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Obama's Silence on Kaddafi
Talking Points Memo ^ | 02.27.08 | Josh Marshall

Posted on 02/27/2008 6:11:36 PM PST by george76

Can we ignore Sen. Obama's silence about Muammar Kaddafi?

We know that Louis Farrakhan has said positive things about Barack Obama. And he's not the only one. This is the same Louis Farrakhan who has travelled to Libya to meet with and say positive things about Kaddafi, who has long-standing ties to terrorism.

And that's not all. The former pastor at Obama's church, Jeremiah Wright, has not only said positive things about Farrakhan. In the 1980s, he went on a trip with Farrakhan to ... you guessed it, Libya, to meet with Kaddafi.

With all of Obama's ties to Kaddafi and all Kaddafi's ties to terrorism, not to mention a lot of Muslims and Arabs ... how much longer can Obama stay silent on his relationship to Kaddafi?

Does he support Kaddafi? ... Will he denounce Kaddafi... ?

These questions won't go away.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: africa; barack; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; daffy; gadaffi; husseinobama; kaddafi; libya; muammar; muammarkaddafi; obama; swine; terrorism

1 posted on 02/27/2008 6:11:37 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Kadaffi has pretty much turned over a new leaf and renounced terrorism.

We are in the process of restoring diplomatic relations, if we haven’t done so already.

The embargo has ended.

I’m not sure why we’d want to beat him over the head at the moment.


2 posted on 02/27/2008 6:14:46 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; george76
Kadaffi has pretty much turned over a new leaf and renounced terrorism.

He has blood on his hands. We should have pounded his sand box until it resembled a sheet of glass.

But then... my reasons are personal.

3 posted on 02/27/2008 6:18:37 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: george76
We can't take the risk.

When in doubt,

Vote him out.

4 posted on 02/27/2008 6:20:19 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! ALLLLLWAYS!)
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To: maine-iac7; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; jazusamo; SunkenCiv; USF; forkinsocket; F15Eagle; G8 Diplomat; ...
Obama's Secretary of Defense Pick?

Gary Busey

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5 posted on 02/27/2008 6:22:47 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: USF

We put enough pressure on him that he totally renounced his WMD program and turned it over to us.

I guess short of him killing himself, he’s done everything we wanted.


6 posted on 02/27/2008 6:23:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
We put enough pressure on him that he totally renounced his WMD program and turned it over to us.

Pressure, being the operative word there... and watching our "Cowboy" roll out troops right into Saddams places left little doubt of what would happen to him if he did not comply. Not out of his heart, but because of this creatures own survival instinct for his life, unlike the life he tore away from so many others.

I guess short of him killing himself, he’s done everything we wanted.

He has not accepted personal blame, nor has he been personally held accountable for his actions or faced justice.

One day, hopefully he will. Satan will have a special place in hell for him, and yes, I really do wish that meeting will happen soon.

7 posted on 02/27/2008 6:33:31 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: Dog Gone

Kadaffi hasn’t renounced anything. He got caught with a chinese nuke weapons kit by way of nk and pakistan and had to give up the goods so he didn’t end up like saddam. He still mouths off and will be back to his old ways as soon as hussein obama is President (God forbid).


8 posted on 02/27/2008 6:36:56 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: USF

I’m no fan of him, and certainly am not trying to defend him here, but I think trying to make a news story out of Obama not blasting him is ridiculous.


9 posted on 02/27/2008 6:42:16 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: george76

It’s Tim Russert’s fault!


10 posted on 02/27/2008 6:43:33 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Dog Gone

K, no prob... I hear where you’re coming from and don’t really want to get into this anymore.

Take care DG


11 posted on 02/27/2008 6:52:25 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: george76

I noticed the TUCC.org site (Obama’s church — run by Rev. Jeremiah Wright) has been sanitized.

You can’t find a link or even reference to the Trumpet magazine — the one that honored Farrakhan with a lifetime achievement award, and an interview with special emphasis on black empowerment.

The Rev. Wright is retiring in early March. Hmmmm....

The rhetoric there has been toned down too. Gee, I wonder why....


12 posted on 02/27/2008 7:16:55 PM PST by zipper ( Suicide voting is the quickest way to send the whole country to Hell.)
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To: All
Because of the Minister’s influence in the African American community, Trumpet Newsmagazine honors him this winter at its Sounds of the Shore gala with an Empowerment Award. It seemed a fitting tribute for a storied life well lived. And as our brief interview drew to a close and he thanked me for taking the time to talk to him, I could not help but think, the Minister, the man with whom I had been so casually speaking, truly epitomized greatness.

http://www.trumpetmag.com/pdf/nov_dec_feature.pdf

13 posted on 02/27/2008 7:20:51 PM PST by zipper ( Suicide voting is the quickest way to send the whole country to Hell.)
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To: zipper; potlatch

They can not handle the truth.

