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14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster
The New Media Journal ^ | 7/21/2007 | Kathy Miller

Posted on 03/01/2008 12:25:11 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature

14 years ago today, on July 20, 1993, the body of Vincent Walker Foster, Jr. was found in a Virginia park, next to a civil war cannon, with an unidentified revolver lodged in the right hand. Vincent Foster died of a small-caliber gunshot wound to his head.

Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton. On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.

The following happened within weeks of his death. Vince Foster finally files the missing Whitewater tax returns. On July 19, FBI director William Sessions is fired. Clinton personally orders him by phone to turn in his FBI property and leave headquarters.

That evening, Clinton security aide Jerry Parks' wife Jane says she overhears a heated telephone conversation with Vince Foster in which her husband says, "You can't give Hillary those files, they've got my name all over them."

On July 20, Clinton names Louis Freeh as Sessions' successor.

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That same day, the FBI raids David Hale's Little Rock office and seizes documents including those relating to Capital-Management.

Just hours after the search warrant authorizing the raid is signed by a federal magistrate in Little Rock, Vince Foster apparently drives to Ft. Marcy Park.

Foster was found dead of an apparent gunshot wound to the head in Ft. Marcy Park. His unoccupied car, a 1989 Honda, was found in the park's parking lot. Several witnesses - before and after the arrival of the park police - have claimed they saw a briefcase in Foster's car.

A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and three independent handwriting experts determined that Foster's suicide note, was a forgery.

The Raid of Vince Foster’s Office While the U.S. Park Police studied the body, Foster's office at the White House was being looted.

Secret Service agent Henry O' Neill watched as Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster's office before the Park Police showed up to seal it, yet the official identification of Vincent Foster's body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM!

Another Secret Serviceman saw Craig Livingston remove items from Vincent Foster's office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster's office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House's Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster's safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special "MIG" technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster's secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster's office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.

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Old but informative.

1 posted on 03/01/2008 12:25:13 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

There’s also Ron Brown. Remember Clinton coming back from his funeral in hysterical laughter?

Can’t think of the author, but read RON BROWN’S BODY.


2 posted on 03/01/2008 12:27:40 PM PST by kjo
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

There is not now and never has been a mystery. Hillary had him snuffed.


3 posted on 03/01/2008 12:29:07 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

July 20...isn’t that also the anniversary of the death of Mary Jo Kopechne?


4 posted on 03/01/2008 12:29:58 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Four more days of Clinton II.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

“Vincent Foster died of a small-caliber gunshot wound to his head.”

Was it not to back of the head?


5 posted on 03/01/2008 12:31:14 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: bert; kjo
FWIW

Arkancide.com

6 posted on 03/01/2008 12:31:55 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: bert; justiceseeker93

Do you have any idea why Hitlery had him sent to the hereafter? Just curious.


7 posted on 03/01/2008 12:32:03 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I believe he was called to testify at the Starr hearings, IIRC. Someone may have more info or better analysis.


8 posted on 03/01/2008 12:33:45 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: 353FMG
The "bullet" was never found. The FBI searched Ft. Marcy Park for weeks and came up empty.

It is entirely possible he was not killed by a bullet at all. (An ice pick is one theory I have heard.)
9 posted on 03/01/2008 12:34:18 PM PST by cgbg (Welcome To Rinopolos. Bring the _big_ shovels.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

It’s anybody’s guess; good chance he knew too much about something.

It is amazing the way people around the Clintons die.


10 posted on 03/01/2008 12:34:31 PM PST by kjo
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To: kjo

The Clinton library is an empty building. Will we have to wait 25 years or so to find out who Bill and Hillary really are or for that matter JFK and Martin Luther King. We make martyr’s out of these people put them on pedestals create holidays and false images of greatness but the government hides all the relevant information about who these people really are and what they are from the blinded public. come clean lets see everything!


11 posted on 03/01/2008 12:35:58 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: cgbg
He was shot in the mouth. Almost no blood at the scene, which forensic people will tell you is simply not possible for that type of death.

Also, if memory serves, Vince Foster's suit was covered in carpet fibers, from head to toe.

