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Police: Man In Suit Kills 1, Shoots 4 Others In WPB Wendy's
WPBF ^ | 3 MARCH 2008 | WPBF

Posted on 03/03/2008 12:51:37 PM PST by radar101

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Witnesses said a man in a business suit opened fire Monday in a Wendy's restaurant in West Palm Beach, killing one person and injuring at least four others before killing himself, WPBF News 25 reported.

The shooter, who is described by witnesses as a tall man wearing a baseball cap and a business suit, reportedly walked out of the bathroom of the Wendy's at Cherry Road and Military Trail around 12:18 p.m. Monday and shot a middle-aged white man standing by the railing near the front counter, killing him, Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office spokesman Paul Miller said.

"He [the shooter] just came out of the bathroom, went behind the railing, and he had one victim unfortunately facing him, and he fired almost point-blank at that individual who is deceased in the restaurant," Miller said.

Miller told WPBF that the shooter then proceeded to "move from left to right," firing what is believed to be a 9-mm pistol at several other patrons inside the restaurant and hitting at least four others.

Miller said that the four injured victims were taken to local hospitals for treatment. Miller told WPBF that three of the survivors were in critical condition and two others had minor injuries, including one person who was not shot but was injured running away.

Witnesses told WPBF that all of the victims in the incident were customers. A statement from the Wendy's corporate office confirmed that no employees were hurt in the shooting.

Miller said that investigators are searching for other witnesses who were inside the restaurant at the time of the shooting who ran away. Miller told WPBF that several people fled the scene, some leaving their cars still running in the parking lot and drive-through.

Several lanes of Military Trail at Belvedere Road were closed while police investigated the scene.

A statement from the Wendy's corporate office detailed the company's condolences.

"This is a terrible and sad day for our restaurant and this community… because this is a senseless tragedy. Our deepest thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families," the statement read.

A Wendy's spokesperson said that the restaurant is cooperating with the investigation and that the store's security cameras have been turned over to investigators.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; shooting; wendys; westpalmbeach
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1 posted on 03/03/2008 12:51:38 PM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

Contract killing?


2 posted on 03/03/2008 12:53:20 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: radar101

Here’s what’s needed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmTvAZvJ5Mc


3 posted on 03/03/2008 12:53:21 PM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

The earlier thread said an off duty female police officer was in the Wendy’s at the time.


4 posted on 03/03/2008 12:55:19 PM PST by ASA Vet
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To: radar101
Man In Suit Kills 1, Shoots 4 Others

Ban suits.

5 posted on 03/03/2008 12:55:19 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Racial code language?)
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To: Bosco

Get real.......


6 posted on 03/03/2008 12:56:39 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Charles Henrickson
Ban suits.

And baseball caps! Don't forget that!

7 posted on 03/03/2008 12:56:50 PM PST by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: radar101
Momentarily I thought of Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
8 posted on 03/03/2008 12:59:52 PM PST by ReveBM
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To: Bosco

No, it was Mr. Smith from the Matrix.


9 posted on 03/03/2008 12:59:59 PM PST by job
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To: radar101

What’s the significance of “white man.”? The others?


10 posted on 03/03/2008 1:00:04 PM PST by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: radar101

That is cool...


11 posted on 03/03/2008 1:00:26 PM PST by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: radar101

“Witnesses said a man in a business suit opened fire...”

That’s it! No more suits!

Business casual is mandatory!


12 posted on 03/03/2008 1:03:18 PM PST by ryan71
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To: CarryingOn

I am sitting here and wondering what would have happened had I been in that Wendy’s today with my trusty
licensed to carry 357/38 concealed carry under my suit coat — Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm just wondering.


13 posted on 03/03/2008 1:05:13 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: ryan71

If business suits are outlawed, only outlaws will have business suits.