Obama’s minister likely is on a long cruise ?

They are watching us ...with Google’s help ?


14 posted on 02/27/2008 7:26:57 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Obama is so calm and ‘cool’ that he is frightening, almost like a robot.

“Barack Obama has been very careful not to position himself as Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton as a promoter of “The Black Cause.” He has been groomed, wisely so, to be seen more as a unifier, rather than one who speaks only for the hurt of Black people.”

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/528635/barack_obamas_church_honors_nation.html?page=1


15 posted on 02/27/2008 7:45:15 PM PST by potlatch
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To: george76
Barack Obama is a Muslim. He's Raila Odinga's cousin and friend. His ancestors were Arab Slave Traders. His entire life is a fraud because he's told everyone he's "black" so that they make the RACIST conclusion that he's African.

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm

Barak Obama is 50% Caucasian, 43.75% Arab, and only 6.25% Negro-African. He doesn't have the lawful 12.5% Negro-African to legally claim to be African-American. Barak Obama is ARAB-AMERICAN.

http://www.masnet.org/prof_personality.asp?id=1508 http://www.bufford.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=737 http://www.themidnightsun.org/?p=1613 http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080115/issues.html?.v=1 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/08/wkenya308.xml http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_03_12/feature.html http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm http://barackobamacandidate.org/ http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/3/28/142319.shtml

From an email from someone who returned to the States on Feb 11 this year: “We were asked everywhere about the Presidential race in America. There was great interest. The Jews came up to us and asked us many questions. They said they do not want the Clintons again. They warned us that Obama is a Muslim, not a Christian. In Egypt, the Arabs said the same thing to us; they said Obama is Muslim and they are amazed that Americans would consider electing a Muslim President of America!!”

16 posted on 02/27/2008 7:55:01 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: Dog Gone

Kadaffi has pretty much turned over a new leaf and renounced terrorism.

Which has been mostly due to the actions of Reagan and GWB. Reagan knocked on his door, and GWB reminded him when Saddam was dragged out of his “spider hole”. Kadaffi has not become one of the good guys, but he knows when it is in his best interest to keep a low profile and not make waves.


17 posted on 02/27/2008 8:01:38 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: Fred Hayek

“So the mad dog of the middle east” has turned over a new leaf.


18 posted on 02/27/2008 8:17:25 PM PST by shineon
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To: shineon

Kaddafi’s keeping a low profile to preserve his own hide.


19 posted on 02/27/2008 8:21:01 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: Fred Hayek; potlatch; LucyT

Reagan scared the snot out of him, then W caught Saddam :

Kaddafi’s keeping a low profile to preserve his own hide.


20 posted on 02/27/2008 9:24:59 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Fred Hayek; shineon; george76; Fred Nerks; Dog Gone
Gadaffi has learned a few tricks from Arafat, getting into the plausible deniability game (while he runs around N Africa spreading his pan-Afrcian unity BS with his kook brigade of female bodyguards who look like they are straight out of an Austin Powers movie).

For eg:

A group led by a son of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi is negotiating with an Al Qaeda-affiliated Islamist rebel group about the release from prison of some of its members, the group said. The Gaddafi International Foundation, chaired by Saif Al Islam, said that as a result of the talks Libyan authorities were preparing to free one third of the members of Fighting Islamic Group in Libya (FIGL) currently serving time in jail.'

Saif Al Islam (al Gadaffi), is the son who Gadaffi is thought to be grooming to take over his deranged regime.

Ayman al-Zawahri and Abu Laith (al-Libi) of the FIGL:

"We proclaim our alliance with the Al-Qaeda network... to become the faithful soldiers of Osama Bin Laden,"

It seems the US may not be the only ones Gadaffi will do deals with to save his own skin.

Trust this mad dog at your own peril.

21 posted on 02/28/2008 4:42:42 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: george76
This is BS - - “With all of Obama’s ties to Kaddafi and all Kaddafi’s ties to terrorism” - - the writer does document a single tie Obama has with Khaddafi.

That Wright has a tie, or Farrakhan has a tie - - that’s one thing, but to extend those ties to Obama is stupid.

