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Girl, 16, who murdered her newborn gets probation
Chicago Tribune ^ | 2-26-08 | Lolly Bowean

Posted on 02/26/2008 5:25:31 PM PST by dynachrome

A 16-year-old Sauk Village girl who suffocated her newborn daughter and placed the baby in the trash was sentenced to 5 years of probation and counseling in Cook County Juvenile Court on Tuesday.

..also sentenced the girl to complete 100 hours of community service at a day-care center.

...that the girl has had no problems at home and that she goes to tutoring after school for help in English.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: illinois; infanticide; moralabsolutes; murder
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I am speechless.
1 posted on 02/26/2008 5:25:35 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Simply revolting. WTF?


2 posted on 02/26/2008 5:26:29 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dynachrome

At the very least, she should be sterilized.


3 posted on 02/26/2008 5:26:36 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: dynachrome
also sentenced the girl to complete 100 hours of community service at a day-care center.

Not, I imagine, the day care center where the judge's kids are dropped off.

4 posted on 02/26/2008 5:28:59 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: dynachrome
Trying not to burst a blood vessel reading this.

Count on seeing this sociopath back in the system in 5 years.

5 posted on 02/26/2008 5:29:36 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: dynachrome
She murders a newborn baby, probably looking into that precious face. Then she is sentenced to do work in a day care center while she is being treated for PTSD, supposedly as a result of committing murder?

It is stories like this that make me glad I don't have too many more decades on this earth. What a society we have become.

6 posted on 02/26/2008 5:31:24 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Digital Sniper

“Count on seeing this sociopath back in the system in 5 years.”

How many more kids will she kill. Our justice system is broke.


7 posted on 02/26/2008 5:31:41 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: magslinger

Deftly put.


8 posted on 02/26/2008 5:32:41 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: pissant

“Gee, what was the crime that required you to be assigned to community service at the Acme Day Care Center?”

“Oh,just the usual. I suffocated my baby.”


9 posted on 02/26/2008 5:32:43 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

She murders a newborn baby, probably looking into that precious face. Then she is sentenced to do work in a day care center while she is being treated for PTSD, supposedly as a result of committing murder?

Some how I think she was mental before she did that! Do they not put people in padded cells anymore?


10 posted on 02/26/2008 5:32:50 PM PST by Morgana (Latest joke: Don't vote for Obama, Osama, or Chelsea's Mama!)
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To: dynachrome

Must be nice to have a vagina in this country. You can murder your child without worrying about the wishes of the father up until 6-9 months (depending on the state) for any reason you like and then even after the child is born you can still murder them in absolutely cold-blooded fashion, in spite of the fact the country is now set up to take abandoned children off the hands of irresponsible or uncaring mothers-—or if you want to keep it you can sock it the biological father for 18-21 years of support.

Compared to the likely sentence for a man who would AT LEAST have received SOME prison time.


11 posted on 02/26/2008 5:33:50 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: dynachrome

What is the judge’s political party?


12 posted on 02/26/2008 5:34:14 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: dynachrome

“Gee, what was the crime that required you to be assigned to community service at the Acme Day Care Center?”

“Oh,just the usual. I suffocated my baby.”


Most day cares are nothing better than a McDonalds when it comes to employees. Why does this community service NOT surprise me???


13 posted on 02/26/2008 5:34:43 PM PST by Morgana (Latest joke: Don't vote for Obama, Osama, or Chelsea's Mama!)
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To: wagglebee; narses

pro-life/moral absolutes ping!


14 posted on 02/26/2008 5:36:06 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Morgana

“She murders a newborn baby, probably looking into that precious face. Then she is sentenced to do work in a day care center while she is being treated for PTSD, supposedly as a result of committing murder?”

I wonder what day care center owner the judge will sentence with this girl to perform her public service.


15 posted on 02/26/2008 5:36:13 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I want to keep sucking air for a bit longer but I can’t imagine what kind of judge would see this case and say, “yeah, I know that you can pretty much LEGALLY abandon your child these days (partially to stop women from committing infanticide) and there IS the abortion option at SOME point during pregnancy, but golly gee, this is such a sad case. This young woman is childless mother and that’s gonna cause PTSD and her family will also need counseling.”

Meanwhile, a man can get angry, shake a baby too forcefully (but still less deliberate a death than suffocation) and he’ll get prison (though still not enough in most cases.)


16 posted on 02/26/2008 5:37:11 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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17 posted on 02/26/2008 5:37:46 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dynachrome

Why?


18 posted on 02/26/2008 5:37:59 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: dynachrome
...that the girl has had no problems at home and that she goes to tutoring after school for help in English.

Illegal?