14 posted on 03/03/2008 1:08:47 PM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Mr. Wright
I am sitting here and wondering what would have happened had I been in that Wendy’s today with my trusty licensed to carry 357/38 concealed carry under my suit coat — Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm just wondering.

It probably wouldn't have prevented the folks from getting shot, and you may not have had a clear shot in any case.

15 posted on 03/03/2008 1:09:08 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Mr. Wright

Just curious, why do you carry?


16 posted on 03/03/2008 1:09:53 PM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: radar101
See also At Least 5 Shot, 2 Dead At West Palm Beach Wendy's, an earlier report from WPBF.
17 posted on 03/03/2008 1:10:04 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Rennes Templar

My permit was issued for “personal protection”.


18 posted on 03/03/2008 1:11:21 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: CarryingOn
The shooter, who is described by witnesses as a tall man wearing a baseball cap and a business suit, . . . shot a middle-aged white man. . . .

Funny, this news story describes the shooter as "tall," a "man," and wearing "a baseball cap" and a "suit." But there seems to be some part of a normal description missing. Hmmm. . . .

Well, at least they identify the victim as "a middle-aged white man." Wonder why they have nothing on age or race on the shooter?

Wait! I just came across more information on the shooter from one of the witnesses: "the shooter, who he said was a tall black man wearing a business suit. . . ." Now why couldn't they include that in this news story?

19 posted on 03/03/2008 1:12:56 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Hate crime?)
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To: r9etb

Excellent point — but something we will never know.
Of course, he would have had the first draw.


20 posted on 03/03/2008 1:13:05 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: Charles Henrickson

Because of this, the main stream media likes to report on whites shooting blacks, but does not seem to think it is important to identify the race, when a black shoots a white or a number of whites.


21 posted on 03/03/2008 1:14:45 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: Rennes Templar; EGPWS
Just curious, why do you carry?

I carry because I can!

22 posted on 03/03/2008 1:15:45 PM PST by trussell
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To: Mr. Wright
Excellent point — but something we will never know.

OTOH, I remember the shooting at the Luby's cafeteria several years ago. There was a lady who normally carried, but for some reason didn't that day -- reached into her purse and remembered that her pistol was at home. She had a clear field of fire, plenty of time, and probably could have reduced the death toll from the 20 or so.

23 posted on 03/03/2008 1:16:21 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Mr. Wright

“I am sitting here and wondering what would have happened had I been in that Wendy’s today with my trusty licensed to carry 357/38 concealed carry under my suit coat — “

If you had been victim #1— not much.


24 posted on 03/03/2008 1:32:00 PM PST by agooga (In memory of my father in law, William R. Knill- veteran of two wars - and a helluva nice guy. RIP)
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To: r9etb

Her name is Suzanne Gratia Hupp.


25 posted on 03/03/2008 1:33:04 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Charles Henrickson

hate crime?


26 posted on 03/03/2008 1:38:19 PM PST by martinidon
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To: agooga
Depends on variables including, but not limited to: type of weapon (revolver vs semi-auto) intended target selection, time consumed to draw; accuracy of the aim; etc.
27 posted on 03/03/2008 1:40:02 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: radar101

Vegetarian rage? Heck, there are Eco-Terrorist out in force in Seattle. Maybe the PITA SWAT team hits Wendy’s. This does not pass the smell test.


28 posted on 03/03/2008 1:42:46 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: martinidon
When is the last time you saw a nationally-reported
crime (black on white) where it was referred to,
or officially declared, a “hate crime”. Remember what
Jesse said, “Minorities are incapabable of racism because they have no power”
29 posted on 03/03/2008 1:44:01 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: Mr. Wright
Remember what Jesse said, “Minorities are incapabable of racism because they have no power”

I'd say a 9-mm pistol is "power."

30 posted on 03/03/2008 1:48:49 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: Rennes Templar

I can answer only for myself: I carry a gun because I’m too young to die - and too old to take an ass kickin’.