12 posted on 03/01/2008 12:36:54 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Arkancide has no boundrys.
It’s for the chilren, don’tcha know?
13 posted on 03/01/2008 12:36:58 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: kjo

Foster was also known to make one day trips to Switzerland.
What else could they be but trips to his client’s(the clintons) Swiss accounts.

If he was about to squeal he had to go.


14 posted on 03/01/2008 12:39:32 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

The real mystery is why two Republican special prosecutors, Robert Fiske and Ken Starr, covered up Foster’s murder.


15 posted on 03/01/2008 12:40:14 PM PST by devere
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To: TigersEye

Some Clinton info needed here...


16 posted on 03/01/2008 12:40:55 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: ronnie raygun

You are totally right. One doesn’t have to be a liberal to know that JFK and King’s deaths still smell to high heaven.

Kennedy was living a wreckless personal life, he also had a great many enemies, foreign and domestic (LBJ for one); King had turned on the war and potentially was big trouble for the government.

Just hope I live long enough to find out what happened.


17 posted on 03/01/2008 12:42:36 PM PST by kjo
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

This is an example of why we need to cheer for Obama as the nom. If the Clintons get the nom there will be no stopping them...they will win the pres in a landslide.


18 posted on 03/01/2008 12:42:54 PM PST by rrrod
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To: willgolfforfood
Any news about the serial rumors on frame and chamber....and reportedly different..?
19 posted on 03/01/2008 12:43:17 PM PST by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Old but informative.
The Vincent Foster Op-ed Contest (Redux)
ML/NJ
20 posted on 03/01/2008 12:44:38 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: spokeshave
See here Free Republic thread
21 posted on 03/01/2008 12:44:55 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I wonder if Huessin knows not to picnic in the park with Hillary.


22 posted on 03/01/2008 12:45:46 PM PST by NoLibZone (At the age of 50 - The Offshoring of US Military Projects Has Changed my perscpective.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Well there you go... the life span of a fruit span.

23 posted on 03/01/2008 12:46:38 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: willgolfforfood

The paramedics reported a neck wound.
I believe there were carpet fibers on his underwear too.
So did he roll around on a carpet, dress, drive to the park, walk the 750 ft without getting any grass or dirt on his shoes, shoot himself, hide the bullet, then lie down in a perfect position with gun in hand.

The gun was not only not his but was a drop gun made from different parts with ser. nos. filed off.

As pistols are illegal in DC, what was he doing with a pistol anyway.


24 posted on 03/01/2008 12:47:01 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: spokeshave
and here Vince Fosters Gun
25 posted on 03/01/2008 12:47:26 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: willgolfforfood

26 posted on 03/01/2008 12:48:30 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: devere
The real mystery is why two Republican special prosecutors, Robert Fiske and Ken Starr, covered up Foster’s murder.

No, especially being Republicans, they like seeing their grandchildren grow up.

27 posted on 03/01/2008 12:48:41 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
The Clintons

God's curse upon our land.

28 posted on 03/01/2008 12:49:50 PM PST by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: kjo

And wasn’t there a death of a secretary or something .. a woman, in some senator’s office ... shortly thereafter?


29 posted on 03/01/2008 12:51:46 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: smoketree
Foster was also known to make one day trips to Switzerland.

This is disinformation. Foster almost certainly never made any such trips. The "evidence" for these trips was text only American Express records which showed only airfares purchased. Anyone can type any text they want too. People who go to Europe also charge other things on their credit cards even if they return quickly.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 03/01/2008 12:51:51 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: spokeshave
THE SILVER BLACK GUN

Among the most damning pieces of evidence to emerge from the official records was the deliberate and fraudulent manufacturing of the testimony of Lisa Foster in regards to the gun found with Vincent Foster's body. Vincent Foster was found with a .38 revolver made by Colt Arms. It was built from parts taken from two other guns, and as a result had two serial numbers. The Frame number was 355055, and according to the records of the Colt Arms Company , the gun was manufactured with a standard dark blue, almost black, finish.

In the Park Police record, the gun is described as black. The accompanying photographs in the Park police report show a black gun.