19 posted on 02/26/2008 5:39:24 PM PST by montag813
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To: Skywalk

Must be nice to have a vagina in this country. You can murder your child without worrying about the wishes of the father up until 6-9 months (depending on the state) for any reason you like and then even after the child is born you can still murder them in absolutely cold-blooded fashion, in spite of the fact the country is now set up to take abandoned children off the hands of irresponsible or uncaring mothers-—or if you want to keep it you can sock it the biological father for 18-21 years of support.

Compared to the likely sentence for a man who would AT LEAST have received SOME prison time.


Most abortion doctors are men, keep that in mind.

As for child support, Don’t you dare blame the woman when you could have used a condom or had a vasectomy. She did not get pregnant by herself!


20 posted on 02/26/2008 5:40:14 PM PST by Morgana (Latest joke: Don't vote for Obama, Osama, or Chelsea's Mama!)
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To: dynachrome
I predicted this would happen.

Barack Obama with his HOPE and CHANGE are coming next.

From my blog...

"...Our respect for the sanctity of life has in the past, and has always been our greatest protection from the ultimate tyranny of an all-powerful state and yet in recent years we seem to have willingly subjugated ourselves by allowing the State to become the ultimate arbitrator in determinations of who is worthy of life and who is not. Having elevated the State on such a pedestal, we have in essence charted our own destiny, we have chosen the path that will ultimately lead to our own peril."

"In the years ahead, as the world tries desperately to cope with population increases, demographic imbalances, unemployment, and both external and internal threats from quasi-fascist movements such as Islamic fundamentalism it will be social order and stability that will become of paramount importance to many people, much more so than liberty or freedom. Having already placed their lives in the omnipotent hands of the State, is it really such a leap of logic for one to foresee that individuals in the near future will think nothing of sacrificing freedom for security?..."

continued...

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

21 posted on 02/26/2008 5:40:44 PM PST by expatguy ("An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - New & Improved - Now with Search)
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To: Digital Sniper

You think it will take her that long to get pregnant again? 100 hours of community service for disposing of her baby … BS!!!


22 posted on 02/26/2008 5:43:33 PM PST by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: montag813

English the subject, not English the language ... I’m pretty sure that’s what was meant.


23 posted on 02/26/2008 5:45:25 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Morgana

“As for child support, Don’t you dare blame the woman when you could have used a condom or had a vasectomy. She did not get pregnant by herself!”

It takes two to tango. In today’s legal climate the woman has all the control over her “body” and the man has nothing.

The women can use birth control as well. Perhaps if you start making women responsible they’ll stop giving it away to any guy that asks.


24 posted on 02/26/2008 5:46:12 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: dynachrome

A girl who smothered a baby is sentenced to work with babies??? Good God, where do the child molesters do their community service?? Elementary schools??? Where do they send rapists?? Battered women’s shelters??


25 posted on 02/26/2008 5:47:04 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: dynachrome
OK, so, according to the enlightened folks, life begins at

Conception

End of First Trimester

End of Second Trimester

Some time during the Third-Trimester

Birth

Life begins when the child entity becomes a client of the NEA?

26 posted on 02/26/2008 5:48:51 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: driftdiver
In today’s legal climate the woman has all the control over her “body” and the man has nothing

The man has control over HIS body, doesn't he? Well, keep your sperm away from women like that.

27 posted on 02/26/2008 5:51:09 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Morgana

Yes, I’m aware about abortion doctors.

But I’m talking about the double standard. Men are often the judges in family court cases and unjust laws (the VAWA, for example) were enacted by male legislators. So some males being complicit in this is irrelevant to the point.

As for responsibility, how can you make that claim when men are often lied to, the paternity even in a marriage is in doubt (but the man foolishly believes otherwise and legally unless he challenges almost immediately it’s HIS obligation) and they have no control over the product of that ‘responsibility.’

With responsibility comes rights too. You can’t say to a class of people that they’re JUST as responsible for a problem but they have no power over that situation and, in fact, can be obligated for the remainder of their productive years while the other party doesn’t need to weigh or consider such factors.

This is not even throwing in the double standard in sentencing for female violent offenders vs. male, the ease with which a man can be locked up or falsely accused (women rarely serve time for false accusations of rape or abuse,) and can be shotgunned to death for suggesting his wife wear high heels or ‘tart up’ a bit for a more exciting sex life (the Winkler murder case) or be run over repeatedly by his jealous soon-to-be-ex and have that same killer have advocates for her release.


28 posted on 02/26/2008 5:51:11 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Morgana

Maybe she was just another whore looking for another handout!


29 posted on 02/26/2008 5:51:32 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: dynachrome

A baby murderer sentenced to work with babies and small children? Isn’t that like sentencing a pedophile to work in a school cafeteria?


30 posted on 02/26/2008 6:03:01 PM PST by TNdandelion ("I have no doubt that Sen. Clinton would make a good President"--John McCain)
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To: BibChr

Thanks, it took a few tries before I came up with a way to say that without getting banned.


