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MYSTERY: Seattle billboard: "When you vote, remember 9/11"
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 2/27/2008 | Moinica Guzman

Posted on 02/27/2008 8:35:29 AM PST by XR7

Seattle drivers, what do you make of this?

The billboard, which faces south from the corner of Western Avenue and Denny Way, states that it was funded by something called "Concerned Citizens for a Better America."

You won't find the group's name on Google, except in a wayward comment thread or two. The group is not registered as a Political Action Committee or with the Washington Secretary of State's corporation division. Nor does it have to be -- based on this billboard, anyway -- because its message neither mentions a candidate by name nor appears too close to election time.

Democratic consultant Frank Greer said he "had no idea" who "Concerned Citizens For A Better America" might be, but he's surprised any group would use a billboard to spread a political message.

"Candidates do not use billboards and they're rarely used in politics," Greer said. "I do not know of a campaign, in my professional experience, where billboards have been effective."

The exception, he said, is when a billboard is used to create buzz that leads to another campaign. Still, the Western and Denny billboard left him puzzled.

"It seems to be somebody who wants to begin a conversation or a dynamic or ask questions about America's response to 9/11," he said. "The thing about it is, we know the one candidate that relied on 9/11 -- Rudy Giuliani -- never made it past the first primary...

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 911; ads; advertising; billboard; election2008; firstamendment; freespeech; mccain; mccainfeingold; pac; vote; wtc
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The group is not registered as a Political Action Committee

Horrors!

Have you seen any of these in your town?

1 posted on 02/27/2008 8:35:32 AM PST by XR7
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To: XR7
It should also encourage people to vote for politicians who want to kill Islamofacists wherever their rat holes are found. -Wb
2 posted on 02/27/2008 8:40:35 AM PST by Wagonboy (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!)
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To: XR7

Very good point to remember.


3 posted on 02/27/2008 8:40:43 AM PST by ANGGAPO ( is for the oil.)
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To: XR7

It could be just a bunch of concerned citizens who want a better America. I know I’m going out on a limb here, but...


4 posted on 02/27/2008 8:42:12 AM PST by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 7, 2008.)
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To: XR7
Have you seen any of these in your town?

No, but I want to.

5 posted on 02/27/2008 8:42:19 AM PST by null and void (The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
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To: XR7

Pro- or anti- WOT?


6 posted on 02/27/2008 8:42:47 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: XR7
Democratic consultant Frank Greer said he "had no idea" who "Concerned Citizens For A Better America" might be, but he's surprised any group would use a billboard to spread a political message.

What an idiot.

7 posted on 02/27/2008 8:42:54 AM PST by mnehrling ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: XR7

“When you vote, remember we’ve already fought socialism for the better part of a century.”


8 posted on 02/27/2008 8:43:37 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: XR7
. . . because its message neither mentions a candidate by name nor appears too close to election time.

And Thank You, John McCain, for McCain-Feingold. Without this sterling piece of legislation, we'd be subjected to these hateful ads in October and November of election years.

9 posted on 02/27/2008 8:43:53 AM PST by Mrs_Stokke (The last time we nominated a Senator, we got a Clinton.)
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To: XR7

Sounds like a Rudy supporter who bought the billboard before Mayor Greasy dropped out of the race.


10 posted on 02/27/2008 8:45:03 AM PST by Clemenza (I live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Wrecks)
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To: XR7

“Candidates do not use billboards and they’re rarely used in politics,” Greer said. “I do not know of a campaign, in my professional experience, where billboards have been effective.”

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What an idiot. Campaign consultants are people who can’t make it in advertising.

It is nearly impossible to “measure” the effectiveness of outdoor advertising, but that doesn’t not mean it isn’t effective. Billboards deliver a concise message a broad range of people...if a person can read and rides in a car, good billboards work.

If I wanted to make a brief political statement, billboards would be very effective.


11 posted on 02/27/2008 8:45:19 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: All
Outrageous. They ought to round up whoever is responsible and imprison them for political expression (/s).

On the serious side if this were closer to the election could this violate McCain-Feingold? I know it doesn't endorse a specific candidate but...?

12 posted on 02/27/2008 8:45:51 AM PST by Proud_texan (Stop global whining)
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To: XR7

The statements by that DNC mouth breeder are sure telling.


13 posted on 02/27/2008 8:46:58 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Mrs_Stokke
And Thank You, John McCain, for McCain-Feingold. Without this sterling piece of legislation, we'd be subjected to these hateful ads in October and November of election years.

Just wait until close to the election: Every time a newscaster mentions McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance "Reform", the opponent will scream for equal time!

