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Video shows Gilbert bus driver, student in physical fight
ABC15 ^ | 2/25/2008 | Nicole Beyer

Posted on 02/26/2008 2:19:42 PM PST by freedomwarrior998

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To: Morgana

It’s a pity that your father never taught you to stand up for your family if they are being physically assaulted.


51 posted on 02/26/2008 4:08:24 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Morgana

Morgana, I don’t know what to say to you. I don’t trust easily but some of your posts...., you just have to do what works best for you but if you intrust her care with others then you need to support their decisions. If this had been my daughter I would have made her apologize to the bus driver, fixed her phone with 4 numbers...mine, dad’s, the preachers and 911 and rode the bus with her a few times.


52 posted on 02/26/2008 4:10:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: freedomwarrior998
this is the Obama generation.....scream, and swear and demand and intimidate until you get your way...

I think the bus driver didn't handle it very well...she backed herself into a corner and couldn't get out...

the girl appears to me to be a typical valley girl who probably always got her way at home...

but what I LOVE is the dtr coming up and defending her mom......absolutely heroic..

I see at the end 3 or 4 kids stayed on the bus, and one went to see if the bus driver is okay.....so there is hope ...

the bus driver had asked for help and she didn't get it ......

53 posted on 02/26/2008 4:22:48 PM PST by cherry
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To: Ann Archy

I went to an old fashioned grade school and the last thing in the world you would want is for them to call your mother....your mother and father just about always backed the teacher....the less your mom and dad knew about what you did at school, the better.....


54 posted on 02/26/2008 4:25:14 PM PST by cherry
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To: Morgana
It doesn’t matter why the driver took the phone.

The driver didn't take the phone.

Taylor repeatedly yelled at Sullivan to "stop touching me" and called her mother on her cell phone.

Sullivan said she was calling police.

The altercation escalated when Taylor handed Sullivan her phone to speak with her mother, and Sullivan tossed the phone aside.

Video Catches Bus Driver Fighting With Student

55 posted on 02/26/2008 4:26:09 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Morgana
beat it....the dtr did what I hope I would have done in that situation or what I hope my dtr would do for me.....

the dtr sat there on her hands for a long time listening to the verbal abuse from that strung out looney.....

56 posted on 02/26/2008 4:27:56 PM PST by cherry
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To: MississippiMan

BINGO!


57 posted on 02/26/2008 4:44:14 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: CindyDawg

I could be wrong but it looks like the bus driver made the first move on the student. Then all hell broke loose. 4 will be charged including the driver...I say good!


58 posted on 02/26/2008 4:47:41 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

I say all school bus drivers ought to go on strike until charges are dropped against the bus driver and her daughter. Let moms/dads who say “good” haul their little darlins around awhile.


59 posted on 02/26/2008 4:53:54 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I have to disagree after watching the video over and over...The teen who started the ruckus certainly needs to be suspended from riding the bus and from attending class.. Apparently she was on the phone with her mom and wanted to get off at a certain stop. That, usually in the past has not been a problem...The problem is the student lied to the driver about her name. Generally here, the driver doesn’t put up a fuss on where a student gets dropped off. The driver and believe me we are desperate to hire anyone who will apply for bus drivers here. (I certainly wouldn’t want the job in this day and age.) The driver should have called this in if she felt there was a problem rather than turning it into a total brawl first. The driver also crossed the line here along with her own daughter.. They are all guilty here as far as I can determine. I say charge em all and make an example!


60 posted on 02/26/2008 5:07:02 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: CindyDawg

BTW, I would never let my kid on a public screwl bus..But, again, I have a choice that is not difficult to make.


61 posted on 02/26/2008 5:09:21 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

The little brat should have shut her mouth, answered the bus drivers question and then been done with it. All these kids are thinking they are being “dissed” when anyone presents authority into a situation.


62 posted on 02/26/2008 5:26:02 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: roostercogburn

I don’t discount that. I believe the driver has the same personality...Just look at the daughter she raised who got involved.


63 posted on 02/26/2008 5:34:08 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: Ann Archy

My bratty, spoilded, arrogant, babied, foul mouthed, never is wrong as*hole child should be allowed to do whatever she want just as she is allowed to do at home.


64 posted on 02/26/2008 5:50:41 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Ann Archy

My bratty, spoilded, arrogant, babied, foul mouthed, never is wrong as*hole child should be allowed to do whatever she wants just as she is allowed to do at home.


