Posted on 03/03/2008 3:45:43 PM PST by Golden Gate
There are conservatives who are describing this GOP Primary Election of 2008 as "the worst ever".
Later we can talk about what went wrong. But for the March 4th Primary states, they have a choice of:
Texas GOP Conservatives: Do NOT waste your vote by voting for Democrats.
·And no one should be voting for `corruption personified'!· GOP Conservatives, there is conservative work to be done in the Republican Primary!
Can someone please confirm that Duncan Hunter is on the ballot in Texas and Rhode Island.
Can Democrats in Texas `cross over' and vote in the GOP Primary? If so, Texas Conservative Democrats and Union members should `cross over' and Vote for conservative California Congressman Duncan Hunter!
Please confirm that Fred Thompson is on the ballot in Ohio (& TX).
Conservatives in Vermont should consider voting for Huck.
He does NOT yet have the necessary delegate count that he needs to clinch the nomination. There is still time to derail this disaster already waiting to happen.
9 posted on 02/29/2008 3:33:07 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
(Watch Sean, Rush, Laura, Mark, Michelle et.al. rationalize 1 by 1 & enter the RINO/McCain column)
From an article: "Reality is, only about 35 percent of Republicans support John McCain. The other 65 percent who voted against McCain can never be accurately accused of supporting McCain, only opposing the greater opposition.
But more than 35 percent will indeed vote for McCain come November. Not because they have some new found love for John McCain or his many shortcomings, but because...
Conservatives Have Stepped In It Again!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1977024/posts
Personally, I still want to see brokered conventions, Dem & GOP.
The Best 2 Reasons to Vote McCain = [ Or *NOT* = DoughtyOne Posts & replies, begin #10 ]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973203/posts
Hold your nose once more and Vote McC...?? No.
Re-draft Duncan Hunter into the Presidential Race = (With all of the written and video obituaries which have found their way onto internet regarding the recent demise of Congressman Duncan Hunter's presidential campaign, we at NWCL would like to offer this gem. There are other voices out there who believe it is still not too late).
Re-draft Duncan Hunter into the Presidential Race = http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1958247/posts
(News Which Cannot Lose ^ | 1/22/08 | Alex Madison)
Rep. Duncan Hunter Drops Presidential Bid "Today we end this campaign" Duncan Hunter = Saturday, January 19, 2008
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956457/posts
Duncan Hunter FR Working Group: Roll Call = Are You DH1? "It's DUNCAN Time! (end 'what' campaign?) <<= Bump this Thread!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1958233/posts
Did you know? that Duncan Hunter was elected to Congress in 1980 as a part of the Reagan revolution? (more...)
Conservatives - Get Duncan Hunter elected!
FR needs an Election / Campaign Central
March 4 Primaries - Dems & GOP: Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont / (per The Green Papers)
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Anyone know if Democratic Presidential write-in candidates are allowed in the other three States (Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont)?
I voted for Hunter in CT.
Yeh - go Duncan Hunter - wooo hooo
"Of COURSE they'll vote Republican, where ELSE are they going to go?"
Fred is on the ballot in Texas.
(I have a number of employees that live there -— Kermit, TX anyone?)
I voted for Hunter in Michigan and will write him in in November.
~ daydreams ~
Well, it’s your primary, but I hope you select a suitable nominee for Nov. Not likely that the Dems will.
~ daydreams ~ - In this Primary 08, it seems like a lot of conservative leaders, ray-dee-oh & teevee hosts, and activists were daydreaming their way through ‘07 & the start of the primaries 08. Hit the ground running? Not this time.
And, was there some conservative weakness or betrayal involved? But for now, with what is left with the primaries, what can be done to get brokered conventions, in BOTH parties?
YEAH!!!!!
All the previously announced candidates are on the Texas ballot. I expect Duncan Hunter will get several hundred votes statewide.
After super tuesday I read that he had picked up some 40,000 votes since dropping out.
To vote tomorrow, each person just needs to go to their correct precinct, and have a voter registration card or a drivers license. There have already been a lot of cross-over voters - both directions. Duncan and Fred are both still on the ballot, as well as ‘uncommitted’. I voted for Duncan.
Several good replies, & I like this tagline.
Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter”I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back”)
If that's true, it's some sort of a political gesture which doesn't really register. I've never seen a vote total for him in the later races reported in either print or television.
I don't know what voting for him would do at this point, anyway. McCain will probably clinch the nomination tomorrow.
I voted early in the Texas primary and voted for Duncan Hunter. Some of the talk show hosts were reminded everyone that he was on the ballot.
I’m not positive McCain can clinch tomorrow. The MSM delegate counts count all delegates and still are too high. He needs 317 pledged delegates to ice it no matter how he screws up in the next 6 months. All 88 Ohio delegates are unpledged. 137 pledged are available in Texas. RI and VT have 17 each.
Duncan Hunter endorsed Mike Huckabee, and might want you to vote for Huckabee.
