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The Elephant in the Room: Obama: A harsh ideologue hidden by a feel-good image
Philadephia Inquirer ^ | 02/28/2008 | Rick Santorum

Posted on 02/28/2008 7:19:12 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

---snip--- The other candidate, by contrast, is one of the Senate's fiercest partisans. This senator reflexively sides with the party's extreme wing. There's no record of working with the other side of the aisle. None ---snip--- Who would oppose a bill that said you couldn't kill a baby who was born? Not Kennedy, Boxer or Hillary Rodham Clinton. Not even the hard-core National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL). Obama, however, is another story. ---snip-- according to Obama, "they," babies who survive abortions or any other preterm newborns, should be permitted to be killed because giving legal protection to preterm newborns would have the effect of banning all abortions.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; husseinobama; obama; pa2008; santorum

1 posted on 02/28/2008 7:19:15 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen
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Trust me, he ain't THE ONE.
2 posted on 02/28/2008 7:21:54 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Have you heard Cardinal George of Chicago ever comment on Barrack’s abortion stance?


3 posted on 02/28/2008 7:33:54 PM PST by ethics
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To: Kid Shelleen
There's no record of working with the other side of the aisle

And McCnutts has no record of working with his own side of the aisle.

Regards

4 posted on 02/28/2008 7:34:55 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Repeat this loud and often. This man wants to KILL live babies OUTSIDE the womb. It is sicker than sick.


5 posted on 02/28/2008 7:37:39 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Lest anyone forgot, WE ARE AT WAR!!!!! NOW IS NOT THE TIME IN HISTORY TO TEACH THE PARTY A LESSON!!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Obama Once Visited '60s Radicals (Weather Underground Terrorists)


6 posted on 02/28/2008 7:40:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: newheart

He keeps writing checks with his mouth that the Democrats can’t cash.


7 posted on 02/28/2008 7:40:18 PM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Will Santorum have to apologize for labelling Obama an ideologue? Does the fact that elephant was used in the headline indicate any subtle hostility that Republicans must apologize for?


8 posted on 02/28/2008 7:40:46 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: Kid Shelleen

Anyone who has no regaurd for infant’s “right to life,” will have the same disregard for anyone else’s “right to life.”


9 posted on 02/28/2008 7:41:31 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: newheart

Are you saying you would choose the Blue Pill?


10 posted on 02/28/2008 7:41:43 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Sickening - Hope Mac has balls to Hammer him on this. That would cause some reasonable woment to run away from him.

If there ever was definition of murder, this is it.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 7:43:00 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: JoanVarga
"He keeps writing checks with his mouth that the Democrats can’t cash."

But if he gets elected, we'll have to cover them.
12 posted on 02/28/2008 7:44:49 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I’ve heard him get a bit testy lately. His worshipers, er followers, ain’t going to like that version of Obama.
13 posted on 02/28/2008 7:45:17 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: The_Republican

I always thought the red vs. blue pill thing was a false choice. Either way you have to drink the Kool-Aid to wash it down.

My choice was neither. But then, I am definitely not THE ONE.


14 posted on 02/28/2008 7:47:32 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I know you posted part of this quote- but for anyone who won’t read the whole piece by Santorum- this deserves it’s own post. Obama stood on the floor of the Illinois Senate to defend this wickedness. Beyond belief. Truly.

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How could someone possibly justify such a vote? In March 2001, Obama was the sole speaker in opposition to the bill on the floor of the Illinois Senate. He said: “We’re saying they are persons entitled to the kinds of protections provided to a child, a 9-month child delivered to term. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal-protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child.” So according to Obama, “they,” babies who survive abortions or any other preterm newborns, should be permitted to be killed because giving legal protection to preterm newborns would have the effect of banning all abortions.

~snip~


15 posted on 02/28/2008 7:51:00 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: newheart

Sorry, Rick. No matter what you say, you’re not going to be on the ticket.


16 posted on 02/28/2008 7:51:13 PM PST by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: Kid Shelleen; All
Obama, the Constitution "expert," is evidently clueless about major Constitutional problems with Roe v. Wade in the first place.

This post (<-click) explains how dirty Democrat politics led to the USSC's scandalous legalization of abortion in Roe v. Wade, in my opinion. Note that the post first references two non-abortion cases to show Roe v. Wade in a different, troubling perspective.

17 posted on 02/28/2008 7:51:47 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Kid Shelleen

"My fellow Americans, judge him not by the color of his skin,
but by the content of his character!"

18 posted on 02/28/2008 7:57:20 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: newheart
Obamanation
19 posted on 02/28/2008 8:00:18 PM PST by chaos_5 (McStain and Suckabee 2008)
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To: newheart

Well, he makes it sound like he’s gonna be King of the World, but I’m pretty sure that we’re still a triune government and due process isn’t going away. Not in D.C.

He can say all the crap he wants, but like Pelosi, may not find the constituency necessary to make it happen.


20 posted on 02/28/2008 8:02:54 PM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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To: Kid Shelleen

I think he’s too vacant and dumb to really have a definable ideology. So, yeah he’s dangerous. But a loser in the end.


21 posted on 02/28/2008 8:11:05 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: JoanVarga
"He can say all the crap he wants, but like Pelosi, may not find the constituency necessary to make it happen."

We can hope, too.
22 posted on 02/28/2008 8:15:40 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Obama is a fake Christian.

You cannot simultaneously believe children are a gift from God AND believe it's acceptable to kill that gift from God.

You can't. And he doesn't.

Obama-lama-ding-dong is a huge litmus test to see just how much America is going to bend over to "diversity", "racial harmony", or whatever the hell you want to call it. The years and years of multi-culti brainwashing are delivering.

