Posted on 03/01/2008 8:27:34 PM PST by Scarchin
Oberlin College has come up with a creative way for students from out of state to show they reside in Ohio, so they can vote.
The college in northern Ohio is sending out dummy utility bills to dorm residents. There are no charges for students to pay for their phone and high-speed Internet connections, but there's a bold-faced note at the bottom saying the statement can serve as proof of ID at a polling place.
The arrangement got a blessing from the state's top election official.
Colin Koffel from Madison, Wis., says he and other out-of-state students at Oberlin were frustrated when the state's new voter ID requirements took effect in 2006. But he says they can now register to vote and go to the polls without jumping through complex hoops.
The people behind this belong at the business end of a noose. It’s voter fraud. it’s corrupting the process.
Right out of the old liberal play book.
What am I missing here?
“...students from out of state show that they reside in Ohio”?
Isn’t that fraud?
I wonder if the students will then be able to turn around and use the fake utility bills to file for a refund from the college for paying out of state tuition.
It follows the logic chain!
I keep re-reading this story and thinking I’m missing something.
Is it me or is Oberlin basically going around a law specifically designed to prevent this sort of thing.
I’ll have to research the official who gave his “blessing.”
Democrat? He better be!
Fraud, and they admit it. Nail em.
There is only a 30-day residency requirement for voting privileges in OH. Votes are only a utility bill away.
The Sec of State is.....A Democrat!!!! Jennifer Brunner
I wonder if there’s a way to ensure that they don’t also vote absentee in their home state.
I doubt it.
Depends on the residency rules for the state. If the students have been living in Ohio since late August or early September, that's 60 days by the time election day rolls around.
It does seem to me that voting as a resident of a state ought to open a student up for tickets for invalid drivers licenses (I have to get mine updated every time I move), taxes, etc...
I wonder what Charles Martin Hall would have to say about it?
...while they vote from their home address through absentee ballots, no doubt...they’re teaching interesting lessons at liberal Oberlin these days.....
This is the value of a double vote (home state and school state) in the USA today?
America is becomeing a Banana Republicstan.
“I wonder if there’s a way to ensure that they don’t also vote absentee in their home state.”
That’s my thought. Why can’t they just send in absentee ballots? That’s what I did.
I think the only way this is likely to change is if a large number of politicians show up the polls only to find that they have already voted.
Democrat governor newly elected. Democrat senator S. Brown newly elected and co-sponsor of at least one of the Obama bills (patriotic corporations or .7% UN tax. I forget).
Oberlin? No surprise there. THEY should close, not Antioch.
Remember, Ken Blackwell gave Bush 2004. Ohio must be punished, even if Cleveland’s cess pool voter fraud couldn’t carry Kerry.
I WOULD like to see the ACLJ take on the student fee thing though. THAT would be victory in itself, that and paying income tax twice...even for their parents funding the education.
“a 30-day residency requirement for voting privileges in OH. Votes are only a utility bill away.”
Yes. I remember the out of state licenses that went away after 2004’s election. Poof, and they were gone.
True, but how long must someone be a resident to qualify for in state tuition pricing?
If the college goes this far I wonder how their double standards face up to their own scrutiny.
So it stands to reason these out of state students won’t have to pay out-of-state tuition any more because they have magically been made “residents.” I’m sure the Moms and Dads paying junior’s tuition are ecstatic.
For crying out loud, how hard would it have been for the students to have registered at home and gotten an absentee ballot? Does the school have to wipe their noses because Mommy’s not around, too?
See post #9 There is only a 30-day residency requirement for voting privileges in OH.
This should exclude them from privileges some states give students such as not re-registering their cars.
Would this prevent them being listed as a dependent on their parents state or federal income taxes?
Oberlin students can’t pull a license out of a wallet any better that pulling their heads . . . well, you know.
democrap vote fraud ping
Somebody there needs a long stretch in prison.
Many will be voting twice in the general election.
That’s a pretty lame definition of “identification” it that’s all it takes.
“Oberlin College has come up with a creative way for students from out of state to show they reside in Ohio, so they can vote.”
Gee. What is wrong with everyone on this thread?
Nothing is being done wrong by the college.
They have managed a way to cut some red tape for college students who are residing in Ohio for school, and who might not vote if they had to pay for plane tickets and lose 2-days of school to go to their home state and pull the levers there.
I think that the easier it is to vote, the better for our country.
Since we have ways to make it easier, we should also make sure that it won’t be misused.
Because we have the means already to completely verify the identity and legality of a voter.
But, it is the politicians who want to fight over whether or not it should be used.
I don’t think anybody at that college deserves a long stretch in prison.
Yep...with those utility bills...you can show residency then...and get the discounted tuition deal. I’m pretty sure these idiots didn’t think that far. So you can figure that university revenue will decrease by 10 to 20 percent. The Chancellor will walk around trying to figure out why...and six months later....a audit will reveal the whole picture.
We have serious issues throughout the 50 states on people showing up and just registering. I’ll bet at least 500,000 folks are dual-registered throughout the US.
Even if that would be legal, they could vote by absentee in the state from which they came.
If what they are doing is wrong, it is voter fraud. I don't know. When my granddaughter caucussed for Hillary, I called to find out what she needed to go (no out-of-state involved but she had moved and there was a question of voter id and correct precinct). The person for the campaign told me that if she went to her old precinct, that wouldn't be right, and if she couldn't find her voter id card (she had voted within the last 4 years which is the rule in my state) to bring a utility bill showing her current address which worked. Still that is not the same thing.
What hacks me off is that our local schools have been hosting the Democratic nominees and getting the kids to go vote for one or the other. I think they are overstepping the bounds there. If the student comes and asks the teacher, that is one thing, but if the teachers or schools are initiating it, that is somewhat coercive in my book, like maybe they will a better grade if they do it to please the teacher.
Nothing that increases votes for Democrats can possibly be fraudulent.
I'd be willing to bet we have that many in Arizona alone due to the large number of "snowbirds" that show up to winter here just a few months prior to the elections.
As my paternal grandmother (a product of NYC politics, and well versed in the ethics of Tammany Hall) used to say:
“Vote early and often!”
Now they can vote in both states?
Can you say, “More votes for Obama?”
See: http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/ebook/part1/eligibility_rules06.html
for a rundown of the issue.
Word is the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office may head east in its probe of summer residents who sneakily - and illegally - vote twice: once in the Big Apple where their primary homes are, and again in the Long Island towns and villages where they own getaways.
The Fire Island probe has already resulted in a grand jury subpoenaing Saltaire election records. Among those under the microscope are former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro and her hubby, John Zaccaro, who deny wrongdoing.
http://www.pagesix.com/celebrities/Geraldine+Ferraro
BTW Geraldine endorsed Hillary.
No such thing. Oberlin is a private school.
Ever heard of ABSENTEE ballots before? That is what my daughter is doing in the TX primary and the general election. I'd bet these kids vote at their college town and absentee.
If these fake bills are good enough to show residency for the purpose of voting, they certainly should be good enough to show residency for purposes of in-state tuition. Voting is a higher order of civic privilege.
Someone should be prosecuted for this.
They can't vote by absentee ballot in their own home state??
I’ve heard of absentee ballots.
Your daughter is probably the exception to the rule.
The students at the college in the article probably don’t know what an absentee ballot is.
They probably think that is what you use if you are ‘sick’ on voting day.
“it’s corrupting the process.”
Or an attempt by the school/students to be as corrupt as the rest of the nation.
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