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Cops: Georgia Man Kills Motorcyclist Who Was Following Teen Daughters
FOXNews.com ^ | Thursday, February 28, 2008 | FoxNews

Posted on 02/28/2008 9:08:44 PM PST by metmom

A Georgia man was arrested for murder after he allegedly shot and killed a motorcyclist who he said was following his teenage daughters home from a Target store, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

Richard Harold Gear's two daughters, ages 17 and 19, called their 45-year-old father from their cell phones to tell him they were being followed, the paper reported.

When they got home their father was at the end of their driveway with a pistol, police told the newspaper.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: banglist; georgia; motorcycles; murder; roadrage
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1 posted on 02/28/2008 9:08:46 PM PST by metmom
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To: metmom
When they got home their father was at the end of their driveway with a pistol, police told the newspaper.

When they got home their congenitally stupid father was at the end of their driveway with a pistol, police told the newspaper.
2 posted on 02/28/2008 9:11:43 PM PST by aruanan
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To: metmom

Sounds like the motorbiker had a deathwish. Well, his wishes got fulfilled.


3 posted on 02/28/2008 9:16:30 PM PST by indcons (Barack <strike>Hussein</strike> Obama is a terrorist enabler.)
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To: metmom
If you just read the excerpt it sounds like the guy could have been a stalker. But at the link we see:

The teens said they made obscene gestures at Mough after he cut them off, adding at one point he ran into their car, the newspaper reported.

Police told the newspaper there is evidence of a collision between the vehicle and the motorcycle, but they haven't been to determine who initiated it.

Sounds like all the parties involved were idiots. And one of the idiots is dead.

4 posted on 02/28/2008 9:18:27 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: metmom

Not Guilty!


5 posted on 02/28/2008 9:18:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: aruanan

He should have coaxed them into the house first. :-)


6 posted on 02/28/2008 9:21:02 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: metmom
Georgia Man Kills Motorcyclist Who Was Following Teen Daughters,

2 stupid over protected spoiled Princesses, hit a 21 year old Motorcycle Rider, with their Car, while on the cell phone chatting.
He followed them home to clarify and to get an explanation. And the princesses father more stupid as they are, killed him for no reason.
.....At least that is my explanation........
7 posted on 02/28/2008 9:23:16 PM PST by modican
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To: metmom
A lot of people out there still think Easy Rider had a happy ending.
P.J. O'Rourke

8 posted on 02/28/2008 9:24:56 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: metmom

Strangely there is no information about where this took place in Georgia.


9 posted on 02/28/2008 9:25:26 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: modican

“2 stupid over protected spoiled Princesses, hit a 21 year old Motorcycle Rider, with their Car, while on the cell phone chatting.
He followed them home to clarify and to get an explanation. And the princesses father more stupid as they are, killed him for no reason.
.....At least that is my explanation........”
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You might be right. I find it hard to believe the girls’ version that the motorcyclist ran into their car after “they made obscene gestures”. More likely the girls hit him with their car. If that happened to me, I too would follow them home so I could report them to the police.


10 posted on 02/28/2008 9:31:06 PM PST by AlternateEgo (Fred Thompson for the Supreme Court)
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To: AlternateEgo

I think there is a whole lot more to this story, including the fact that the cycle rider cruised past their home twice and was shot by the dad on the second pass. Of course I’m still puzzled as to why he had to shoot.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 9:36:35 PM PST by umgud
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To: metmom

While it is possible it seems pretty unlikely a guy on a motorcycle would be playing chicken with a car. If the girls hit the motorcycle and refused to pull over, which is hit and run, then it would make perfect sense for the guy on the motorcycle to follow them home to at least get insurance information and call the police if they refused. But the stupid sperm donor father shoots the man for driving by on a public road... Amazingly stupid.


12 posted on 02/28/2008 9:41:00 PM PST by DB
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To: umgud

Lots of folks called into Neil Boortz’ show today. (He’s out of Atlanta.) It’s not looking good for the trigger happy dad, who may have been investigated in the past for brandishing and firing “warning shots.”


13 posted on 02/28/2008 9:43:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: metmom
Well, SOP in these cases is to imprison for life without hope of parole for the father and raise the perp up on a pedestal.

There's little Justice left in America, unless you're the perp.

