant liberalism. With a liberal in office we get 4 to 8.

Again, school’s in session, and I’m willing to learn.


111 posted on 02/26/2008 6:29:57 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: TigersEye

ABM . . . you mean Barack Osama? Right? Idiot.


112 posted on 02/26/2008 7:10:32 AM PST by BabaOreally
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To: rabscuttle385

“That said, I am not voting for Hillary or Obama either”.

Well at least we have that in common.


113 posted on 02/26/2008 7:38:36 AM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: King of Florida
That vid is going to be posted here by a lot more Freepers then me before the election.

Welcome to NY 2010 under the new Obama defense plan....


114 posted on 02/26/2008 7:52:15 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Republic of Texas

63% of 2% isn’t a deal breaker.


115 posted on 02/26/2008 9:46:47 AM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: BabaOreally
Here's your idiot.

Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Would you be for or against McCain?
Member Opinion
against 92.4% 2,989
for 7.6% 247

McCain: Hillary Would Be Good President Feb. 2005

How John McCain Threatens the Pro-Life Cause By Douglas Johnson NRLC Legislative Director

More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)

McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up

Tom Delay On Faux "McCain Has Done More To Hurt The Party" VIDEO

John McCain: "My Conservative Record" YouTube VIDEO

McCain and 'the Constitution'

John McCain, Jack Kemp and Hugo Chavez.

MORE GUN CONTROL: McCAIN-LIEBERMAN FR April '01

Gun Owners of America on McCain's Record.

GUNS AND SCHOOLS: THE POLITICS (McCain tries to grab guns, 1999)

CITIZENS COMMITTEE URGES JOHN McCAIN TO RETIRE FROM UNITED STATES SENATE
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA)

John McCain Losing His Cool YouTube video

Vietnam Veterans Against McCain YouTube video

McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia Mr. Blackhawk Down (YouTube VIDEO)

McCain Group Got Big Cable Donation Breath taking corruption, Senator!

THE PAMPERED POLITICIAN - John McCain Keating 5 and other things. FR Nov. '99

McCain gives nod to Kerry campaign (MAJOR RINO ALERT!) June 2003

MAFIA, EMPRISE, DELAWARE NORTH, DON BOLLES, BRUCE BABBITT, BILL CLINTON...AND JOHN McCAIN?
McCain married into the mob.

The Real McCain

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II

John McCain Is No Hero

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

JOHN MCCAIN, WARTS AND ALL

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)

McCain Seeks to Change California Primary

John McCain funded by Soros since 2001

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero

McCain-Soros Toppled GOP Candidates Nov. 21, 2006

Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)

John McCain: George Soros' Useful Idiot?

Through The Weeds; John McCain, George Soros and the Reform Institute

McCain’s Reform Institute donor list:

Reform Institute greatfully acknowleges Sen. McCain as past Chairman:

McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)

The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)

Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)

McCain: Global warming is fact, must be addressed [hurl alert]

McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming (NH voter reminder ALERT

EIA's Analysis of the Lieberman-McCain Climate Change Bill Human Events

McCain's Nose-Under-the-Tent Strategy - McCain's "Climate Stewardship Act" (S. 139), co-sponsored with Senator Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)

Kyoto Through the Back Door? A Debate on the Lieberman –McCain Climate Stewardship Act - Heritage Foundation

Promising Vote on Global Warming - "But Mr. McCain, as we know, does not give up easily. ... He promises to be just as tenacious on this issue."

McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists

Captains of Industry Could Populate McCain Cabinet ( Lieberman Potential Cabinet Member)

McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)

McCain calls Jeffords' switch lesson for GOP FR May '01

McCain Antics Weary Arizonans in G.O.P. FR June '01

McCain may leave Republican Party to fight Bush in 2004 FR July '01

How Bill Kristol ditched conservatism. Great Escape (Gave floundering McCain 2000 campaign a direction.)

McCain may leave Republican Party to fight Bush in 2004
His staff set up policy think-tanks and other groups to lay the ideological foundations for another third-party challenge in the Bull Moose style.

McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats

John McCain Goes Left for Money

McCain, Obama Make Deal on Financing

Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain

John Kerry: McCain Approached Me About Joining Dem Ticket in 2004

Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP

McCain denies he was close to quitting GOP

Double Talk Express. McCain in his own words. VIDEO

John McCain's Newt Problem (Infidelity to first wife.)

How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction(stole drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team) (McCain used his influence to cover it up.)

McCain and his Chicom Connections: Posts #17 and #18 by Calpernia

TEN REASONS NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN (Free Republic thread from 2000)

McCain Ties to Lobbyists Troublesome - Newsmax Staff

McCain Blames Bush For Osama's Escape

McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)

The Real McCain Record Obstacles in the way of conservative support.

McCain Is the Amnesty Candidate

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

It depends on the meaning of “never” (McCain's Convenient Memory)

UN Double Talk from Straight Talker McCain (Law of the Sea Treaty)

The Conservative Case Against John McCain In 2008

John McCain: Hypocrite by Mark R. Levin

This Man is Not a Republican (re: McCain) (FR thread - Jan. 2000)

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands... (...with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.)

John McCain armed Kosovo Islamic terrorists

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

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McCain says:

"Why don't you shut your political pie hole?"

Stifling the www? Online Freedom of Speech Act (H.R. 1606)

"1606 is needed because federal courts have ordered the Federal Election Commission to regulate "electioneering communications" on the Internet because of the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act (McCain-Feingold). If H.R. 1606 fails to become law, your Web site or blog could be shut down for the 30 days prior to a primary election and the 60 days prior to a general election should you express "electioneering communications."

John McCain, enemy of free speech

Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts... (thread by Jim Robinson)

116 posted on 02/26/2008 10:47:29 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

Distortions, innuendo, Democrat lies, videos of the guy speaking brusquely, and truths like:

“McCain Blames Bush For Osama’s Escape “ ...Duh...

Yeah, sit home, bring on Obama, and wait for 2012 and the rescue....sure...

and JR, I agree with you 100%, but I’m no dupe or dummy....have we all seen the Obama 52 second video yet?


117 posted on 02/26/2008 12:26:00 PM PST by BabaOreally
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To: Texas Eagle

No.


118 posted on 02/26/2008 12:28:22 PM PST by nygoose
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To: BabaOreally
Here are a bunch more links to distortions, innuendo and Democrat lies...mostly published by conservative journals like the other ones.

FR links on McCain's record from Feb. 2000. MrChips collection.

119 posted on 02/26/2008 2:54:39 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: backtothestreets

Read all of what I said. “My strong inkling is NO”.

For example what if McCain picked Bolton as his VP?

Will Bolton bend over for McCain like Lieberman did for Gore?

Now on the other end of the spectrum what happens if McCain picks Lieberman? For me, that solidifies my NO vote.

How long is McCain going to live? His health is not great.

So who McCain picks for VP is a factor, even if not a strong one. We are facing Obama as being our next President.


120 posted on 02/26/2008 3:28:24 PM PST by DB
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To: TigersEye
We are facing Obama as being our next President.
Yup. So let's wait for 2012 .... to fix things..
121 posted on 02/26/2008 4:30:34 PM PST by BabaOreally
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To: BabaOreally
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122 posted on 02/26/2008 5:08:56 PM PST by TigersEye (This account under review.)
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