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Michigan Prisons To Be Tobacco-Free
ClickonDetroit ^ | March 2, 2008 | AP

Posted on 03/02/2008 4:35:27 PM PST by ShadowDancer

Michigan Prisons To Be Tobacco-Free

POSTED: 5:09 pm EST March 2, 2008

LANSING, Mich. -- The Michigan Department of Corrections plans to ban smoking and the use of other tobacco products by prisoners and staff early next year.

State prison officials plan to extend an existing ban on smoking in prison buildings to outdoor property, the Detroit Free Press reported. Smoking cessation programs for inmates and staff are planned.

"It won't happen overnight, but we should see healthier inmates long-term ... and that should translate into some health care savings" for taxpayers, Corrections spokesman Russ Marlan said.

Smoking currently is banned in prison housing units, but inmates and staff are permitted to smoke outside buildings.

About 70 percent of the state's more than 50,000 prisoners are smokers, the newspaper reports, and state officials say they believe the prohibition on tobacco use will improve the health of inmates.

The target date for implementation is Feb. 1, 2009. But the Corrections department says intermediate steps -- including scaling back tobacco sales in prison stores -- are set to begin within weeks.

Mel Grieshaber, executive director of the Michigan Corrections Organization, which represents about 9,000 corrections officers in state prisons, said the rules announced last week are "too rigid."

Grieshaber noted that other state employees, including those who work for the Department of Corrections in Lansing, may smoke outside their buildings.

Inmate Kirk Brown, 37, of Port Huron, who is serving a 6- to 30-year sentence on drug charges, said he has smoked since he was 25. He said he and other prisoners use tobacco to "relieve stress."

"This is a very stressful environment," said Brown, who is housed at the state's prison complex in Jackson.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: corrections; inmates; pufflist

1 posted on 03/02/2008 4:35:28 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: ShadowDancer

Oh man, if they do that I bet their customer base will drop.


2 posted on 03/02/2008 4:36:12 PM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: ShadowDancer

Perhaps the niccotine fits will cause a shrinking prison population due to violence?


3 posted on 03/02/2008 4:36:53 PM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("Don't give up your ideals, don't compromise, don't turn to expediency..."Ronald Reagan, 1976)
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To: ShadowDancer
inmates and staff are permitted to smoke outside buildings.

How do inmates escape so they can smoke?

4 posted on 03/02/2008 4:36:54 PM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: ShadowDancer

There’s going to be some REAL cranky prisoners...


5 posted on 03/02/2008 4:38:01 PM PST by Levante
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To: ShadowDancer
NY did that, and quietly passed a law the night before banning wrongful death lawsuits by either inmates or families do to any increase in violence..
6 posted on 03/02/2008 4:47:30 PM PST by xcamel (fairtaxers -- don't debate, Denigrate!)
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To: Levante

yes because prisoners deserve cable tv, comfy chairs, plush pillows, steak at every meal etc. It’s their right!


7 posted on 03/02/2008 4:48:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: ShadowDancer

Another fabulously stupid idea put forth by liberals, we all know how successful and prosperous MI is as a State, now we get to watch their crazy prison population go insane!
Kwame wasn’t enough of a fraud? All of those Muslims bringing sharia law isn’t enough?
JEEZ.. these people are actually more intellectually deficient than the voters in Massachusetts. I never thought that was possible. Hoorah for the MORONS that is.


8 posted on 03/02/2008 4:52:07 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: acapesket

I don’t know, we don’t have gay marriage yet.


9 posted on 03/02/2008 4:55:29 PM PST by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: ShadowDancer
OMG Like tobacco is the worst of their worries.

Wait till one of them wants one and is told no! This silliness has to stop, when are these morons going to address the real issues?

10 posted on 03/02/2008 4:56:28 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Levante
There’s going to be some REAL cranky prisoners...

Yea, and a real increase in prison violence.

They can't keep drugs out of prisons, which are illegal, so why increase their problems by denying prisoners a legal product such as cigarettes?

Its a known fact that prisoners have money accounts so if they want to put an end to drugs and cigarettes, then terminate their accounts.........

The state of Michigan has more problems on their hands than to stop prisoners from smoking.........

11 posted on 03/02/2008 4:56:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: ShadowDancer

What’ll they use for currency?


12 posted on 03/02/2008 5:04:40 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! ALLLLLWAYS!)
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To: ShadowDancer
They could use tobacco privileges as an incentive for good behavior. Just sayin’
13 posted on 03/02/2008 5:07:26 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: ShadowDancer

Soon.. my pet.. soon. Gay marriage wasn’t legislated, the Supreme Court decreed that, we haven’t been allowed to vote on it. The whole deal is actually illegal, just ask Governor “Yes, We Can” Free em all Duval. Gov. Telletubbie is the. ObaMassiah’ mentor.