Hunter and Minuteman Gilchrist accompanied Mike Huckabee to our southern border, just a couple of days ago. Maybe they are grooming him to be POTUS.
Okay, maybe he won’t clinch it tomorrow, but it’s like leading in the Super Bowl 52-10 with five minutes left to go.
It’s like Don Meredith singing on Monday Night Football, “Turn out the lights, the party’s over...”
I early voted for Duncan in Texas. I kind of wish I had gone Huckabee just to send a stronger message of McCain rejection.
He has to take 52% of the remaining pledged delegates to clinch an assured first round win. The score is closer than you think.
I voted for Duncan Hunter in TN before he dropped out...
definitely no regrets...
:)
It’s 1047 - 247 right now.
I don’t call that close. McCain needs 144 more delegates to clinch.
He can do it tomorrow.
I don’t know where the author gets his information, but it’s been a while since McCain was at only 30% of republicans.
In Virginia, where a good number of republicans actually voted in the democratic primary, and virtually nobody crossed to the republican party, McCain won 50% of the vote in a 3-man race.
Rasmussen poll of Republicans has McCain at over 50%.
McCain’s favorable rating among republicans is at 83% (or is it 75%? I can’t remember all these numbers in my head).
By and large, Republicans are NOT upset with their nominee. Heck, at this point I don’t think even a majority of CONSERVATIVE Republicans are opposed to McCain.
The Ohio Delegates are not legally required to vote for their candidate. But they ARE assigned to their candidates, which means the people who will go to the convention are the people who the CANDIDATES have chosen as their most loyal supporters.
It would be like sending McCain’s wife to the convention as “unpledged”. She might be legally allowed to vote for someone else, but the only way you are getting her to vote for someone else is if McCain has actually dropped out of the race.
It is not really useful to divide candidates based on “pledged” and “unpledged”. The important distinction is whether the delegates are committed supporters of the candidate, or truly free agents.
Democrats can vote for Republicans in the primary see below.
*If you are a registered voter in the state of Texas, you will simply choose your party and vote in that party’s primary. To explain, we do not register by party in Texas. One becomes “affiliated” with a party by voting in a party’s primary and the affiliation lasts for that primary year. As an example, if a voter voted in the March 2006 primary or April 2006 runoff primary, the voter affiliated with that party for the rest of that year, but on December 31, 2006 the affiliation expired. The affiliation means that the person may not vote in another party’s primary or participate in another party’s convention or sign an independent candidate’s petition for place on the ballot if the independent candidate’s position appears on the primary ballot. Note that in the general election in November, a voter may vote for whomever he/she wishes, regardless of how or whether he/she voted in the primary or runoff primary election, since all candidates are on the same ballot.
I am counting pledged and not the ones that could see reason through a McCain explosion in the next six months. That’s a long time for McCain to remain sane.
I don’t know if McCain can stay sane that long or not. He may be on Prozac or something, because he hasn’t had that Howard Dean moment yet.
Regardless, unless he dies, he gets the nomination. This is not a horserace, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see Huckabee withdraw later this week.
No write-ins are allowed in Texas primaries. There can be an official write-in candidate, if certified, in a general election. Such a candidate must qualify within 45 days of the general election. Any stray write-in in TX is ignored and off limits under state law. The system works to perpetuate only the two popular established parties.
The affiliation is for two years, not one year.
I looked at the Ohio ballots and Fred is still there.
John McCain, also a good man, did do well; has done well; and is going to be our candidate. Any party’s candidate has to appeal to a large cross-section of that party and not just only to a limited sector.
John McCain has appealed to a large cross-section; Duncan Hunter did not, partly due to lack of name recognition and funding.
We are now in a national race that is going to have huge ramifications.
This includes the war on terrorism, maintaining our national security in the midst of an extremely dangerous world (i.e., our own lives and that of our families), and, not least, the fate of millions of unborn children - correct.
If Obama, especially, becomes President, the deaths of millions of unborn children is going to be not only assured, but encouraged. And will never see an end to Roe.
So may we all stop being fixated in Buddhist-like contemplation of our own navels and get on with doing our part in defending this country and the lives of, millions of the Lord’s children...We were put on the Lord’s beautiful Earth for a good reason, a very good reason.
Well-observed (post #24).
If there is ANY way of salvaging this election, I’m game.
Thank you, Mountain Top. You’re either the only grownup here or the others have been smoking Chinese parsley again.
>> If Obama, especially, becomes President, the deaths of millions of unborn children is going to be not only assured, but encouraged. And will never see an end to Roe.
So may we all stop being fixated in Buddhist-like contemplation of our own navels and get on with doing our part in defending this country and the lives of, millions of the Lord’s children<<
The trouble is that McCain’s amnesty, if he succeeds, would mean tens of millions of new Dem votes in the future, which would also mean abortion forever, socialism forever, Dems in control of all 3 branches forever. So I could vote for McCain in November and hope for the best, but I hope McCain will convince us before November that he really will not sell us out like he tried to do last year.
Yes, Cornyn is backing him now. But has McCain changed his stripes?