14 posted on 02/28/2008 9:44:48 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: AlternateEgo
If that happened to me, I too would follow them home so I could report them to the police.
Why would you have to follow them home to report them to the police?...
15 posted on 02/28/2008 9:46:07 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn

Are they not public roads?


16 posted on 02/28/2008 9:48:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: AlternateEgo
If that happened to me, I too would follow them home so I could report them to the police.

Would have been simpler to memorize a six digit license plate and report that. By following the girls it make it harder for the police to piece together an argument that he was indeed the victim. Seems to me he could have well been in the right, but let his emotions rule. For that, he's now dead.

17 posted on 02/28/2008 10:18:35 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: lewislynn
Why would you have to follow them home to report them to the police?.

Just write down the license plate. What more do you really learn by following them. You don't know they are going home, and when did get there, you still wouldn't know it was their house.

Until you saw Papa with the gun, then you'd know.

The story is a bit weak on the events at that point. That's were the rubber will meet the road during the trial. If the father was merely on his own property with the pistol, or maybe with a concealed pistol,and the guy threatened him, that's one thing, but if when the guy just showed the father shot him, that's quite another.

The story says the guy made a second pass. Now if I saw Pop in the driveway with a visible semiautomatic handgun, I don't think I'd be making another pass at the house.

18 posted on 02/28/2008 10:21:07 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Aye, thats the kicker
The story says the guy made a second pass. Now if I saw Pop in the driveway with a visible semiautomatic handgun, I don't think I'd be making another pass at the house
I vote for: the Girls cut the guy on the motorcycle off (or visa versa)- road rage ensues, girls call Dad- Dad is armed, wacky and apparently not too bad a shot to hit a moving target- guy on motorcycle is too enraged or stupid to take a hint- and makes a 2nd fatal pass of the drive way with the Dad with the gun.
19 posted on 02/28/2008 10:38:52 PM PST by zadox
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To: zadox

No good will come from this.


20 posted on 02/28/2008 10:48:45 PM PST by gigster
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To: zadox

If that’s the case though isn’t the father still guilty of first degree murder?

This story just reeks of white trash stupidity all the way around.


21 posted on 02/28/2008 10:52:24 PM PST by Nate505
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To: El Gato
He made one pass and was leaving the way he came, hence the 2d pass.
22 posted on 02/28/2008 11:27:55 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: Travis McGee
Are they not public roads?
Now that you mention it. I don't know, were they?...How is whether they're public roads or not relevant to why you would have to follow someone home before you reported them to the police?...How would you know where home is?
23 posted on 02/28/2008 11:29:06 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Travis McGee
Lots of folks called into Neil Boortz’ show today.
Did he say that if we had the Fairtax these things wouldn't happen?
24 posted on 02/28/2008 11:32:15 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn

I don’t know what really happened here, but my experience with the police dealing with minor accidents is that they don’t. It would be better for the motorcyclist to deal directly with their insurance company, and it might have been that information he was after.


25 posted on 02/28/2008 11:49:28 PM PST by FFranco
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To: indcons

indcons

I’d say so!! On the one hand, you want to say the father overreacted and should be charged and tried. On the other hand, the jerk (sic) motorcyclist had had some sort of verbal altercation with the girls at the shoppind center parking lot and had FOLLOWED THEM HOME! That’s tantamount to stalking, in fact it IS stalking! Then, instead of driving off into the res tof his life, he ended it by turning around and going back past the house in an act of defiance. Now, one can certainly argue that he “didn’t deserve to get shot and killed”. I would argue that he frightened the girls and that, now knowing where they lived, he could return anytime and kill them, rape them or who knows what.


26 posted on 02/28/2008 11:55:53 PM PST by levotb
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To: Paleo Conservative

Hi Paleo!

NOT GUILTY!!!


27 posted on 02/28/2008 11:56:20 PM PST by levotb
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

So true, Heartland! So true!


28 posted on 02/28/2008 11:58:38 PM PST by levotb
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To: FFranco

It sounds like there was a hit and run. Police don’t deal with hit and run in Georgia?


29 posted on 02/29/2008 12:09:05 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: metmom
Yesterdays version
30 posted on 02/29/2008 12:22:47 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: metmom
If in fact the cyclist was harassing the teens, they could have called the cops and driven to the local police station . . . and if in fact the cyclist saw them talking on a cell phone he had awfully good reason to suspect the existence of a welcoming committee wherever it turned out that those girls were going.