We have become neutered on the alter of racial guilt. And the Muslims know it.

23 posted on 02/28/2008 8:26:02 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: SE Mom
How could someone possibly justify such a vote? In March 2001, Obama was the sole speaker in opposition to the bill on the floor of the Illinois Senate. He said: “We’re saying they are persons entitled to the kinds of protections provided to a child, a 9-month child delivered to term. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal-protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child.” So according to Obama, “they,” babies who survive abortions or any other preterm newborns, should be permitted to be killed because giving legal protection to preterm newborns would have the effect of banning all abortions.

Pardon my language (already edited down from what I typed first), but that is friggin some sick shit. I'm pro-life - not extremist on the issue - but that there is so far beyond the realm of sanity that I cannot comprehend the mentality behind it. A CHILD BORN ALIVE CAN BE DIVORCED ENTIRELY OF THE "MOTHER", there can be no coherent argument leveled even in the name of "choice". As repulsive as the present justifications enshrining abortion as a "right" are, if they are endorsed, the extension of medical/parental sovereignty over the very life of the born child does not even make sense. This is almost to treat abortion as a sacrament, as some religious ritual which all have the "right" to partake in. There is no possible medical issue that they can pretend this is about. Another circle down the toilet bowl. Sickening.

24 posted on 02/28/2008 8:34:49 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: SE Mom

So, what’s his holeiness plan to do with all the injured vets coming home then? They’re not the unborn, but they are cast down, and some, discouraged about what’s happened to them. Do they get sent down river with the rest of us....

Then again, we can beat the drum for New Orleans and claim our millions $$.

I for one am seething about the education sessions for those of us who would need re-education about helping out in the community for 1 month/year. Who has time with working over 40 hours, family, chores, house, etc.? He wants one month of community service from us, too, along with the .7% for the UN, $.30/gallon gas tax for whoknowswhat and Godonlyknowswhat for groceries, prescriptions, clothing, utilities, etc. You know. Luxuries.

/rant


25 posted on 02/28/2008 8:35:37 PM PST by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The Elephant in the Room: Obama

- hey don’t talk about his ears. He doesn’t like it when you talk about his ears.

Add that to the list of things we aren’t supposed to talk about.


26 posted on 02/28/2008 8:35:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
Add that to the list of things we aren’t supposed to talk about.

Like his middle name, HUSSEIN?

27 posted on 02/28/2008 8:38:27 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: samadams2000
" I think he’s too vacant and dumb..."

Obama is neither vacant nor dumb. He is very, very shrewd. He is playing the race issue brilliantly. One thing he clearly understands well is race in America (and even better, race in the democratic party).

In addition, he was a bit awkward in public initially, and he has proved himself to be a very fast learner at how to present himself on the stump.

He has probably knocked off Bill and Hill, and that is a huge victory for a relative neophyte. The two of them don't really know what hit them. Obama has them boxed in every which way; whatever they do to try to counter him rebounds to Hillary's disadvantage.

No, Obama is not dumb; he is brilliant, charming, possibly unscrupulous, and very dangerous.

He is possibly not unbeatable, but McCain ahd his advisors will have their work cut out for them in the general election. I hope they appreciate what they are up against (and I bet they do). Can he box McCain in the same way he has Hillary? With the steady help of the press, possibly he can. I hope not.

28 posted on 02/28/2008 9:24:20 PM PST by Irene Adler (')
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To: Anti-Hillary
Repeat this loud and often. This man wants to KILL live babies OUTSIDE the womb. It is sicker than sick.

It is sick and disturbing. It's seems almost Islamic in its harshness.

29 posted on 02/28/2008 11:29:50 PM PST by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: SE Mom

bump


30 posted on 02/28/2008 11:53:33 PM PST by vrwc54
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To: M203M4

Agree. Look at the Lacy Peterson murder case. Scott Peterson was charged with two murders, because he also killed his unborn, but near full-term son, Conor.


31 posted on 02/28/2008 11:58:44 PM PST by vrwc54
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To: Irene Adler
The Obama campaign is Machiavellian

I'm sure that the RNC had this figured out way before I did.

32 posted on 02/29/2008 12:06:04 AM PST by vrwc54
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To: Irene Adler
“No, Obama is not dumb; he is brilliant, charming, possibly unscrupulous, and very dangerous”

One thing he’s not is original, now that he’s getting questioned on substance, ( rather than feel good emotion ), all that’s coming out of his mouth is the standard 1970’s era left wing babble. “Class Warfare, go after the have's , Government will solve all your problems....yadda, yadda, yadda”. He is very beatable, and knocking off the Clintons was no great task, even the Dem’s are tired of their same ole, same ole.

My guess, Obama v McCain in November.....won’t even be close

33 posted on 02/29/2008 12:10:08 AM PST by swimdad387
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To: Lizavetta
Obama is a fake Christian

He is a "committed” Christian. The MSM tells me so. /s
34 posted on 02/29/2008 3:00:13 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (All things shall be well; You shall see for yourself that all manner of things shall be well)
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To: combat_boots

“...I for one am seething about the education sessions for those of us who would need re-education about helping out in the community for 1 month/year.... He wants one month of community service from us...”

Are you speaking of the payback for college tuition here- or is this a different socialist plan I’ve not heard about yet?


35 posted on 02/29/2008 5:21:16 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Originally, the idea was from azconservative.com. It is only somewhat satirical.....

http://www.encore.org/news/top-stories/obama-expand-senior-volu

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/appealing_to_youth_obama_issue_1.html

It’s not just for young people, and it’s not just for the retired.


36 posted on 02/29/2008 10:03:55 AM PST by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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