31 posted on 02/26/2008 6:03:04 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Perfect!!


32 posted on 02/26/2008 6:05:57 PM PST by TNdandelion ("I have no doubt that Sen. Clinton would make a good President"--John McCain)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Isn’t there something we can do about this judge? Unbelievable. What barbarity.


33 posted on 02/26/2008 6:06:59 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Isn’t there something we can do about this judge? Unbelievable. What barbarity.


34 posted on 02/26/2008 6:07:14 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: A_perfect_lady
Then keep your legs together and act like a_perfect_lady
35 posted on 02/26/2008 6:07:51 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Sorry...I think I might have misinterpreted your post
36 posted on 02/26/2008 6:11:04 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yah.....


37 posted on 02/26/2008 6:13:37 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Clintonfatigued

The judge should be sterilized first.


38 posted on 02/26/2008 6:23:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: dynachrome
I am speechless.

To the left, it is nothing more than a very late-term abortion...

39 posted on 02/26/2008 6:25:33 PM PST by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: dynachrome

This 16 year old should be aborted - now!


40 posted on 02/26/2008 6:30:23 PM PST by Wil H
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To: A_perfect_lady

“The man has control over HIS body, doesn’t he? Well, keep your sperm away from women like that.”

Sure he does, and notice I said it takes too. Don’t you support equal protection? Or do you suggest the current climate of special rights for women is appropriate.


41 posted on 02/26/2008 6:34:29 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: dynachrome

Simply a case of 4th trimester abortion...already legal in the Netherlands.


42 posted on 02/26/2008 6:41:22 PM PST by RouxStir (No Peeing Allowed in the Gene Pool.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; A_perfect_lady; Morgana

Any guy whose going to tell a woman to keep her legs together had better keep his fly zipped! If you’re willing to participate in a behavior that’s been pretty well-established to cause the creation of a baby, don’t act surprised and cheated and tricked and offended when it happens. This is the problem with the “contraceptive mentality”. A woman does not bear the obligation to prevent pregnancy for your convenience. If a man does not want to be a father, his responsiblity is NOT to use contraception, or to ask if she is, it is simply to NOT HAVE SEX.


43 posted on 02/26/2008 6:51:19 PM PST by baa39 (Help Sgt. Evan Vela! DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: dynachrome; Lijahsbubbe
..also sentenced the girl to complete 100 hours of community service at a day-care center.

Why? Because she did such a good job "taking care of" her own child, that she'd be useful in this baby barn also? Weeding out useless feeders, what?

Will any parent using this facility know about the kind of care dispensed at this place? Looks like an appendage of Hillary care.

44 posted on 02/26/2008 6:51:52 PM PST by Ezekiel
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To: wagglebee

You know society has reached a new low when mothers who kill their own children are treated so nonchalantly.


45 posted on 02/26/2008 6:54:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: driftdiver

An effective death penalty would be nice. She’s guilty and of absolutely no use to society. Don’t feed her, clothe her, care for her, or otherwise waste any money on her. Put her in a cattle chute and let her experience a pneumatic piston to the skull. Painless, which is better than she deserves, but it removes her from society and doesn’t cost the taxpayers much of anything.


46 posted on 02/26/2008 6:59:16 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: dynachrome

“100 hours of community service at a day-care center.”

What? So she can kill some more kids? A child molester has to stay away from kids, she kills and has to spend 100 hours around some one else’s kids. The Judge and probation system are nuts.


47 posted on 02/26/2008 7:03:01 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: flintsilver7

“An effective death penalty would be nice. She’s guilty and of absolutely no use to society.”

Something nice and painful seems appropiate.


48 posted on 02/26/2008 7:05:25 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: dynachrome
..also sentenced the girl to complete 100 hours of community service at a day-care center.

What?!!! They send a murderer to work with children? She wouldn't get within a mile of my daycare center. What happened to background checks? These idiot judges that sentence criminals to work with the public make me sick. What makes them think we want to have these creeps foisted upon us? It's not our job to babysit the criminal element who should be in prison for their crimes. I would be happy to see this business of "community service" done away with. If they don't want to put the guilty person in jail, then fine the crap out of them, or make them pick up trash along the highway, but don't make private citizens have to accomodate them when they're trying to run a business. This girl belongs in jail for killing an innocent baby.

49 posted on 02/26/2008 7:15:31 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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She does not speak English. Killing a child is a “crime of moral turpitude.” Under the Immigration Code, illegals AND legal permanent residents are subject to immediate deportation if convicted of such a crime. If, as is likely, this woman is not a citizen, has this despicable judge notified the ICE? If not, this is yet another dereliction of duty on his part. Although not as great a dereliction of course, a turning this monster loose among innocent children at a day care center.


50 posted on 02/26/2008 7:17:48 PM PST by Godwin1 (merican restaurant.)
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