65 posted on 02/26/2008 5:51:05 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: hope

Not too bright, are you? The daughter watched her mother being treated like garbage from a snot-nosed spoiled brat. It’s obvious the person with the problem personality is the idiot who wouldn’t sit down (and her mother for raising such a moron). Thank goodness the daughter had the decency to stand up and defend her mother.

I hope you haven’t reproduced, because I’d hate to see their personality/ies in public.


66 posted on 02/26/2008 5:51:55 PM PST by dbreidenbach
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To: freedomwarrior998

This type of stuff would never happen when I was a kid- times were a lot different. Bus drivers were treated with respect. In my day, bus drivers were on the same level as teachers. In fact, at my school, bus drivers were pretty high on the totem pole, and school officials more or less left them to their own devices. You would often see them swaggering through the halls, smacking students right and left for no reason. If you had a radio or sweater a driver liked, he would push you against the wall and take it away. They always hung out together and wore leather jackets that said “Bus Driver” on the back. They would threaten you, give you tittie twisters and snap your suspenders. In fact, if you ever hear some old geezer claim he walked 20 miles a day to school- well, it was only because he was afraid of the bus driver. A lot of kids probably didn’t like them, but I gotta admit- they were tough, but fair.


67 posted on 02/26/2008 5:52:06 PM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: hope
I don’t discount that. I believe the driver has the same personality...Just look at the daughter she raised who got involved.

OMG!! If my mom was being attacked by a kid, I would certainly come to her defense!! Are you a kid who WOULDN'T try to protect your mom?? GODD FREAKING GRIEF!

68 posted on 02/26/2008 5:58:53 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Look at the video...The driver made the first move phsically...I can see that all were wrong here. The driver should have handled the matter in a manner that did not cause a brawl...She was definately as guilty as the teen who wanted off the bus. And watch how her daughter defends using the F-word and then calls the 15 year old a a bitch. Makes one wonder if this has not been brewing for some time...The driver is unfit to handle her bus and the action by her own child is an example of that.


69 posted on 02/26/2008 6:32:00 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: Ann Archy
"Are you a kid who WOULDN'T try to protect your mom?? GODD FREAKING GRIEF!"

That comment took me a few to sink in...

What a pathetic outcome you perpetuate. For God's sake get a grip on reality here.

70 posted on 02/26/2008 6:38:21 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

If you had been the bus driver how would you have handled things?


71 posted on 02/26/2008 6:38:30 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Ann Archy

WE are just reping what we sowed, Ann, Just reaping the seeds that were sowed in the 60’s.


72 posted on 02/26/2008 6:43:03 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

Many of us were raised in the 60’s. What happened? We aren’t all self centered.


73 posted on 02/26/2008 6:57:44 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
one version

I have seen many videos on my local Fox 10 station. If I were the driver I would have called in to the school the disruptive student and then the police. The driver handled it completely wrong. I am glad all 4 involved are being charged. The police made the right decision.

74 posted on 02/26/2008 6:58:52 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

We know you are glad. She called in serveral times. My question is how would you have kept her from getting off the bus?


75 posted on 02/26/2008 7:02:55 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

The driver locked the doors..No one was getting off that bus. The driver struck the phone out of the students hand..First mistake in my opinion. The student went after her phone and proceeded to tell her mother what was going on when the drive pushed her back. Now tell me that was an appropriate action by the driver. Four are charged. Four handled it completely wrong. Four should be charged.


76 posted on 02/26/2008 7:11:43 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

Are you not going to answer the question? What would you have done?


77 posted on 02/26/2008 7:15:05 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I thought I made it clear that striking the student was wrong. I would not have done that. I would have called the proper channels and waited until they arrived and made sure no one got off that bus. The bus was locked by the driver and no one was getting on or off that bus. That is what is suppose to happen.


78 posted on 02/26/2008 7:17:48 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: CindyDawg
I wish I knew.

I was raised in the 60’s also.

The people I was raised were not like that.

I went to public school and had good teachers that taught us both academically and practically. We respected the Servicemen/women.

We were raised in a small town rural setting, I don't know if that made a difference or not.

79 posted on 02/26/2008 7:25:39 PM PST by sport
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To: hope
Ok you would have called. She did. You wouldn't have struck her. She didn't. Hope, I wonder if you know what a strike really is. She showed great restraint by not slapping her foul mouth.