31 posted on 03/03/2008 1:52:13 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Rennes Templar
Just curious, why do you carry?

Lots of people carry. I do. Because there's lots of bad people out there.

32 posted on 03/03/2008 1:54:11 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: radar101

Falling Down?


33 posted on 03/03/2008 1:57:38 PM PST by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Because it’s our God given Right to!


34 posted on 03/03/2008 1:58:49 PM PST by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: MacDorcha; radar101

“Falling Down?”


A movie that could have been really good.

I appears that about half way into it, they realized what they were doing (possibly making a cult classic for middle America) and they switched to politically correct mode, redirecting the film enough to destroy it.


35 posted on 03/03/2008 2:05:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Ronald W. Reagan and William F. Buckley Jr., both were U.S. Army veterans.)
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To: Rennes Templar
Just curious, why do you carry?

Because a Cop is too heavy and keep whining for dounts every half hour.

36 posted on 03/03/2008 2:06:52 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mr. Wright

I’m wondering. Will the blacks still be able to say that they have no power after B.O. is president?


37 posted on 03/03/2008 2:07:26 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Rennes Templar

Business suit? How do they know it was a business suit?


38 posted on 03/03/2008 2:12:07 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: radar101

This is really sad, but I’ve complained here locally at Wendy’s many times.........beans don’t belong in chili!.......


39 posted on 03/03/2008 2:14:51 PM PST by Hardshell
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To: MacDorcha

” . . . the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed”


40 posted on 03/03/2008 2:15:57 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: radar101

Prozac user or abuser? Swift justice here for the perp; but none, whatsoever for the innocent who were targeted.


41 posted on 03/03/2008 2:28:42 PM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: ASA Vet
The earlier thread said an off duty female police officer was in the Wendy’s at the time.

I find that interesting too. Police officers always conceal carry when on and off duty where they are allowed and have a backup (concealed) sidearm when in uniform.

42 posted on 03/03/2008 2:32:49 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagon)
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To: BerryDingle
But........off duty police officers do not always have their guns on them.
43 posted on 03/03/2008 2:34:31 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Charles Henrickson

This the guy?

44 posted on 03/03/2008 2:41:16 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Bosco

Did this Wendy’s have a “No Firearms” sign in the window/at the entrace? Was this a gun-free zone?


45 posted on 03/03/2008 2:46:39 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: ryan71
Business casual is mandatory!

Leisure suits! That's the ticket.

When was the last time it's been reported that a person in a leisure suit infamously made the news?

46 posted on 03/03/2008 2:47:18 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: trussell
I carry because I can!

I'll stick to "none of your d@#n business". ; )

47 posted on 03/03/2008 2:51:57 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Rennes Templar
Just curious, why do you carry?

Because when seconds count, police are only minutes away.

You live in Montana and you don't carry?

48 posted on 03/03/2008 2:53:31 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: r9etb

"There was a lady who normally carried, but for some reason didn't that day -- reached into her purse and remembered that her pistol was at home."

Actually she had left it in her car, that was parked outside. Both her parents, whith whom she was eating, were killed.

From Wikipedia

" During the shooting, he approached Suzanna Gratia Hupp and her parents. Hupp had actually brought a handgun to the Luby's Cafeteria that day, but had left it in her vehicle due to the laws in force at the time, forbidding citizens from carrying firearms. According to her later testimony in favor of Missouri's HB-1720 bill[1] and in general [2][3], after she realized that her firearm was not in her purse, but "a hundred feet away in [her] car", her father charged at Hennard in an attempt to subdue him, only to be gunned down; a short time later, her mother was also shot and killed. (Hupp later expressed regret for abiding by the law in question by leaving her firearm in her car, rather than keeping it on her person[4].)"

49 posted on 03/03/2008 2:59:39 PM PST by Mila
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To: BerryDingle
This thread might explain it.
50 posted on 03/03/2008 3:31:02 PM PST by ASA Vet
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