The photograph leaked by the White House to ABC-TV also shows a dark gun. Compare the reflectivity of the gun to Foster's gold ring on his finger, just an inch away.

In all the statements by the Fort Marcy Park witnesses, in the Park Police reports, in the reports by experts at the FBI and ballistics lab, the gun is never described as anything but dark blue or (more often) black. The photographs recently obtained in Allan Favish's FOIA lawsuit clearly show a dark surface to the gun.

No connection exists between that gun and Vincent Foster. Foster's fingerprints were not on the gun. Neither was any of his blood . The DNA traces on the gun, while "not inconsistent" with Foster, were more likely to have originated with a black or a Hispanic than with a Caucasian. No gunpowder or bullet fragments were found in Foster's wounds that could be matched to the gun!

Despite this, Robert Fiske inserted a comment on page 38 of his report on Foster; a statement that Lisa Foster thought the gun found with her husband was one she had brought up from Little Rock, Arkansas.

This statement came from an interview of Lisa Foster conducted by the FBI on May 9th, 1994, more than nine months after Vincent Foster's death.

In the handwritten notes and final FD-302a report of the interview, the interviewing FBI agents describe the gun being shown to Lisa Foster as "silver colored", not just once, but many times. The gun is never described as dark blue or black.

The FBI agents are not quoting Lisa Foster, they write down THEIR impressions of what is being said and done. In their own words, on the bottom of page 16 and the top of page 17 of the FD-302a form, "LISA FOSTER believes that the gun found at Fort Marcy Park may be the silver gun which she brought up with her other belongings when she permanently moved to Washington."

In order for Lisa Foster to believe that the gun presented to her as the Fort Marcy Park gun might be the family silver gun, the gun presented as the Fort Marcy Park gun must also be silver. Lisa Foster doesn't have to be a gun expert to know that silver is not black.

From the official record, its clear that Lisa Foster was shown a gun she recognized as the gun she brought up from Little Rock, but its equally clear that this is not the same gun as that found with Vincent Foster. Black is not silver.

31 posted on 03/01/2008 12:54:28 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: bert
Maybe someone did, but not Hillary. At the cemetery she was beside herself with grief. Her hubby is a good actor, but as we've seen this campaign, her acting is not even "summer stock" quality. Many held that Vince and Hillary were an item. Her comportment at the gravesite gives evidence of that fact.

BTW if you want to know the truth, ask NYC School's Chancellor Joel Klein. As Deputy White House Counsel he was first into Foster's office and supposedly discovered the "suicide note"

32 posted on 03/01/2008 12:56:03 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature; All
An oldie of mine:

The Lonely Death of Vince Foster-- Case Unclosed?

33 posted on 03/01/2008 12:58:55 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

COLUMBO: CASE OF THE FOSTER “SUICIDE”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/949388/posts

http://www.aci.net/kalliste/columbo.htm

COLUMBO: CASE OF THE FOSTER “SUICIDE”
by P. J. Gladnick


(President Clinton is sitting at his desk in the Oval Office. A voice is heard on his intercom. It is his secretary.)

SECRETARY: Mr. President, Lieutenant Columbo is here to see you.

(The Oval Office door opens a bit. Columbo peeks in tentatively.)

COLUMBO: I hope I’m not disturbing you, Mr. President.

CLINTON (smiling broadly): Not at all! I heard that you were visiting the White House. That’s why I had my people take you off the tour line to see me. I’ve always been a big fan of yours.

(Columbo, puffing on a cigar and wearing a wrinkled raincoat, walks in a slouching manner up to Clinton. A beaming Clinton stands up from behind his desk and heartily shakes Columbo’s hand.)

COLUMBO: Mr. President, this is indeed an honor. Let me tell you, my wife is a big fan of yours. Sir, I don’t mean to impose but do you think you can autograph a photo for my wife?

CLINTON: Heck, that’s no problem. I’ll be happy to oblige.

(Clinton pulls a photo of himself from his desk, signs it, and hands it to Columbo.)

COLUMBO: This is terrific! You don’t know what this will mean to my wife_..Uhh, before I go, do you mind if I ask you a personal question?

CLINTON: Huh? Okay, sure.