So you would not have touched her. Tell me how you would have kept her on the bus yourself..not what you think the driver did wrong. Remember if she reaches for the door bar you will have to move to avoid contact.

80 posted on 02/26/2008 7:29:12 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: sport

That may be part but somehow we had to have been raised differently.


81 posted on 02/26/2008 7:32:37 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

One video shows the driver slapping the phone from her. The student goes after the phone and then the brawl ensues. I suppose we have not seen the end of this investigation. From what I saw on that video the driver put her hands on the 14 year old and at one point shoved her back...Nope, you cannot convince me no matter what an ass that 14 year old was, that this driver is fit to handle her job.


82 posted on 02/26/2008 7:33:08 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: sport

The last thing I would want would be for my mom to find out that I got in trouble at school. I didn’t and I don’t know what I thought would happen but it was to be avoided.


83 posted on 02/26/2008 7:35:14 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: MississippiMan
We had a generation of kids who grew up with essentially zero discipline.

Most of them have grown up with a pack mentality because they were raised in a crowded daycare from infancy for 10 hrs. a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year, deprived of their mother's attention. A very uncivilized way to bring up children.

84 posted on 02/26/2008 7:38:25 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: hope

You have shared your opinion 7 times but have yet to answer my question. You can’t can you? You know that you could not have stopped her without touching her


85 posted on 02/26/2008 7:39:19 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: FrdmLvr

There was an administrator around here a few years ago that was retiring. Spotless record. The last day of school the students went wild. One girl spit in her face and instinctively, she slapped her. Mom was very upset. She said something like she had never laid a hand on this child before. Nuff said.


86 posted on 02/26/2008 7:42:33 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: hope

In the beginning the driver was stopped, out of her seat and was asking the girl why she was on the bus. The girl then got up to get off. The girl told her mother the bus driver was getting on to her about talking too loudly, but I could not hear the girl over the other students. Yes, the girl was being bratty, but she wasn’t being violent. The bus driver was the initial aggressor. She should have sat and waited for her backup. I agree the girl should be charged with disorderly, but the driver should be charged with assault as well. She did not handle the matter properly, at all.


87 posted on 02/26/2008 7:43:34 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: FrdmLvr

Yes, and the driver in authority and her own daughter seems to me are suffering the same mentality of that 14 year old on the bus.. What your saying didn’t just happen in the last 20 years...It goes beyond that.


88 posted on 02/26/2008 7:43:40 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: sport

I wonder how many went off to colleges and how many started families?


89 posted on 02/26/2008 7:44:17 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Do you want a pictre?


90 posted on 02/26/2008 7:45:13 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: CindyDawg

make that picture.


91 posted on 02/26/2008 7:46:25 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

No thanks. I already have one. We done here?


92 posted on 02/26/2008 7:46:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: PleaseNoMore

I know. It doesn’t take a hard look to see what happened here.


93 posted on 02/26/2008 7:47:23 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: CindyDawg

I’m satisfied with my conclusion.


94 posted on 02/26/2008 7:47:58 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: hope

Who was knocking on the bus door? The one girl says to the driver to “let the man on the bus and he can do something about it.”


95 posted on 02/26/2008 7:48:34 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore

According to 911 tapes, several parents were trying to get on the bus when they saw the brawl. The door was locked...No one was getting on or off.


96 posted on 02/26/2008 7:50:45 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: FrdmLvr

That doesn’t explain why parents aren’t disciplined though. I agree with the other poster. This started in the 60’s. Something happened. Families for the most part was strong. Kids were disciplined at home and weren’t usually a problem at school. Something very bad happened.


97 posted on 02/26/2008 7:51:21 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: FrdmLvr

That doesn’t explain why parents aren’t disciplined though. I agree with the other poster. This started in the 60’s. Something happened. Families for the most part was strong. Kids were disciplined at home and weren’t usually a problem at school. Something very bad happened.


98 posted on 02/26/2008 7:51:26 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: FrdmLvr

That doesn’t explain why parents aren’t disciplined though. I agree with the other poster. This started in the 60’s. Something happened. Families for the most part was strong. Kids were disciplined at home and weren’t usually a problem at school. Something very bad happened.


99 posted on 02/26/2008 7:51:29 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: hope

I know :’(


100 posted on 02/26/2008 7:52:16 PM PST by CindyDawg
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