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Hoboken SWAT Team: We Were Forced To Go To Hooters
WCBS-TV ^ | 2/29/06 | Jay Dow

Posted on 03/02/2008 6:30:03 PM PST by elkfersupper

Jay Dow HOBOKEN, N.J. (CBS) ― The racy photos of cops cavorting with Hooters waitresses rocked the Hoboken Police Department. Now, officers face disciplinary charges after a scathing report on their conduct was released.

The photos embarrassed and brought unwanted attention to the Hoboken police.

Officers of the disbanded SWAT team and their chief are seen in the photos having a ball during Mardi Gras, and with Hooters waitresses during the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Retiring Hoboken patrolman John Camile told CBS 2 HD he's moving on with a bit of a heavy heart.

"You feel that weight that people are taking everything and putting down the police department," retiring Hoboken cop John Camile told CBS 2 HD.

But for several of his colleagues, who now face disciplinary charges after a specially commissioned report recommended the department take action, this ordeal is far from over.

"All are being held to account for their actions," Hoboken Mayor David Roberts said.

That could be bad news for five officers who are suing the department and SWAT leader, Lt. Angelo Andriani.

The officers claim Andriani intimidated them into attending the outings documented in the photos.

Andriani firmly denies the allegations.

But lawyers for both sides are accusing the city of conducting a flawed internal investigation.

"They have taken this action to shield Hoboken from any civil liability," attorney Louis Zayas said.

Andriani's attorney told CBS 2 HD the officers are being punished due to the mayor's embarrassment and the internal investigation is more of a sham.

"It's like Alice in Wonderland," Charles Sciarra said. "This is all political and not a legitimate investigation. The city is trying to undo the damage that was done when the mayor watched all this happen."

Hoboken Police Chief Carmen Labruno has been noticeably absent during the news conferences regarding this story. And Mayor Roberts won't say if it's because the chief is just shy of news cameras or if he's a focus of this investigation.

Hoboken officials say they'll release names next week.

Mayor Roberts says a state judicial official will oversee the upcoming hearings on the case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; badcopnodonut; copbasher; donutwatch; hooters; leo; oldnews; usualcopbasher
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Just the SWAT team blowing off a little steam.

If any of us do that, they call.........the SWAT team.

1 posted on 03/02/2008 6:30:05 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

IMHO the members of the SWAT team should have been strip searched by the Hooter girls.


2 posted on 03/02/2008 6:32:18 PM PST by stockpirate (Barrack “The name that is not said” Obamma)
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To: elkfersupper

I suppose the PC crowd would have preferred them to go to a Chippendale’s show?

“This is my rifle, this is my gun....”


3 posted on 03/02/2008 6:34:54 PM PST by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon.)
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To: elkfersupper

IMO its generally a good thing when SWAT teams are disbanded. The trip to Hooters isnt a good reason though. Letting the hooters waitresses handle their firearms is.


4 posted on 03/02/2008 6:35:14 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: elkfersupper

>>this ordeal is far from over.

>>”All are being held to account for their actions,”

WTH were their actions that were so egregious that disciplinary action is required? All that text, and the idiot reporter didn’t manage to answer so basic a question?

Sheesh.


5 posted on 03/02/2008 6:35:20 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: elkfersupper

This thread is worthless without . . . . . . . . . .


6 posted on 03/02/2008 6:36:11 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: elkfersupper
Now, officers face disciplinary charges

Break in the wrong house and kill the family dog in front of crying kids, no problem. But have a little fun with some pretty girls during Mardi Gras? Oh, the humanity!

7 posted on 03/02/2008 6:36:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: elkfersupper

So, what's the problem?

8 posted on 03/02/2008 6:36:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: elkfersupper

Wish someone would force me to go to Hooters.


9 posted on 03/02/2008 6:36:53 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: stockpirate

I’m sure they asked for that kind of special attention.

Just too many things here to ever get a straight story: SWAT Team cops, no paragons of virtue, from New Jersey, as corrupt as any place on the planet and in New Orleans - and all on the taxpayers’ dime. If there’s even one clean hand in this...


10 posted on 03/02/2008 6:38:46 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Cicero
So, what's the problem?

I just don't have a problem.

Something about Hooter's girls handling grenade launchers and select-fire weapons appeals to me.

I wish they all would do that.

11 posted on 03/02/2008 6:40:28 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Good grief. What’s the big deal?

Am I missing something here?


12 posted on 03/02/2008 6:40:30 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: elkfersupper
Jay Dow HOBOKEN, N.J. (CBS) ― The racy photos of cops cavorting with Hooters waitresses rocked the Hoboken Police Department. Now, officers face disciplinary charges after a scathing report on their conduct was released.

The photos embarrassed and brought unwanted attention to the Hoboken police.

Facing disciplinary charges is UTTER nonsense! Is the police chief a sissy or something like that? Someone there needs to get a life. The Hoboken Police Department ought to be proud that its men are MEN!

13 posted on 03/02/2008 6:40:31 PM PST by olezip
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To: elkfersupper
"What is the big deal? They were just hanging brain!"

"If that's a crime, then lock me up."