14 posted on 03/02/2008 5:11:36 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: ShadowDancer

Let’s see, the state is circling the commode with a corrupt Canadian socialist Governor, unemployment remains over 7%, younger and educated people are fleeing in droves, and everywhere you go there’s a foreclosure sign on an abandoned house. But let’s prevent prisoners from smoking, because by all means they need to be healthy so they could inflict more costs onto the state’s medical system when they get older.


15 posted on 03/02/2008 5:11:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Hot Tabasco

“The state of Michigan has more problems on their hands than to stop prisoners from smoking...”

Perhaps they are trying for the small successes since they’ve screwed everything else up.


16 posted on 03/02/2008 5:12:39 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: ShadowDancer

Who cares what they do to convicts? When they’re not being raped they should be suffering all kinds of deprivations. Bastards.


17 posted on 03/02/2008 5:14:36 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ShadowDancer

Good luck to whomever control the riots. Uh, that’s rioting among the guards, who won’t be able to smoke either.


18 posted on 03/02/2008 5:15:41 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: ari-freedom

“yes because prisoners deserve cable tv, comfy chairs, plush pillows, steak at every meal etc. It’s their right!”

You give them that stuff when they behave, and take it away when they screw up.

How else do you control a prisoner for 20, 30... 50 years?


19 posted on 03/02/2008 5:16:45 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: ShadowDancer

Wouldn’t it reduce prison operating costs to let them smoke?


20 posted on 03/02/2008 5:17:12 PM PST by MeanGreen2008
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“Who cares what they do to convicts? When they’re not being raped they should be suffering all kinds of deprivations. Bastards.”

Uh, didn’t Jesus once comment that people who did a deed “in their heart” were just as bad as those who actually did it?

And, if you’re wishing this for the prisoners....??? ??? ???


21 posted on 03/02/2008 5:18:43 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford
And, if you’re wishing this for the prisoners....??? ??? ???

No, just trying to show off my conservative bona fides.

22 posted on 03/02/2008 5:37:51 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
When they’re not being raped they should be suffering all kinds of deprivations

Really?

Like the guy who dove drunk twice, never hit anyone, and got sentenced?

He should be getting raped?

You think so?

How about the guy who bought an ounce of pot?

Rape him too?

Really?

23 posted on 03/02/2008 5:43:42 PM PST by humblegunner (Rivethead™)
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To: ShadowDancer

It’s about damn time. Next they should make them weightroom-free, TV-room-free, pornography-free, etc.


24 posted on 03/02/2008 5:51:16 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: humblegunner
Rape him too?

Bottom line, our prisons aren't filled with just the hardcore violent people and they will have learned their lessons. They deserve incarceration, yes, but they don't deserve the violence that does occur in the prison environment.....

25 posted on 03/02/2008 6:14:13 PM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Our local county jail (avg. 120 inmates) has been smoke free for several years now. Once released, they say they don’t want to come back. Has something to do with freedoms you get on the outside.


26 posted on 03/02/2008 6:42:41 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: ari-freedom

“yes because prisoners deserve cable tv, comfy chairs, plush pillows, steak at every meal etc. It’s their right!”

Sickening, isn’t it? Made much worse because WE have to PAY for it!


27 posted on 03/02/2008 6:42:51 PM PST by Levante
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To: TWohlford

well if they can’t behave without cigs then they haven’t really changed


28 posted on 03/02/2008 6:45:57 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: humblegunner

rape? or is it just pleasurable sex between two consenting adults


29 posted on 03/02/2008 6:49:08 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: ShadowDancer
I wonder how soon people will be in prison “For” smoking cigarettes.
30 posted on 03/02/2008 6:50:08 PM PST by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: acapesket

anything that makes life harder for prisoners is something this conservative supports.
However, if you are NOT a prisoner then cigarettes should NOT be banned.


31 posted on 03/02/2008 6:51:33 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: ari-freedom

huh? Perhaps you mis-understand my biting sarcasm.


32 posted on 03/02/2008 6:58:27 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: humblegunner

See post 22.


33 posted on 03/02/2008 9:28:09 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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“It won’t happen overnight, but we should see healthier inmates long-term ... and that should translate into some health care savings” for taxpayers, Corrections spokesman Russ Marlan said.”

Doesn’t the state collect a tax on all those prison smokes? Raising the tax on prison smokes seems like a better idea than this crap. It makes me think I should write them a letter saying “Thank you too much!”


34 posted on 03/03/2008 6:13:07 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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