14 posted on 02/27/2008 8:48:03 AM PST by null and void (The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
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To: XR7

"When you vote, remember your wallet"


15 posted on 02/27/2008 8:48:06 AM PST by avacado
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To: gridlock
"It could be just a bunch of concerned citizens who want a better America. I know I’m going out on a limb here, but..."

What would ever give you that idea?
16 posted on 02/27/2008 8:48:25 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: XR7

Prediction: 2 days until it is defaced by graffitti.


17 posted on 02/27/2008 8:48:55 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (New York Times Endorsed!!!)
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To: XR7

OBTW - The billboard will be ILLEGAL in September, according to the

MCCAIN / FEINGOLD

abrogation of the First Amendment.


18 posted on 02/27/2008 8:49:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (New York Times Endorsed!!!)
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To: XR7

Who would use a billboard to spread their message???

COCA-COLA comes to mind and it’s worked out pretty good for them. McDonald’s too... Jeez, I guess using Billboards isn’t all that bad of an idea afterall. LOL


19 posted on 02/27/2008 8:50:35 AM PST by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: Uncle Miltie

(Well, if it also said “Vote McCain” it sure would be)


20 posted on 02/27/2008 8:50:39 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (New York Times Endorsed!!!)
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To: avacado
"When you vote, remember your wallet"

The welfare recipients do...

21 posted on 02/27/2008 8:52:12 AM PST by null and void (The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
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To: XR7

When you vote, remember 9/11 and don’t vote for Obama!


22 posted on 02/27/2008 8:52:16 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: XR7

I live in Seattle, but this is not on my commute. What really makes me scratch my head is that our caucus’s were weeks ago, and our primary was a week ago. Very wierd.

Also, a billboard like this in Seattle is a waste of breath ... they vote for Baghdad Jim as thier congressman for cryin out loud. This billboard in Bellevue ... heck, anywhere outside Seattle city limits, would have been a lot more effective.


23 posted on 02/27/2008 8:53:26 AM PST by RainMan
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To: XR7

24 posted on 02/27/2008 8:54:11 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: XR7
The Post-Inteligence[sic]r asks a leftist consultant (Greer) for an opinion. Greer (like any leftist) says everything except for the obvious truth...

"It seems to be somebody who wants to begin a conversation or a dynamic or ask questions about America's response to 9/11," he said. "The thing about it is, we know the one candidate that relied on 9/11 -- Rudy Giuliani -- never made it past the first primary.

The Dems/Marxists are trying to "wish away" the war on terror. To them, their hysterical quest for a global Utopian collective means more than defending our freedoms and way of life.

25 posted on 02/27/2008 8:56:29 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: XR7
When you vote, remember your photo ID
26 posted on 02/27/2008 8:56:44 AM PST by mnehrling ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: XR7

My guess is that the group is related to Common Sense Issues, the PAC that has been manipulating the conservative vote around the country, without supporting any one candidate, but is related to McCain, since it is funded by his friend, Carl Lindner.


27 posted on 02/27/2008 8:57:53 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Clemenza
"Sounds like a Rudy supporter who bought the billboard before Mayor Greasy dropped out of the race."

Or an anti-Obama group.

28 posted on 02/27/2008 8:58:08 AM PST by Hatteras
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I think its genius. Especially with the other thread about Obama planning to disarm America, we need to remember 9/11 more than ever...


29 posted on 02/27/2008 8:59:03 AM PST by The Axis Effect (If people were held accountable we would all be screwed...)
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To: XR7

Maybe CLEAR CHANNEL did the billboard....???


30 posted on 02/27/2008 9:01:24 AM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: XR7
It will have no effect especially in Seattle. The entire west coast forgot about 911 and NEVER FORGET on 912.

The rest of the nation took about a year.

NEVER FORGET! and NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME! became, WHATEVER HAPPENED WE DESERVED IT and all things BAD are BUSH's FAULT!!

31 posted on 02/27/2008 9:03:58 AM PST by PISANO
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To: XR7

From the article:

“Whoever did it chose the location carefully — ‘cause it was next to you,” he said, referring to the P-I.”

Now that’s just funny!


32 posted on 02/27/2008 9:04:23 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: XR7

“Democratic consultant Frank Greer said he “had no idea” who “Concerned Citizens For A Better America” might be,”

Why am I not surprised that a Dem would not be able to identify with folks that want a better America instead of the socialist hellhole that the Dems pine for?

In addition, the author if this article sure seems to have her dander up!