14 posted on 03/02/2008 6:46:52 PM PST by pcottraux (I can't tell the difference between Carl Cameron, Chris Wallace, or Bill McCuddy.)
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To: olezip

“Facing disciplinary charges is UTTER nonsense! “

So its appropriate for police officers to let waitresses handle their automatic weapons? Seems irresponsible to me.

Heck they should all be fired for wasting taxpayer money. They went to New Orleans to work, not flirt with the bimbos at hooters.


15 posted on 03/02/2008 6:46:53 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
Hmmm ... you're in a bank on a beautiful and quiet morning when, all of a sudden .. some bad boys come in and start shooting and taking hostages.

You're one of the hostages, but not before you've been put in a position of submission and uselessness by having your knee shot off.

Bleeding, in a daze ... maybe even crying a little ... don't you just wish there was a sharpshooter out there ...capable and at the ready for a head shot to the mf that keeps yelling out the door and at you?

"Why don't they shoot?' you keep thinking in your mind ... but then you remember .. "Oh yeah ... the SWAT team was disbanded last month"

Just damn! ... eh?

16 posted on 03/02/2008 6:48:09 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Constitution Day
"Am I missing something here?"

Yes, from the picture I would say it's a white, heterosexual, law enforcement officer having fun with alcohol, very attractive women, and firearms. I am hard pressed to think of anything that the left would find more upsetting unless we found out they are paying for part of their own health care and retirement to boot.

17 posted on 03/02/2008 6:48:49 PM PST by hometoroost (...the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo)
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To: Constitution Day
Good grief. What’s the big deal? Am I missing something here?

25 photos at the link.

At least they were apparently coached to keep their manicures clear of the "go" buttons.

SWAT Team Under Scrutiny

18 posted on 03/02/2008 6:52:15 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Yeah, well, it was a tough assignment but someone had to go in there.


19 posted on 03/02/2008 6:53:09 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: knarf
the swat team would wait til all the bullets were spent by the perps, and THEN coming blazing in...

why is this being posted anyway...its from 2006...there's enough to talke about in 2008.

20 posted on 03/02/2008 6:54:40 PM PST by cherry
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To: elkfersupper

These the same, ah, upstanding peace officers who were running ~100mph up I-81 through VA on their way back to NJ?


21 posted on 03/02/2008 6:55:13 PM PST by CGTRWK
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To: hometoroost
Yes, from the picture I would say it's a white, heterosexual, law enforcement officer having fun with alcohol

How did that officer get home? I'm sure he walked, right?
22 posted on 03/02/2008 6:55:53 PM PST by Tailback
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To: elkfersupper

So the hooters babes fondled their glocks.
Big deal


23 posted on 03/02/2008 6:55:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: olezip
hooters...utter...
get it? haha oh dear

24 posted on 03/02/2008 6:57:05 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: mylife
So the hooters babes fondled their glocks. Big deal

It weren't just their Glocks.

See the pictures.

25 posted on 03/02/2008 6:58:55 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: TigersEye

Hooters again lmao


26 posted on 03/02/2008 6:59:37 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: elkfersupper
“So, what’s the problem?
I just don’t have a problem.

Something about Hooter’s girls handling grenade launchers and select-fire weapons appeals to me.

I wish they all would do that.”

You may be on to something here! Want a business partner?

27 posted on 03/02/2008 7:00:15 PM PST by squidward
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To: elkfersupper
> At least they were apparently coached to keep their manicures clear of the "go" buttons.

I dunno... the girl on the left seems to have her finger awfully close to the trigger of that pistol. Certainly isn't "straight ahead and out of the trigger guard" like it oughta be.

Damn pretty girl, though.


28 posted on 03/02/2008 7:00:56 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: hometoroost
the cop that probably killed BOTH his last two wives up in Ohio...Peterson...he's collecting a nice pension of $70thou a year plus medical...and he's in his early 50's..

so yes...I have a problem with tax paid civil servants who let waitresses hold their guns and cavorted around in their uniforms...(the cops)..

they were probably all collecting overtime for their time down there...so YES I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PAYING FOR THIS CRAP.

not to mention that they probably have wives and children at home who actually BELIEVED that daddy was doing something morally good and Christian....

but this is the new moralism...the new Christianity.....do what ever feels relatively good because we all make up our own religions now, don't we...

29 posted on 03/02/2008 7:02:42 PM PST by cherry
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To: Cicero

On the taxpayers’ dime.


30 posted on 03/02/2008 7:02:44 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: elkfersupper

My AR15 is bigger than that AR15


31 posted on 03/02/2008 7:02:57 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: squidward

well if al qaeda could recruit guys who went to strip clubs to smash planes into our buildings, they could perhaps recruit muslim women to act as strippers and entice American LEO’s to give up their weapons and use them against them.


32 posted on 03/02/2008 7:04:32 PM PST by ari-freedom (Thank you Bill.)
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To: olezip
The Hoboken Police Department ought to be proud that its men are MEN!

The Hoboken Police Department should encourage these "men" to obtain gainful employment elsewhere (not in law enforcement).

33 posted on 03/02/2008 7:14:16 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Oh, I see your point now.