On that basis alone, you'd have to consider this cyclist for a Darwin.

OTOH it certainly sounds suspicious to claim that a cyclist intentionally hit the girls' car - which, in itself, could have been nearly as dangerous to the cyclist as following their car into the lair of said welcoming committee.


31 posted on 02/29/2008 1:49:50 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: zadox

Being very protective of my daughters and the guy circles back suggests he plans to endanger them - I intercede.


32 posted on 02/29/2008 1:50:05 AM PST by mcshot (Missing my grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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To: AlternateEgo
...More likely the girls hit him with their car.

been riding since '75, it's called "brake-checking". They jabbed the brakes, he then followed them home to get address. No way to write it down on bike. The "girls" didn't call 911, go to a police station, go to bright lit parking lot of 7-11, nope they called dad, Dad then decided not to call Police, not to take girls to safety...he just shoots.

Giving the gun grabbers yet one more reason to whine about how dangerous guns are.

Sorry, the dad was waaaay in the wrong, as were the girls, and sad to say the biker. He'd been better off shaking his head and going to police himself.

33 posted on 02/29/2008 3:57:44 AM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: levotb

IMO he wanted insurance details, to which he was entitled.

The Shooter should get life.


34 posted on 02/29/2008 4:04:53 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: aruanan

“Shot in the back”, end of story.


35 posted on 02/29/2008 4:18:43 AM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: Nate505
This story just reeks of white trash stupidity all the way around.

That's what happens when you give cell phones to the masses :)

36 posted on 02/29/2008 4:23:07 AM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: metmom

This i what happens when people don’t trust law enforcement to do their job.


37 posted on 02/29/2008 4:23:20 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: zadox

Its possible they lived on a dead end street and had to turn around to get back out passing the house twice.


38 posted on 02/29/2008 4:23:29 AM PST by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Yup. It’s too bad that a kid lost his life for a poor judgment decision.


39 posted on 02/29/2008 4:45:06 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kirkwood

I noticed that. I had friends who lived in GA for awhile while he was going to college. They took a wrong turn going somewhere and ended up on some back country road. They made a hasty retreat when they heard gunshots and realized they were getting shot at.


40 posted on 02/29/2008 4:46:57 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: umgud

He didn’t have to.


41 posted on 02/29/2008 4:47:46 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: lewislynn

WE’ll find out, in the trial. What’s for sure is the guy was killed, shot in the back.


42 posted on 02/29/2008 4:48:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: mcshot

“Circles back” was more likely the action of someone not familiar with a subdivision, running into culdesacs, and leaving by the only route he knew——his route in.


43 posted on 02/29/2008 4:49:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Given what we think we know so far, that’s a perfectly reasonable working summary for me.


44 posted on 02/29/2008 4:49:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Nate505

I think it’s murder.

There was no excuse to gun someone down who was passing by your house, unless they were shooting at you first. Then it wouldn’t be gunning someone down, it would be self-defense.

He can’t claim that here.


45 posted on 02/29/2008 4:50:21 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Travis McGee

Shot in the back is not going to make it go well for dad in the trial.


46 posted on 02/29/2008 4:52:14 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Especially if the cops were already in the past called to his house over complaints of brandishing firearms and firing his weapons.

That will destroy him at trial, if it’s admitted.


47 posted on 02/29/2008 4:53:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: metmom

ping for later


48 posted on 02/29/2008 4:57:19 AM PST by Tom_Busch ("I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good president." Actual John McCain quote.)
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To: Travis McGee

The one thing that I don’t like about our justice system is that past history can’t be taken into account. I understand the trial should just be about the particular crime and judgment of innocence and guilt based on the evidence for it, but when it comes to sentencing, if the guy has a history, he’s likely to do it again.

I hear of too many stories where the guys violent past or record are hidden from the jury and when they find out, they’re ticked because they weren’t sure and gave him the benefit of the doubt. They said later if they had known, they wouldn’t have. Then the guy goes out and kills someone later.

Likely his past will get out somehow or other. No doubt the people living in the area know of him if he’s been like that.


49 posted on 02/29/2008 5:05:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It’ll be interesting. Neil Boortz, who is a rider, was all over this story yesterday. At first he was on the father/shooter’s side, saying “he’d do ANYTHING to protect his callers. He changed his tune after many local callers reported more details. This will all come out.


50 posted on 02/29/2008 5:06:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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