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Is Kosovo Serbia? We ask a historian
guardian.co.uk ^ | February 26 2008 | Noel Malcolm

Posted on 02/26/2008 12:42:59 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 03/10/2008 3:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"Kosovo is Serbia", "Ask any historian" read the unlikely placards, waved by angry Serb demonstrators in Brussels on Sunday. ...

History, for the Serbs, started in the early 7th century, when they settled in the Balkans. Their power base was outside Kosovo, which they fully conquered in the early 13th, so the claim that Kosovo was the "cradle" of the Serbs is untrue.


(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clintonswar; dhimmapologist; dhimmitude; europe; illegalimmigrants; islamofascists; jihad; jihadapologist; kosovo; serbia; worldhistory
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1 posted on 02/26/2008 12:43:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

250 years. So only as Serbian as say . . . all of the states of the United States are American.


2 posted on 02/26/2008 12:44:37 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Wall off the muslims. Then let them fight. /half sarcasm
3 posted on 02/26/2008 12:46:31 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Texas is a breakaway Republic.

Should it be returned?


4 posted on 02/26/2008 12:48:27 PM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great for the libs why is Obama doing so well?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What would a Turk historian say? Many at first thought the Archduke had been assassinated by a Turk because of the loss of Kosovo.


5 posted on 02/26/2008 12:50:05 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Greg F

Florida was Spanish for 250 years. Things change.


6 posted on 02/26/2008 12:50:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Florida was traded to Britain for Cuba.


7 posted on 02/26/2008 12:55:05 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Arizona, New Mexico, California, Colorado, Texas were once Mexican Territory, now they are American. In a few years they’ll be Mexican again. Get over it.. things change.


8 posted on 02/26/2008 12:56:13 PM PST by gitmogrunt (Maybe blind in one eye, and half your brain tied behind your back?)
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To: Greg F

Started reading, then saw that it was from the Guardian. Folks, that paper is the “Air America” of the UK. Only, it’s even less truthful...if that’s possible. Take the really, really low scorers in the UK university testing system and hire them...there - you have the Guardian reporters and editors.


9 posted on 02/26/2008 1:01:24 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"than there is between the Byzantine Empire and Greece."

More than a few Greeks might take umbrage with this statement.

BTW, you've posted a lot of interesting articles today. Appreciated.

10 posted on 02/26/2008 1:07:02 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: gitmogrunt

What a terrible precedent it was for us to support the separation of those states from the sovereign Christian nation of Mexico, in violation of international law, and overstepping our UN mandate. That’s really going to come back and bite us in the ass.


11 posted on 02/26/2008 1:10:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Greg F
Florida was traded to Britain for Cuba.

???
I thought it traded to the US for the western half of Oklahoma and and player to be named later...
... that's after badass Any Jackson invaded spanish held Florida without the consent of the POTUS.

12 posted on 02/26/2008 1:16:48 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

1763 Spain cedes Florida to England in exchange for Havana, Cuba as part of a bargain in the settlement of the Seven Years’ War. The east and west territories of Florida become the 14th and 15th British colonies in the Americas.

1776 American Revolution.

1784 Spain regains control of Florida from England as part of a peace treaty that ended the American Revolution.

1817-1818 First Seminole War.

1821 The United States acquires Florida from Spain as part of a deal to cancel $5 million in debts owed by the Spanish. Florida becomes a territory of the United States.


13 posted on 02/26/2008 1:19:28 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yes, TGunner,We’re much better off living under guidelines, mandates, and the planned tyranny of the United Nations, instead of this sovereign nation stuff./sarc.


14 posted on 02/26/2008 1:23:35 PM PST by gitmogrunt (Maybe blind in one eye, and half your brain tied behind your back?)
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To: NoLibZone
"should it be returned"

Do you seriously believe that it will not be?

15 posted on 02/26/2008 1:23:55 PM PST by isrul
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"things change"

Maybe come full circle with FL becoming "spanish" again in the not too distant future..

16 posted on 02/26/2008 1:26:19 PM PST by isrul
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If Noel Malcolm is a historian so is David Irving. This guy is a paid anti-Serb propagandist.


17 posted on 02/26/2008 1:32:31 PM PST by Witch-king of Angmar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think the problem is more complicated than a simple recounting of who controlled what & when. Kosovo is a symbol to the Serbs in the way that Valley Forge is to us, or the Alamo was to Texas. It’s kinda hard to yield territory that is all rolled-up with the narrative of your national identity.


18 posted on 02/26/2008 1:33:27 PM PST by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Slavs, from whom present-day Serbians descended, showed up in the Balkans, including what is now known as Bosnia, Montenegro, and Kosovo, at the end of the 4th century A.D. - not the 7th. By the end of the 12th century, Kosovo was the cultural and administrative center of the Nemanjic dynasty which ruled the Serbian “state.”
19 posted on 02/26/2008 1:45:11 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Article was written by an Islamofacist apologist. The "historian" admits that Kosovo was completely Serbian for 250 years, but then somehow found the lunacy to assert that because the Muslims managed to defeat the Serbs and wrest parts of Kosovo from them that their conquest means that Kosovo is legitimately a Muslim state. The truth is that the Serbs never stopped their fight to regain their land, and in 1912 they finally conquered the Ottomans and retook Kosovo.

All one needs to do to see that Kosovo is Serbian terrirtory is look at the names of the Kosovo streets, parks and commons. Most of them are Serbian names. And even though the devil worshipping Muslims have burned down many ancient Christian Churches in Kosovo, many of these ancient Churches still remain. The name "Kosovo" itself means 'field of the blackbirds', the site where a battle between Christian Serbs and Islamofacists took place in 1389. Kosovo was a strategically important trade crossroads; and the Islamofacists defeated the Serbs in this battle, but decided to retreat after their victory, leaving the Serbs in partial control of Kosovo.

20 posted on 02/26/2008 1:58:44 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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