Letting the Hooters girls pose with any SWAT weapons was just dumb, dumb, dumb.


34 posted on 03/02/2008 7:19:22 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: driftdiver

Next to the crime that REALLY goes on in NJ , this is nothing..They were fools for letting the girls handle their firearms , that is plain STUPID.But NJ is THE most corrupt place on the planet , it’s a joke!


35 posted on 03/02/2008 7:23:38 PM PST by sonic109
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To: elkfersupper; Cicero

Poor guy looks traumatized. Traumatized!

36 posted on 03/02/2008 7:24:41 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Constitution Day
Good grief. What’s the big deal?

Am I missing something here?

God forbid police officers act like normal human beings...

At least they weren't prancing along in some degenerate parade.

37 posted on 03/02/2008 7:25:39 PM PST by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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To: lightman
I suppose the PC crowd would have preferred them to go to a Chippendale’s show?

No, I think the majority of the people expect cops to act like grown men instead of street punks.

38 posted on 03/02/2008 7:33:06 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: dayglored

If nothing else, these photos should be submitted for the next Stacked and Packed Calendar....


39 posted on 03/02/2008 7:39:13 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: elkfersupper

What a joke.. these guys are away from their wives for several weeks.. the taxpayers (and their wives) should be happy that they were just caught at Hooter’s, rather than somewhere else. Seems like harmless fun to me.


40 posted on 03/02/2008 8:05:36 PM PST by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: org.whodat

“No, I think the majority of the people expect cops to act like grown men instead of street punks.”

‘Street punks’ seems a bit strong. They weren’t hurting anybody. ‘Frat boys’, perhaps.


41 posted on 03/02/2008 8:06:53 PM PST by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: elkfersupper

scandalous!!!...not.


42 posted on 03/02/2008 8:13:39 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Don't think I can vote for you John, I'm feelin' like a maverick.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

That’s because other police will back them up if they break into the wrong house. Nobody who has half a brain will put their own career on the line to defend SWAT members f#cking around at a Hooters.


43 posted on 03/02/2008 8:22:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: driftdiver

“So its appropriate for police officers to let waitresses handle their automatic weapons? Seems irresponsible to me.”

If they are unloaded and just done for a pose, whats the big deal? I’ve seen similar poses of guys in Iraq who got visits from some nice-looking women who went to ‘lift spirits’ in Iraq. Any guy in uniform would love to tell a woman “Wanna handle my weapon?”

“Heck they should all be fired for wasting taxpayer money. They went to New Orleans to work, not flirt with the bimbos at hooters.”

So they work 24/7 with no break, or do they get some ‘guy time’ off like most humans do? If there was junket expense involved, maybe an issue for city of hoboken, but otherwise not. Unless the SWAT team contract forbids them to enjoy flirtations with waitresses and/or they doing this on duty time, this is just city hall posturing and preening.


44 posted on 03/02/2008 8:36:34 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: knarf
Hmmm ... you’re in a bank on a beautiful and quiet morning when, all of a sudden .. some bad boys come in and start shooting and taking hostages.

You’re one of the hostages, but not before you’ve been put in a position of submission and uselessness by having your knee shot off.

Bleeding, in a daze ... maybe even crying a little ... don’t you just wish there was a sharpshooter out there ...capable and at the ready for a head shot to the mf that keeps yelling out the door and at you?

“Why don’t they shoot, instead of sending in pizza & sodas?’ you keep thinking in your mind ... but then, 17 hours of “standoff” later, you remember .. “Oh yeah ... it’s the SWAT-Team, not Marshall Dillon, out there.

45 posted on 03/02/2008 8:39:14 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: Cicero

There’s obviously something fishy going on here. They’re not telling us the whole story. Hooters DOESN”T SERVE DOUGHNUTS!


46 posted on 03/02/2008 8:46:37 PM PST by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: nj26; eldoradude; olezip
What a joke.. these guys are away from their wives for several weeks.. the taxpayers (and their wives) should be happy that they were just caught at Hooter’s, rather than somewhere else.

I didn't know they had recently changed the wedding vows.

I, _________, do take thee, _________, ... cleaving unto thee, and forsaking all others, until death or 30 days away from home alone, do us part.

Would any of you macho men posting on here be so happy, if it were their wives who were caught cavorting with male strippers while their hubbies were on duty away from town?

How is this morally different than Bill not keeping it zipped while on the public dime?

47 posted on 03/02/2008 8:53:52 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: elkfersupper
The officers claim Andriani intimidated them into attending the outings documented in the photos.

Now, if I were "forced" to attend an outing, I would just sit there and enjoy the meal. The issue is: these guys turned it into an embarrassment. Would there have been a big story if the headlines read "SWAT Team eats Hot Wings at Hooters, waitresses now wearing black shorts"?

48 posted on 03/02/2008 10:05:40 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: elkfersupper

Something about Hooter's girls handling grenade launchers and select-fire weapons appeals to me.

Where did you see a grenade launcher?

49 posted on 03/02/2008 10:08:15 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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bfl


50 posted on 03/02/2008 11:18:54 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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