Posted on 02/27/2008 9:27:03 PM PST by Sir Gawain
Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:19:32 pm PST
Has anyone ever really shown that the allegations made by the Swift Boat Veterans against John F. Kerry were false? If someone has refuted the charges conclusively, I’ve never seen it—which makes John McCain’s continuing antipathy toward the Swiftboaters inexplicable: McCain Scrambles to Control Backers.
Speaking to reporters aboard his campaign tour bus late Tuesday, McCain acknowledged that conservative independent groups pursuing a similar line to Cunningham’s could be impossible to control.
“I think you have to worry about that, particularly the 527s,” McCain said, referring to the independent advocacy groups that are not subject to contributor limits.
“We’re aware of many of the things that 527s have done ... where unlimited amounts of money can pour into negative campaigns such as we saw against John Kerry and his combat record, as we saw against (former Georgia Sen.) Max Cleland ... they’re really very not accountable to anyone. At least I have to say ‘I’m John McCain and I approve this message.’”
And no, I’m not saying ‘down with McCain’ here. But in this case, I think he’s scoring some cheap political points at the expense of people who don’t deserve the bad rap.
Oops I meant Fox via LGF for source.
Alright, Captain McCain. Don’t expend all the political capital the Times bestowed on you just last week.
I wouldn’t read too much into a man simply wanting to run a clean campaign.
Hypersensitivity to perceived “insults” is the path to liberalism.
There is an email to Jon Christian Ryter on his website from a man who was in the Swift Boats in Vietnam, and served with John Kerry. He backs up the SwiftBoatVeterans against John Kerry. Go to: http://www.jonchristianryter.com
You have to remember that McCain is a friend of John Kerry.
which makes John McCains continuing antipathy toward the Swiftboaters inexplicable:
Why is McCain sliming veterans who came forward and told the truth about a man who told harmful lies about then before congress then? That is not now and has never been running a clean campaign.
How’s the McCain warchest growing? Getting losts of donations from Joe Sixpack?
Typical McCain.
I think Mr. McCain would get a lot more votes if he kept his mouth shut and stayed home and played scrabble and drank green tea for the rest of this campaign season.
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NO.
McCain has explained his antipathy to the Swiftees on grounds that he believes it wrong to attack someone's combat record. He allows that Kerry's anti-war activities were fair game.
I don't agree with him at all. If someone has falsified his combat record, I see no obligation to remain silent.
Thanks to McCain, we have 527’s. Now they’re evil?
This guy is dumber than I thought.
He would rather stand with his lying traitorous friend Kerry, than with honorable fellow Vietnam War veterans who called Kerry to accountability.
No surprise—he and Kerry turned their back on the left behind Vietnam POW/MIAs in 1993 and dissed their families.
Yo! Maverick McCain! The NY Times says you might not be able to be President because of your birthplace. Quit now!(/lib BS)
Okay, as a Viet Nam vet I'll say it, "down with McCain."
For crying out loud, the moron helps draft creates 527's with the idiodic McCain-Feingold bill and then complains.
I was, and continue to be, proud to stand with the Swift Boat Veterans, and will always believe that we made the difference in keeping John Kerry out of the White House.
I'm seriously beginning to wonder if we need to reconvene the Swifties to keep McCain out as well.
McCain has his own ghosts from Vietnam and the SBV title, “Unfit for Command” must have a scary resonance for him.
Never Forget.
McCains’s the best we got. And that ain’t sayin’ much.
“Alright, Captain McCain. Dont expend all the political capital the Times bestowed on you just last week.”
lol, that’s just what McCain is doing.
McCain was dogged for years by charlatans like Ted Sampley. I don’t think he sees the difference between Sampley and the Swift Boat Veterans. The Swifties were men of honor. Samplay was not.
Sorry AuH2O, but it's gone. McCain tried to be Kerry's running mate, and now he wants to be Obama's running mate.
He sure as hell doesn't want to be the REPUBLICAN nominee.
Screw him. Buy Gold and pray the next 4 years goes by fast.
“You have to remember that McCain is a friend of John Kerry.”
