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Hagel, Lugar To Serve on Obama Cabinet?
Times Online ^ | 3-2-2008 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 03/01/2008 9:30:09 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77

AS Barack Obama enters the final stages of the fight for the Democratic presidential nomination, he is preparing to detach the core voters of John McCain, the likely Republican nominee, with the same ruthless determination with which he has peeled off Hillary Clinton’s supporters.

The scene is set for a tussle between the two candidates for the support of some of the sharpest and most independent minds in politics. Obama is hoping to appoint cross-party figures to his cabinet such as Chuck Hagel, the Republican senator for Nebraska and an opponent of the Iraq war, and Richard Lugar, leader of the Republicans on the Senate foreign relations committee.

Senior advisers confirmed that Hagel, a highly decorated Vietnam war veteran and one of McCain’s closest friends in the Senate, was considered an ideal candidate for defence secretary. Some regard the outspoken Republican as a possible vice-presidential nominee although that might be regarded as a “stretch”.

Asked about his choice of cabinet last week, Obama told The Sunday Times: “Chuck Hagel is a great friend of mine and I respect him very much,” although he was wary of appearing as though he was already choosing the White House curtains. But after winning 11 primary contests in a row after Super Tuesday, he is ready to elbow Clinton off the stage.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; bipartisan; chebama; cultofobama; election; hagel; lugar; messiah; nobama; obama
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Obama thinks Hagel and Lugar will get him conservative votes! LOL He obviously has no idea what conservatism is.
1 posted on 03/01/2008 9:30:10 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Fox_Mulder77

HUSSEIN Obama will fill his cabinet with his Nation of Islam buddies.


2 posted on 03/01/2008 9:31:38 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Hagel??? That RINO?


3 posted on 03/01/2008 9:31:45 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

I saw that while googling. No one considers Lugar or Hagel Republicans anyway. The other thing that is popping up is a Obama/Mayor-who-shall-not-be-named ticket. (Hint: Name startes with a “B.”


4 posted on 03/01/2008 9:33:46 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Hagel......way to go Nebraska. Once again.

-snicker-


5 posted on 03/01/2008 9:35:22 PM PST by egginanest ( "Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you." -Winston Churchill-)
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To: NonValueAdded

We live in the “21st Century Dark Ages”


6 posted on 03/01/2008 9:36:05 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

He makes a pretty shower...


7 posted on 03/01/2008 9:37:41 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Fox_Mulder77; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: Hagel, Lugar To Serve on Obama Cabinet?

Get a rope!

Hey, I can say that... Hagel & Lugar are white guys!

8 posted on 03/01/2008 9:37:45 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Fox_Mulder77; Clintonfatigued; darkangel82; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; JohnnyZ; ...

Lugar’s appointment might assure something else... if the GOP incumbent Governor loses reelection (which is a strong possibility), the new Dem Governor appoints another rodent to the Senate vacancy (meaning both IN Senate seats would be rodent), probably Baron Hill. We could be down to as low as 41 seats if the elections are a disaster for us (the fewest number of GOP Senators since the 1978 election).


9 posted on 03/01/2008 9:38:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Fox_Mulder77
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10 posted on 03/01/2008 9:38:38 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

This guy is a commie b*****d. He reminds me of Hitler.


11 posted on 03/01/2008 9:38:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Hey! Here’s another reason to vote for Obama. We get rid of two Rino Senators for the price of one.


12 posted on 03/01/2008 9:39:12 PM PST by e-male
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To: Fox_Mulder77
If Obama manages to get himself elected, his cabinet will consist entirely of Democrats - specifically the ones instrumental in winning over superdelegates to his side.

Just because Hagel and Lugar suck up to the Democrats doesn't mean they have any future.

Look at Jim Jeffords - he sold his whole career for an advance on a two-book deal and now he exists only as a punchline.

13 posted on 03/01/2008 9:39:32 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: NonValueAdded

And suggesting Luger and Hagel will enhance his campaign how? Luger the loser and Hagel the consummate RINO. Go for it, Obama!


14 posted on 03/01/2008 9:40:09 PM PST by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: e-male

“Hey! Here’s another reason to vote for Obama. We get rid of two Rino Senators for the price of one.”

Yeah, but you’ll get Kerry and Gore.


15 posted on 03/01/2008 9:42:39 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77; All
Pick Obama’s new middle name
16 posted on 03/01/2008 9:46:36 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
His Mama named him Barack Hussein.

I respect his Mama's wishes so will use that name.

I just pray I don't have to call him President Barack Hussein Obama, ever.

17 posted on 03/01/2008 10:02:27 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Obama is a MAROON!


18 posted on 03/01/2008 10:09:38 PM PST by A. Morgan (VOTE FOR A LIBERAL N' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS and OUTA' GAS!)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Pretty good, we give them Hagel and Lugar for parties to be named later... much much later. Is it too late to attach McCain to this deal?