There is sufficient stuff to prejudice Obama with. These kinds of stories allow Obama and his people to dismiss the real stuff as “they’re all smears.”

It’s what happened with the madrassa story and the swearing in with a Quran story.

22 posted on 02/28/2008 7:28:23 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

I’ve seen the Kenneth Lamb story — but don’t you think Obama’s father looks very African — and by that I mean sub-Saharan African?

See the pic below Obama’s:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=431908&in_page_id=1770


23 posted on 02/28/2008 7:47:12 AM PST by zipper ( Suicide voting is the quickest way to send the whole country to Hell.)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Q may be dead before the next president leaves office. The recent rapprochement of Libya with the civilized world (plus Q’s frequent disgust with the Arab League, execution of Moslem religious leaders, Libya’s isolation from its immediate neighbors) isn’t a bad thing. This one seems a bit zany to me. Thanks george76.


24 posted on 02/28/2008 9:55:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: potlatch

Apparently, he is ok with a tele-prompter but not so good without it.

Interesting to see ?


25 posted on 02/28/2008 9:59:52 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Fred Nerks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1977456/posts?page=16#16


26 posted on 02/28/2008 10:01:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: Beckwith

Did you see this number 16 ?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1977456/posts?page=16#16


27 posted on 02/28/2008 10:02:01 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Reagan killed one of Khaddafi’s children trying to get at him. THAT alone sent the right message.


28 posted on 02/28/2008 10:06:06 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: george76

I’ve written this guy twice.

I asked him what “Kenyan documents” he has or has seen that indicate the Obama’s are Arabs.

A also asked him where he gets the 6.5%.

Was Akuma, Barak SR.’s mother, an Arab - - I don’t think so - - I would guess she’s African-Muslim being married to Grampa Husein.

And you have to go back one more generation to get to 6.5% and nobody that I’ve found has gone that far back.

His numbers just don’t add up.

I won’t put his stuff on my site - - all this guy is doing is making claims - - he’s not providing documentation.


29 posted on 02/28/2008 10:13:28 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Beckwith

Thanks.

You are correct; hopefully he responds to you.


30 posted on 02/28/2008 10:31:33 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Dog Gone; george76
"Kadaffi has pretty much turned over a new leaf and renounced terrorism"

That's what he wanted everyone to think when he was in the crosshairs in 2003 and had been caught obtaining Pak and NK nuke program materials..... he did not want to be taken out like Saddam. BUT there was just a story from Iraq recently about jihad terrorists coming from Libya to Iraq, at least some of them apparently sponsored by one of Gaddafi's sons (don't know how solid the intel is, but that's been in the news in the past couple of weeks). I would not assume Libya is totally out of the terrorism game or the WMD quest without more time and more evidence.

If there does turn out to be a Libyan connection to jihad terrorists in Iraq then it will be time to fry Gaddafir once and for all. He's so much easier to get at than Iran......
31 posted on 02/28/2008 11:03:36 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: we'll send Pelosi and Brezinski to Damascus, that's our foreign policy!!)
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To: Dog Gone

Because there are recent stories of his son funding terrorists in Iraq. But heh, he’s turned a new leaf.


32 posted on 02/28/2008 2:10:39 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: SFC Chromey

I judge Ronald Reagan by his words and deeds, and not those of his son’s.

By no stretch am I comparing Kaddafi to Reagan, but he’s the one running the show, not his son.

If Libya hasn’t changed its ways, then I have no objection to turning it into a parking lot. But I see what has happened there in recent years as a triumph for Bush diplomacy and it will take real evidence to show that this is not the case.


33 posted on 02/28/2008 2:24:35 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: george76
Josh Micah Marshall is such a moron. He meant this entire post as satire--and NO ONE got it! Hilarious. His "satire" may now actually hurt his candidate as thousands of people learn the fact that the Rev. Wright--who married and mentored Obama and baptized his children--visited and praised Quadafi in Libya.

Hilarious!!!

34 posted on 02/28/2008 2:37:08 PM PST by montag813
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To: Eagles6

He certainly did. Khaddafi turned over his whole WMD program to Washington. Crated it up and sent it to us. As it turned oyt his wife pressured him to do it after Uday and Qusay (sp?) were killed. Mrs. K had no desire to see her son’s end up that way.


35 posted on 02/28/2008 3:57:29 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: Dog Gone

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree:
http://patdollard.com/2008/01/was-gadhafis-son-behind-todays-killing-of-us-troops/


36 posted on 03/04/2008 9:18:00 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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