McCain is a friend of all the Dems. Bet he doesn’t use foul language on Dems, as he has with Republicans.
He tried to be his running mate, too.
Don't like the Frankenstein monster YOU created eh?
He really does not wish to be seen in public with us.
Yea McLame-Brain, just keep right on talking, you just might lose this election yet, better to get it all out in the open now so we know exactly what's to be expected if you're lucky enough to get enough fools to vote for you.


Nam Vet
When the swift boats first started attacking Kerry, I remembered he made some references to Ted Sampley.
Funny, he doesn’t criticize George Soros. Oh yeah, Soros has contributed heavily to his foundation.
Time to break out this tagline again I see...
This just shows how dishonest McVAin is.
The question for me is is McCain an idiot, an a-hole or both?
Next thing you know McC{unprintable} will be be saying that HillaryRotten would make a fine POTUS. Oh crap, never mind...
There are a lot of Vietnam Veterans who don’t hold John McCain in very high esteem, especially Navy pilots who served in the same time period as McCain. McCain doesn’t want to be swiftboated.
You may be correct. The problem is that McCain consistently attacks/belittles/criticizes the right (pun intended) people and sides with the wrong people. I believe it is a basic character flaw in the man.
Has McCain EVER publicly criticized Soros? Ted Kennedy?
You're right Eva. While I was not a Navy pilot, I was a radioman in the Navy at the same time as McCain. In fact, I served aboard the same aircraft carrier he flew from when he crashed his plane in Viet Nam, the USS Oriskay (CVA 34).
I respect his POW status, along with the thousands of others who were held against their will. It is what he has done since he was a POW that troubles me and many other Viet Nam vets.
I’ll stand with the Swiftvets any day. McCain can KMA...
The Swift Boat Vets were accountable to us, the citizens of the United States, unlike politicians who are accountable to Soros.
The vets I saw and heard at the "Kerry Lied" rally in D.C. in 2004 were telling the truth. I'd vote for John O'Neill over John McCain any day.
Just heard McCain on MS-NBC’s documentary talk about how at Annapolis, his intention was to see what he could get away with, while still remaining in the school.
Seems to be a lifelong theme.
I met a man at our caucus who was a Navy pilot at that time, who hated McCain so much that he couldn’t even say his name. One of my neighbors was in McCain’s class at Annapolis. The story about bumping a pilot isn’t exactly true. They asked for volunteers to train on a different aircraft. My neighbor raised his hand because he was happy to fly something else.
It was Republican McCain who called Sampley one of the most despicable people I have ever had the misfortune to encounter and said Sampley has a nose for publicity and knack for making money from invented controversies
*** I think that this is the key to McCain’s denunciation of The Swiftboaters. He had been dogged by Samplely for years with this type of vacuous crap. Kerry had been Sampley’s second target. Samply had tried to align himself with the Swiftboaters and implied that he had a leadership role there. McCain looked at the Swifties and saw Sampley or similar.
He couldn’t have been more wrong.
110 posted on 02/22/2008 9:31:16 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
Did you know that not a single member of McCain’s flight class made it out of Vietnam, except McCain? I have to wonder if the information that McCain gave the enemy in exchange for medical treatment, had anything to do with that. It could have been, as my neighbor suggested, just a bad plane.
Staying home in November looks better all the time.
WTF? Why is McCain wasting everybody’s time defending has been ‘Rat candidates from done and over with elections? It sounds like he believes he was competing for the Republican nomination for PC Cop, not presidential candidate.

Seems that I'm going to have to polish my Paint Shop skills again. I would give my worldly posessions to the Swift Boat Veterans and POW's for truth before I gave McCain a nickel.
My uncle was in the same class at Annapolis. I don’t think he was friends with him but knew of him. He didn’t say anything good or bad re: McCain.
Doesn’t McCain comprehend that he’s s#!++!ng in his own bed by personally calling out Republican supporters? If he must do so, he should appoint an underling to do so and not make the news every time by opening his own stupid yap about it.
Funny how he slams the Swift Boat Vets but not the Congressional Medal of Honor winners who stood with them.
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