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latest gun registration/confiscation bill (MN)
GOCRA ^ | 3-1-08 | Wobbly Bob

Posted on 03/01/2008 1:48:15 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB

The Minnesota Gun Registration Bill - HF3324 (house authors Paymar; Murphy, E.; Mullery; Erhardt; Johnson; Peterson, N.; Walker; Slocum) and SF2989 (Senate authors Prettner Solon; Anderson; Dibble) is just their latest effort to infringe upon your rights in St. Paul. Go to

https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H3324.0.html&session=ls85

to read the entire ugly bill. This is a classic example how to treat lawful citizens as criminals (or make lawful citizens into criminals), while totally giving the criminals a free pass.

Although it begins with registration of lawful transfers of handguns and assault rifles, this is a bill to enact what will become a Minnesota gun registration of all firearms, yes including all your hunting shotguns and rifles. Everything. All lawful buyers at a gun show will have to undergo a NICS check and have the transfer recorded, no matter what gun you buy. You will not be allowed to even loan a gun to anyone including your nephew, bother or spouse to use for hunting for more than 12 hours without going to an FFL and running a NICS background check. And it get’s worse. All lawful sales covered under these bills must be permanently recorded including seller, buyer, and firearm information. A stolen firearm used in crimes will be traced back to the former owners, forever. However, illegal transfers of any gun between criminals will never be recorded. The Brady Bunch has been introducing similar legislation all over the country, and it has now arrived in Minnesota. It’s now time for you to fight back against the gun grabbers in St. Paul.

(Excerpt) Read more at mnccrn.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bill; gun; registration
The three points we need to make to the legislature right now are:

1. We OPPOSE these bills. The Solon/Paymar bills are GUN REGISTRATION bills designed to hassle Minnesota's 1.25 million law-abiding gun owners. The ultimate goal is to make owning a gun too much trouble (legally, financially, and socially). It doesn’t hassle criminals at all.

2. There is no actual need for these bills. Legitimate private sales have been regulated in Minnesota since 1994 by Minn. Stat. sec. 609.66, subd. 1f. There is no evidence that existing law doesn't work with respect to law-abiding sellers.

3. These bills will not stop criminals nor insane people. Gang members and other criminals acquire their guns through the same illegal black-market that supplies drugs. Everything inner city criminals do regarding firearms is already illegal and these bills will not change a thing. The only thing that stops them is incarceration or shot placement. No amount of hassling the good guys will stop the bad guys. Furthermore, every mass shooting incident in the past year has involved an insane person who had passed a background check to acquire their gun. Another background check would not have made any difference.

You can help stop gun registration of lawful transfers from becoming law in Minnesota by emailing the legislators in St. Paul and express your opposition to this bill. If you use our newly redesigned email tool at http://www.gocra-mn.org/legislation.php your email will be sent to the entire legislature just by clicking on the “both” button (House and Senate). Please take a moment to send an email. Do not think your voice is unimportant, it is very important that our legislators hear form you.

Copy and paste the sample email below and personalize it as you wish.

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I am writing to you because I oppose HF 3324/SF2989. These bills are a solution in search of a problem.

Guns used by criminals to commit crimes are rarely if ever lawfully purchased. Every mass shooting incident in the past year has involved an insane person with no criminal history who had passed a background check to acquire their gun. Another background check wouldn't have made a difference. The recently passed NICS Improvement Act mandates what information the states must report and provides the funding to Minnesota to implement.

Enacting a broad gun registration system will not prevent any known criminal from buying all the guns they want right here in Minnesota. This bill does not force background checks or the recording of any transfers of guns sold illegally in the black market or by gang members to their friends, which is a major flaw in these bills.

Minnesota should only require that all illegal firearms transfers between persons who are not otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under state or federal law, be recorded and traced. These bills totally fail to track illegal transfers.

Minnesota does not need a gun registration law for those citizens who are already law abiding sellers and owners. Please do not support these bills and work hard to stop them.

Thank You

Your Name

Address

1 posted on 03/01/2008 1:48:17 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

If Minnesota’s governor is to have any shot at all (no pun intended) at the VP, he will not sign it.


2 posted on 03/01/2008 1:54:04 PM PST by kjo
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To: WOBBLY BOB; MplsSteve

Can the measure be put on the ballot this year?


3 posted on 03/01/2008 2:06:10 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: kjo

Yeah. He can count on his Republican freinds in the state house to back him up, too.


4 posted on 03/01/2008 2:07:42 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB; MplsSteve; MN_Rightside

Shoot, this cannot pass!

I will write today - thanks for posting this...


5 posted on 03/01/2008 2:08:14 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

except for that traitorous Erhardt .


6 posted on 03/01/2008 2:10:52 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Just wrote my Rep.