19 posted on 03/01/2008 10:27:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Particularly Hagel!


20 posted on 03/01/2008 10:31:26 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NonValueAdded
Hagel is on the list. The mental list I keep in the off chance something terrible happens in America and god forbid a civil war breaks out(never happen). Nearly every Democrat, Keth Oberman the commies on CNN and a few celebs like Babs are all on the same list. Hagel makes John McCain look like a John Bircher. I reserve getting this angry over McCain breaking bad on fellow Republicans, I forgot about that jerk Hagel. Fuming.....Man I just got to say it, I hate that guy. President Bush needs to send Hagel on a Year long fact finding Mission in Iraq.
21 posted on 03/01/2008 11:33:14 PM PST by America-The-Great-1967 (Don't fix the blame, fix the problem.)
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Rodney King as Secretary of State..


22 posted on 03/02/2008 12:28:41 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And the republicans deserve a butt kicking. They spent too much of our money, the dollar is a disaster, Iraq is draining money we don’t have and have to borrow from China & OPEC.

Then we nominate a 71 year old Dole redux. Except for the Bush tax cuts, I can’t see what the republican leaders have done to deserve better.


23 posted on 03/02/2008 12:31:53 AM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Chuckie Hegel - the wimp who cried in Congress.

Well, we better get used to it, since the McCainiac is - predictably - imploding. And we failed to coalesce behind a single conservative candidate, throwing Romney under the bus because the evangelicals have a feud going with Mormons.


24 posted on 03/02/2008 12:53:20 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: LdSentinal

Obama is not a Muslim. I am tired of stupid racist posts.


25 posted on 03/02/2008 1:03:34 AM PST by nyconse
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To: NonValueAdded

Obama is going to win...he has run a much better campaign then Hillary. I think McCain will lose...sigh. I don’t like McCain anyway. Ah well, at least I won’t have to deal with Clinton chaos and bimbo eruptions.


26 posted on 03/02/2008 1:05:15 AM PST by nyconse
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To: ZULU

Lets quit blaming conservatives. Leave that to the RHINOs We had several conservative candidates who split the vote. This gave McCain his opening. Of course, the most liberal states voted first. The GOP wanted a moderate and they got their wish. Be careful what you wish for. There is no evidence that Evangelicals would not have supported Romney in the end. I supported Fred Thompson at first and not because I dislike LDS either.


27 posted on 03/02/2008 1:09:13 AM PST by nyconse
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To: fieldmarshaldj

All the more reason for all conservative voters throughout the U.S. to truly not stay at home on November 4 while seriously concentrating all of their efforts on all political offices at every political level outside of the Presidential race. A truly conservative majority in Congress will successfully prevent long-term socialism from happening throughout the U.S. no matter who the next “leftist” POTUS is!


28 posted on 03/02/2008 1:18:04 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: SatinDoll

Hitler wasn’t a commie, perhaps a bastard.


29 posted on 03/02/2008 2:20:17 AM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: nyconse

Look at this link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978697/posts?page=9#9

Then decide.


30 posted on 03/02/2008 2:31:58 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: ajay_kumar

That’s rather an insult to Bob Dole. Despite some FReepers’ beliefs, Dole was not a liberal RINO. If McCain was more like Dole, that would be an improvement.


31 posted on 03/02/2008 2:48:16 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: The_Republican

True, but he was charismatic like Barrack Obama. Hitler told the world and everyone, through his writings (My Life), exactly what he would do. Senator Obama has written books about his life, too, and if you read carefully you can figure out what he would do if he held power.

Hitler was a National Socialist (Nazi). Senator Obama is not just for national socialism, but for global socialism (communism), and establishing a global government. That is why he wants to turn over billions of dollars of our hard earned tax revenue to the United Nations under the guise of relieving poverty. It is blatant wealth redistribution, and most Americans are completely ignorant of it. His Global Poverty Act would strip our economy and destroy this nation. Hopefully Bush will veto it if it ever gets to his desk. The Republicans in the Senate ought to kill it outright any way they can.

Senator Barrack Obama is dangerous.


32 posted on 03/02/2008 3:38:36 AM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: nyconse

And you are sure of this because..............


33 posted on 03/02/2008 3:40:25 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: The_Republican; SatinDoll

There’s not a nickel’s difference between them. See the third quote on my FR profile page, the two-paragraph one by Hayek.


34 posted on 03/02/2008 3:50:25 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Oh, see, I thought Obama was saying he was going to appoint REPUBLICANS to his so-called cabinet.


35 posted on 03/02/2008 4:21:34 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: sageb1
"No one considers Lugar or Hagel Republicans anyway"

Its not about republicans versus democrats. Its about centrists versus extremists. Its the RINO Main Street Republican centrists joining with DLC New Democrat centrists.