33 posted on 02/27/2008 9:05:59 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; dixiechick2000; Salvation; AuntB

Sounds like the mystery billboard that showed up north of Medford on I 5 a few years ago.


34 posted on 02/27/2008 9:07:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Proud_texan

"WHAT'S THIS????!!! I DON'T RECALL GIVING MY PERMISSION FOR THIS!!!! WELL, DID I ????!!! DID I????!!!"

35 posted on 02/27/2008 9:14:41 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: XR7

“When you vote, remember whether the muslims deserve dialogue, or a nice shiny glass surface on the entire Arabian peninsula.”


36 posted on 02/27/2008 9:15:40 AM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Haha, thanks, my laugh of the day.


37 posted on 02/27/2008 9:20:51 AM PST by Proud_texan (Stop global whining)
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To: mnehrling
When you vote, remember your photo ID When you vote, remember to ask: Dónde está el puesto electoral?
38 posted on 02/27/2008 9:25:39 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Grampa Dave

As us insiders know, billboards can be very effective..


39 posted on 02/27/2008 9:25:39 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: avacado; XR7

Being as this is Seattle, perhaps the sign should read:

“WHEN YOU VOTE, REMEMBER NOT TO USE THE SAME NAME TWICE”


40 posted on 02/27/2008 9:27:15 AM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: jerod

I like the God one’s


41 posted on 02/27/2008 9:27:21 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: XR7

Of course McCain-Feingold is prevalent in their minds.

Thank you, John McCain.


42 posted on 02/27/2008 9:30:21 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Red Badger

If you think it is hot here...(south Texas)


43 posted on 02/27/2008 9:31:40 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: weegee

And God help us, we may just fight it on our soil.


44 posted on 02/27/2008 9:31:57 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: XR7
MYSTERY: Seattle billboard: "When you vote, remember 9/11"

Yeah, like that's going to work.
I bet most of the fine citizenry of Seattle blames 9/11 on President Bush (and not the previous 'Dereliction of Duty' President). Consequently this billboard will reinforce their natural tendencies to vote left.

45 posted on 02/27/2008 9:34:44 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: wastedyears

Don’t forget McCain/Lieberman; 50 cent increase on gas to fight Goebbels Warming and force corporations to move because they can’t meet the ridiculous “Carbon Emissions” standards the new bill will enforce.

Oh, and Amnesty for 30 million new Democrats.........

Yup, McCain, America’s best choice to fight Obama......


46 posted on 02/27/2008 9:36:02 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....Viva El Presidente! "I'm not prejudice, I hate everybody the same.")
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To: Sopater
Vote early. Counting will stop when the pre-selected candidate is in the lead.
47 posted on 02/27/2008 9:36:38 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

http://soli.inav.net/~catalyst/inspire/godbill.htm


48 posted on 02/27/2008 9:55:39 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Clemenza

No, it sounds like McCain’s friend, Carl Lindner and Common Sense Issues. That’s what they do, manipulate conservative vote. They just change their name from time to time.


49 posted on 02/27/2008 10:05:45 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I was flipping channels late last nite and came across four ( very liberal) Historian professors on Charlie Rose talking about the future of America under a new presidential administration as it relates to the world.

they established that the USA at present is the dominant factor in stability and peace , especially to Europe, and that there is a strong current under way in the world money market ( EU included) to topple the US dollar with 9-11 as the tipping point.

they all seemed to think Obama would be the next president and that this would please the world initially ....but it could also trigger a furious flurry of dire "challenges" as his election would be seen by aggressive tyrants worldwide as a weakness to be taken advantage of.

These liberal proffessors also pointed out that the extreme hatred for America was entirely media driven worldwide and cited examples such as Abu Garaib and the fact that the hatred is almost entirely focused on attacking Bush , not on facts.

The professors had various opinions that all pointed in the direction of radical change coming that the election of Obama would trigger

Although 3 were thrilled at the idea of Obama as president, most agreed this change would be the downfall of the USA as economic and strategic leader, but a long (30 year) period of turmoil before China gets settled as dominant leader of the new world order.

Two predicted the decline of Western Culture (europe and usa),and cited examples such as cultural dilution by unchecked immigration, excessive debt and lack of production which according to the lessons of history "gives a feeling" that a radical shift is coming very soon.

the other two seemed to believe there would just be a reshuffle of power within US and EU, the coming depression would cause the US to be sold off piecmeal bit by bit to foreign investors and the USA would soon (within 30 years) be owned and occupied by different faces ( decline of the WASP)

50 posted on 02/27/2008 10:53:01 AM PST by KTM rider (Why cut off your nose to spite your face, when you can just hold it instead)
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