7 posted on 03/01/2008 2:22:49 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: WOBBLY BOB

If you want to give a gun to your nephew, you will have to go to an FFL, transfer the gun to the dealer, and have him run a NICS check on your nephew. If your nephew is approved, the dealer can then transfer the gun to him. And, of course, you’ll have to pay a fee for all of this.

Worse, if your nephew is denied, or is deferred and you don’t want to wait, or if NICS is down, and you don’t want to wait, and you decide to terminate the transfer, the dealer is required to to a NICS check before transfering the gun back to you.

If he can’t transfer it to either of you, he’s required to transfer it to his local law enforcement - within 24 hours.

I certainly hope we never see NICS go down for a weekend, ever again...


8 posted on 03/01/2008 2:23:45 PM PST by jdege
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To: WOBBLY BOB
except for that traitorous Erhardt
Yep. Ron Erhardt and Neil Peterson - two of the six RINOs who voted to overturn Pawlenty's veto of the largest tax increase in Minnesota history, are the two Republican co-authors of this bill.

Because of them, and only because of them, the Star Tribune can characterize this as a "bipartisan measure".

9 posted on 03/01/2008 2:26:21 PM PST by jdege
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Incremental erosion of our rights.
10 posted on 03/01/2008 2:27:09 PM PST by TYVets
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To: TYVets
Its a skosh more than incremental.
11 posted on 03/01/2008 2:34:08 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Here is a good link to an essay on gun registration:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a6659be6b20.htm


12 posted on 03/01/2008 3:16:20 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Its a skosh more than incremental.

My apology's, you are correct.

I could not spell skosh so I went with incremental erosion of our rights.

13 posted on 03/01/2008 3:35:18 PM PST by TYVets
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To: jdege
So, two Rino’s make it bipartisan? Incredible.
14 posted on 03/01/2008 3:45:14 PM PST by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Maybe a Skosh and a half, or even two Skosh.


15 posted on 03/01/2008 3:55:46 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

WHY THEY WANT OUR GUNS!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4

“Certainly, one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.” —Humphrey, Hubert, Democrat Senator from Minnesota. “Know Your Lawmakers,” Guns, February 1960,
p.4.

My, how the times — and the Dems — have changed!


16 posted on 03/01/2008 4:16:29 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: TYVets
“skosh” is a derivative of “skoshi” which is Japanese for a little bit...
17 posted on 03/01/2008 4:55:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I can speel “little bit” in English.
18 posted on 03/01/2008 4:57:34 PM PST by TYVets
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Outlaw crime! Works every time!


19 posted on 03/01/2008 6:01:51 PM PST by Waco
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Outlaw crime! Works every time!


20 posted on 03/01/2008 6:02:14 PM PST by Waco
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To: WOBBLY BOB
All lawful buyers at a gun show will have to undergo a NICS check and have the transfer recorded, no matter what gun you buy. You will not be allowed to even loan a gun to anyone including your nephew, bother or spouse to use for hunting for more than 12 hours without going to an FFL and running a NICS background check. And it get’s worse. All lawful sales covered under these bills must be permanently recorded including seller, buyer, and firearm information.

Funny how liberals never learn from their mistakes or the mistakes of other liberals.

The Canadians have a similar system which was a total failure; did not help solve a single crime, did not reduce violence or murder rates. Spent billions of dollars and never even was fully implemented.

They have to know that this system can not succeed in its stated goals.

To any thinking person this can only lead to one conclusion; their stated goal is not the real goal.

So what is their real goal? I leave that to you to consider.

21 posted on 03/02/2008 12:26:03 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
It’s now time for you to fight back against the gun grabbers in St. Paul.

Introduce an identical bill, but cut every instance of "gun" or "firearm" and replace it with "abortion". Require all abortions to be registered with the government and institute a waiting period for the background check of the girl involved before she can proceed.

22 posted on 03/02/2008 1:04:16 AM PST by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: Conservative4Life

bump for future reference,

I’m emailing this to all my fellow LEO’s and associates


23 posted on 03/03/2008 4:55:51 AM PST by Conservative4Life (write in Hunter)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Get this:

I wrote Kalin (D) he said:

“As a 2nd Amendment advocate, I oppose HF 3324 as written. If it is not amended, I will vote against it in committee.

- Jeremy”

Good info & good to know...


24 posted on 03/03/2008 11:31:23 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I changed my wording up a bit to help make it sound less like a form letter. I also added my thanks to my Rep (R-Emmer) and Sen (R-Koch) for their stance on the recent $7 billion tax hike.


25 posted on 03/03/2008 11:44:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
that could be good or bad. he doesn’t state what amendment(s) would make it palatable to him.

he may want MORE restrictions added.

26 posted on 03/03/2008 11:57:36 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

He’s a 2nd Amendment advocate, so I think he’s ok on this.


27 posted on 03/03/2008 12:14:29 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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