Earlier in the dem campaign there was an issue of whether or not Obama had been a member of the DLC.

So, when Obama considers RINOs for his cabinet, he is DLC. Also notice down towards the bottom of the article where it says that Obama is more like Bill Clinton than Hillary is. Bill Clinton started the DLC New Democrat movement.

The article also points out it is not just about left versus right, but also about populists versus elitists. Hillary is the elitist because she takes corporate/PAC money. Obama doesn't so he represents the "common man".

Because Obama is beating Hillary on populism, she released her "populist manifesto" two weeks ago. And they are both bad-mouthing NAFTA because NAFTA benefits the elites and hurts the "little guy". But it is only campaign rhetoric.

36 posted on 03/02/2008 4:34:05 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Fox_Mulder77
If you read through the article, you'll note that the "reporter" apparently never bothered to ask either Hagel or Lugar if they'd been approached or had a reaction.

So ... the Obama campaign wants to solidify the media myth of The Big O's moderation and bipartisanship. The campaign floats a story that The One is considering a couple of Republicans. The press runs with the headline. The reporter has done his job. Political point scored. But there's actually nothing there.

First of all, any and every President considers, and usually makes, a couple of cross-Party appointments. That's routine. See Norman Mineta. See Bill Cohen. You do it perhaps for outreach, perhaps to help move a key issue on the Hill, or just to have something to throw back at the press when it accuses you of being narrowly partisan. (A bigger concern for Republicans than for dems, who would rarely be questioned on this.)

Would Lugar or Hagel consider such an offer? Well, if a President calls, you listen politely. You would have to have a meeting of the minds. You would have to be persuaded, for example, that a President Obama genuinely wants your leadership and will give you some running room, as opposed to simply wanting Republican cover for a Daily Kos foreign policy. That would probably be a hard sell.

What would I expect Lugar to say if a reporter asked him about this story? Lugar is a gentleman but also a pretty reliable Republican warhorse so I would expect him to say something like: "In many years in Congress I have worked with Presidents of both parties. The national interest transcends parties and I will do my best to work constructively with the next President, whoever it is. If Senator Obama wants my advice and counsel, I will certainly give it. But as for Secretary of State, no one has asked. I would be honored to be asked and would have to consider it carefully, but my view is that the best way to ensure a Republican Secretary of State is to elect a Republican President. So I will be working hard to elect John McCain."

Or words to that effect.

37 posted on 03/02/2008 4:34:42 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Recovering_Democrat

LOLOL!!!


38 posted on 03/02/2008 4:35:04 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: sphinx

I totally agree with you............... You have to admit though, it’s kinda funny that Obama would choose their names to float out there.


39 posted on 03/02/2008 4:46:12 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Bender2
Oh goodie, I get to be SOD (in more mays than one)

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40 posted on 03/02/2008 4:54:19 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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To: sphinx

Bill Clinton had a republican Secretary of Defense(Cohen). Bush had a democrat Transportation Secretary(Mineta). DHS Secretary Chertoff is apolitical.


41 posted on 03/02/2008 4:57:14 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: nyconse
nyconse...Obama is going to lose many life long democrats.

This is only a grass roots observation but many of the dems I have spoken to when there is not a crowd around tell me that they will NEVER vote for Obama, and they do not trust Hillary.

Heck even on the panel that Luntz had last week, four of them said they would consider voting for McCain.

42 posted on 03/02/2008 4:58:46 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Obama's fallacy here is thinking that the modern GOP equals Conservatism, and that Conservatives would hold their nose and vote for him over McCain if he embraces RINOs Hagel and Lugar.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen. And I'm not voting for McCain either. Third Party all the way!

43 posted on 03/02/2008 5:03:09 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: mware

In the photo you posted, notice he is wearing weejun loafers and no socks. Is he a 1960s frat boy, or what?


44 posted on 03/02/2008 5:06:28 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

I got one question. Does he put dimes or pennies in his loafers.


45 posted on 03/02/2008 5:08:24 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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To: mware

Coins in his loafers? That is so high-schoolish.


46 posted on 03/02/2008 5:11:35 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Yeah, but I teach in a middle school. It's hard to get out of their mindset.

7th graders are quite an interesting species, one minute talking about going out, and the next about sponge bob square pants.

47 posted on 03/02/2008 5:15:09 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You mean soon to be ex-ex-ex Rep. Baron Hill?


48 posted on 03/02/2008 5:16:03 AM PST by Impy ("Our rivers are full of fish..." B. H. Obama)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

RINOS and RATS—PERFECT TOGETHER


49 posted on 03/02/2008 5:18:07 AM PST by RU88
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Obama’s fallacy here is thinking that the modern GOP equals Conservatism”

BINGO!!!


50 posted on 03/02/2008 5:27:25 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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