COLUMBO: Could you tell me how much you paid for your suit? I really admire the material.

CLINTON: I, umm, think it cost about $500.

COLUMBO: And so clean too. With a suit like that you must send it out to the cleaners after each time you wear it.

CLINTON: Of course.

COLUMBO: Well, this is what’s bothering me. I heard that your good friend, the late Vincent Foster, was also a nice dresser yet there were carpet fibers discovered all over his suit when they found him after his tragic suicide in Fort Marcy Park.

(Clinton’s smile turns a bit tense.)

CLINTON: So?

COLUMBO: So it seems like a mystery how all these fibers ended up on his suit. You might pick up a few carpet fibers around the bottom of the pants but not all over the suit.

CLINTON: I think the FBI determined that the carpet fibers probably came from his home.

COLUMBO: That is only an assumption because the FBI never actually took samples from the carpet fibers at his home. With all those fibers on his suit, you would think that they would make a comparison.

CLINTON (Slightly exasperated): Look, Lieutenant Columbo, there have already been three investigations into this matter and they all ruled that Vince Foster committed suicide.

COLUMBO: Oh, I’m not questioning the investigations. I’m sure Mr. Foster died just the way they said but there are still a few loose ends.

CLINTON: Such as?

COLUMBO: Such as the autopsy X-rays.

CLINTON: What about the X-rays?

COLUMBO: Dr. James Beyer, the Deputy Medical Examiner for Northern Virginia, conducted the autopsy but no X-rays were taken.

CLINTON: No X-rays were taken? That’s absurd! They must have been taken in a case of this importance.

COLUMBO: Dr. Beyer checked off a box on the autopsy report stating that he took X-rays yet he later claimed the X-ray machine was inoperable.

CLINTON: Aren’t you forgetting the suicide note that Foster left behind?

COLUMBO (slaps forehead with his hand): That’s right! The suicide note! Obviously it must have been suicide if Foster left behind a suicide note.

(Clinton looks cheerful again.)

CLINTON: I guess that closes the case then.

COLUMBO: It sure does! Mr. President, you don’t know how relieved this makes me feel. I’m sorry to have taken up your time with this matter.

CLINTON: Think nothing of it.

(Columbo leaves through the door and Clinton returns to his desk. A few moments later the door opens again and Columbo leans just inside the doorway.)

COLUMBO: Uhh, there’s just one little point that I overlooked.

CLINTON (looking irritated): What is it, Lieutenant Columbo?

COLUMBO: How do we know that the suicide note was actually written by Mr. Foster?

CLINTON: The suicide note’s handwriting was analyzed and judged to be authentic.

COLUMBO: Yes, by a Capitol police sergeant who only studied handwriting as a hobby. The fact of the matter is that three renowned handwriting experts including Reginald Alton of Oxford University determined that the note, supposedly written by Mr. Foster, was an obvious forgery.

CLINTON: Lieutenant Columbo, are you one of those conspiracy kooks? The autopsy report, even without the X-rays, proved it was a suicide.

(Columbo reaches inside his raincoat and pulls out a couple of sheets of paper.)

COLUMBO: The strange thing is that the official finding says it was a mouth to head wound yet take a look at the report of the Fairfax County Medical Examiner, Dr. Haut. It came from the National Archives and was placed on the Internet from where I downloaded it.

(Columbo hands the papers to Clinton.)

Clinton: Hmm...It says that the wound was “mouth-head” just like the official report.

COLUMBO: Yes but look at the word “head.” It’s obvious that was typed in after another word just to its left was whited out. Then if you look on the second page of Haut’s report it actually says the wounds were “mouth to neck.” I submit, sir, that the first page was altered to change the wound location.

CLINTON: The bottom line is that, despite these discrepancies, the investigators have determined that Vince Foster committed suicide in Fort Marcy Park.

COLUMBO: Oh, sir. I’m not disputing their expertise. It’s just that professional police officers are trained to treat every death as a homicide until suicide is proven. In this case, however, Cheryl Braun, the senior Park Police Officer testified that they determined that Foster had committed suicide before they had even inspected the body.

CLINTON: This is all very interesting theory but the fact is that the Foster case has been ruled a suicide...Case closed.

COLUMBO: I’m sure you’re right about that. After all, if those in authority say it was a suicide then it must be so. Well, good day, Mr. President. Sorry for troubling you about details that must have some logical explanation.

CLINTON: Thank you for visiting, Lieutenant Columbo, and goodbye.

(Columbo leaves the room. Clinton returns to his desk and begins writing on some papers. A little while later we see Columbo looking from the outside into the Oval Office through a window just behind Clinton. Columbo begins tapping on the window. At first Clinton doesn’t hear him. Then he turns around and opens the window.)

CLINTON: Columbo! What is your problem?

(Columbo bends over and then stands back up again holding his shoes.)

COLUMBO: See all that dirt on the soles of my shoes?

CLINTON: Okay, they’re dirty. So what?

COLUMBO: It’s just like when my cousin Guido visits me. He likes working in my yard which is great but my wife throws a fit when Guido tries to walk into the house because of all the dirt on his shoes.

CLINTON: Will you please get to the point, Columbo!

COLUMBO: Well, the FBI scraped Mr. Foster’s shoes thoroughly but found no traces of soil. Everybody else who walked in the area of Fort Marcy Park where Foster was found came away with lots of dirt on their shoes.

CLINTON: You’re wrong, Columbo. A forensic expert found soil on Foster’s shoes.

COLUMBO: Oh yes. Henry Lee thought he found microscopic quantities of the soil on the shoes long after the FBI carefully went over them. Lee was the same fellow who determined that OJ Simpson must have been innocent because he thought he saw another footprint which never existed at the murder scene. Somehow I don’t think Mr. Lee is the most reliable expert in this regard.

CLINTON: Are you trying to say that Foster did not commit suicide in Fort Marcy Park?

COLUMBO: I think that could be a distinct possibility, sir. I’m sure that you, having been a friend of Mr. Foster, would want to leave no stone unturned to get to the bottom of this matter.

CLINTON: Just what do you expect me to do?

COLUMBO: It would be helpful if you could make the videotape from the White House parking lot surveillance camera available. We need to see Mr. Foster entering his car on the day he died.

CLINTON: That tape is missing from the White House vault where it was stored.

COLUMBO: Then how about the videotape from the vault surveillance camera? Maybe we can find out who removed the parking lot video from the vault.

CLINTON: The vault video is missing too. Perhaps the parking lot camera never caught Foster entering his car?

COLUMBO: At the most guarded building in the world? Not likely. As a matter of fact I’m sure that cameras are watching me right now and that Secret Service guards should be apprehending me at any moment.

(Suddenly several uniformed guards grab Columbo and haul him away.)

COLUMBO (shouting from the distance): This has been a really enlightening conversation, Mr. President! I hope we can pick up where we left off in the near future!

(Clinton slams the window shut.)


34 posted on 03/01/2008 1:03:19 PM PST by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: rrrod
This is an example of why we need to cheer for Obama as the nom. If the Clintons get the nom there will be no stopping them...they will win the pres in a landslide.

I wish more Freepers thought as you do.

35 posted on 03/01/2008 1:03:55 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Suicide by association is what I call it...


36 posted on 03/01/2008 1:06:40 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Check in with ... are you ready?

Former Senator Alphonse D'Amato

Al, AKA 'Senator Pothole,' for his attention to his constituents' demands, hired NYPD Top Dick Tony Ulasewicz to figure this all out. And he did. Unfortunately for Al, at the same time he was ready to drop the bomb on Clinton, Orenthal J. Simpson was claiming every minute of air time and every drop of ink any newspaper could spare. The work Senator Al's committee? Try page 37, right after "Lost Dogs" and "Used Pick-up Trucks." No pictures.

Detective Tony found out what everybody already knew: Vince bumped off somewhere else other than gay-rendezvous Fort Marcy Park, carried there in a green carpet. Gun was a fake. A "throwdown" made from odd parts. (Detective Tony had no trouble with that ... NYC Cops been pulling that trick for years) No bullet, no blood, no brains at the scene. Missing X-Rays, Missing crime scene photos, bad guys physically intimidating witnesses, Faked autopsy, forged suicide note, Mrs. Clinton and Bill outa town (Al Capone used that trick). No car keys found with body until AFTER Mrs. Clinton's stooge Craig Livingstone (wonder where he is) visited the morgue, investigation by Park Police (LOL) Pretty darn good cover-up, though. All we can say is it didn't happen the way the Administration says it happened.

NEWSFLASH!! Vince Foster still dead.

37 posted on 03/01/2008 1:06:54 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Nobama08)
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To: devere

That lead me to believe that 1. They weren’t real Republicans and 2. They weren’t special prosecutors. It’s like Bill O casually yet doggedly discounting the Swiftboat Vets and saying the recent Shamnesty bill which he could not have read was a “good compromise”.


38 posted on 03/01/2008 1:09:33 PM PST by mcshot (Missing my grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I miss those exciting times ....vote Hillary


39 posted on 03/01/2008 1:09:47 PM PST by woofie (Impeach whoever is the next President)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Oh yeah, the minute Al was ready to let the info out, Mr. Bill, who had not been sitting idly by with Monica whist Al was plotting all of this, had Senator Al's brother indicted on what turned out to be groundless racketering charges ... sorta.

Bottom line: Mr. and Mrs. Clinton dodge another bullet. Vince did not and he is still dead.

40 posted on 03/01/2008 1:11:12 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Nobama08)
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To: xkaydet65
X42 laughing then crying after Ron Brown's burial service

(This is a video (mpeg?), Let it load, watch the facial expression change)

41 posted on 03/01/2008 1:12:39 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I forget his exact words, but bill clinton held a little memorial gathering of his White House aides in the Rose Garden shortly after Vince Foster’s death and said to them something like this: “This will teach us that friends don’t betray friends.”

Foster had apparently been having a guilty conscience, and over the previous weekend before his death had asked permission to quit his job. But as the saying goes, the Mafia doesn’t allow its members to quit.


42 posted on 03/01/2008 1:13:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Slicksadick

Most of us know what the Clintons are capable of doing....but some reason a lot of FReepers are pushing this aside.

I think Obama will fade by election day and should McCain get a conservative VP he can win.

It is possible the Clintons will sabotage the Obama ticket big time. Id like to hear Obama say he would re-open the Vince Foster/Ron Brown investigations. All hell would break lose!


43 posted on 03/01/2008 1:14:27 PM PST by rrrod
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To: devere
The real mystery is why two Republican special prosecutors, Robert Fiske and Ken Starr, covered up Foster’s murder.

At the upper levels of society, there are no political parties, just raw power and greed. The masters of the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same.

44 posted on 03/01/2008 1:15:29 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

The real mystery is why two Republican special prosecutors, Robert Fiske and Ken Starr, covered up Foster’s murder.

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At the upper levels of society, there are no political parties, just raw power and greed. The masters of the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same.


Bingo! Nail on the head. At the lower levels, the masses are just being rope-a-doped by distractions coming from both sides. While both major parties have the same long term goals.


45 posted on 03/01/2008 1:29:38 PM PST by nralife
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To: lowbridge
hehehe...LOL! ....thats' very good.
I'm sure Peter Falk (Bubba :), will be "offering" you a deal, "You Can't" (think Arkancide :) refuse...
46 posted on 03/01/2008 1:35:59 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

The clintons are good at hiding things and scaring into silence all those who might out them.


47 posted on 03/01/2008 1:37:39 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

This whole case really stinks. Why is it that when an ordinary citizen is even mentioned in a criminal case, his/her life is turned upside down? His/her personal records, including Internet data, are suddenly the property of investigators. Why is it that the Clintoons have been exempted from that procedure? Taking files from Foster’s office is, in itself, a damning indictment! Why have those who did that not been indicted?


48 posted on 03/01/2008 1:48:58 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: ExTexasRedhead

.....Just curious.......

He took care of the money. There were things he didn’t like, got cold feet, honesty attack, and became expendable.

The same was true of Ron Brown.


49 posted on 03/01/2008 1:51:09 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Thanks for the link. Maybe, someday, we will see some justice.

"Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."

50 posted on 03/01/2008 1:54:28 PM PST by labette
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