Make your vote count....VOTE HUCKABEE!.......derail McCain!
We'd better quit playing these sophomoric games with this election and get serious about a candidate or else we will suffer the consequences.
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Nor McCain's.
Both of these men are adventurers, and fundamentally unaccountable to anyone but their audience, and we don't know who "they" are.
I’ve washed my hands of what was once my Republican Party. Never again.
>>Never forget McCain not only pushed the amnesty bill, he refused to allow exclusions for the worst of the lot.<<
Right. And posters are claiming that McCain is better on immigration than McCain, but while Hillary and Obama voted for amnesty last year, they were not pushing like McCain was. Maybe McCain has improved on immigration, but if so, he needs to make that clear.
And while McCain is more pro-life in the short run than the Dems, the effect of amnesty would be tens of millions of new Dem voters, which would allow leftist control of all 3 branches.
I love Hunter, but Hunter has endorsed Mike Huckabee!!
Make your vote count....VOTE HUCKABEE!.......derail McCain!
=> Re: mtntop3 - #32; & others... (Wanting John McC as the nominee.. & just fer'get about the others..)
Very nice summary, but it could just as well have come from McC HQ.
...pipe dreams? The Democrats are masters in "pipe dreams". But why is the GOP getting into "pipe dreams"?
John McCain is one of the GOP's biggest "pipe dreams" of Primary 2008.
I think that there is more to it, than just that the highly recommended conservative candidate `didn't do well in the primaries'.
Was conservative Rep. Duncan Hunter a minor leaguer, and did he make mistakes? Did he run a pitiful campaign? Or was he ignored and abandoned, and even betrayed by some of the major conservative radio / TV hosts?
One of the common themes is that it was the liberal media and the Democrats who picked the GOP's candidate. (Rush says it was the NY tymes.) Is that true and the full story? Or, is that just the `cover story'?
I did Not follow the conservative media moment by moment. I'm guess'in Duncan Hunter had some time on shows. But I have a distinct impression that there was an ~embargo~ / a silence about using the name Duncan Hunter on the air. At a vital time before Iowa / NH, I think the ~conservative~ `hosts' had their mind made up, it wasn't going to be Hunter. When the names of the GOP / conservative candidates were being listed, either they skipped Hunter's name; or when his name was mentioned, it was quickly stated / mumbled ... `good conservative' / but he can't win'.
If the conservative hosts had something against Hunter, they should have clearly stated "The (very) conservative California Congressman Duncan Hunter" - this is who he is and what he stands for, and summarized his voting record. If the conservative media hosts did not like Hunter, they should have clearly stated their observations and opinions. Ignoring the person and accomplishments of Duncan Hunter just before Iowa / NH, or just mumbling ~he can't win~, -that's betrayal, and Hunter deserved better than that.
Conservative media hosts ignoring / betraying a conservative candidate and then suddenly coming ALIVE for the McCain candidate who they said had betrayed conservatives over the years.
It is my impression that in the fall and winter when McCain made his comeback, that the Conservative reaction was ranging from indifference to *bitterness toward McCain*. Why the sudden turn-around? Election success? Ignore and betray the loyal conservative candidates, and of course McC or Mitt was going to win. Is McCain the GOP's best choice, or a confused and panicked compromise choice?
I'm a Dem, so it is your primary. But looking forward to Nov, I'm very interested (so it's kinda ~our~ primary...)
And now it is Mar 4th, I don't necessarily insist that Duncan has to be the nominee. But I do think conservatives, and the rest of the GOP should want to have the time to make the best decision at the convention.
McCain does NOT need final approval today, or this spring. If McCain is so good, he can wait until the convention this summer. Either he will age like fine wine, and everyone will embrace him at the convention with confidence. Or he will come apart and fizzle between now and then. Let's see which it is, before he gets the nomination. (Not as a nominee) Let's give Candidate John McCain SIX FULL MONTHS to truly disappoint conservatives (~one~ more time / ~one~ for the road!). In the heat of the summer, you don't want a convention arena full of GOP delegates suffering from buyer's remorse.
People will vote for who they want, but is McCain really the best one, and will he ~fly~ in November?
#34 = If there is ANY way of salvaging this election, I’m game. - by Terriergal
- - re: McC
He does NOT yet have the necessary delegate count that he needs to clinch the nomination. There is still time to derail this disaster already waiting to happen.
9 posted on 02/29/2008 3:33:07 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
(Watch Sean, Rush, Laura, Mark, Michelle et.al. rationalize 1 by 1 & enter the RINO/McCain column)
Hold your nose once more and Vote McCain...?? No.
Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter ”I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back”)
Make your vote count....VOTE HUCKABEE!.......derail McCain!
I hear ya and sympathize. I wish there was something more pragmatic that could be done though.
39 - sophomoric games...
Doesn’t that account for McCain’s `success’?
It’s too late for 2008. Conservatives need to regroup for 2012 if America lasts that long. I have my doubts.
McCain does NOT need final approval Today, or this spring. If he is so good, he can wait until the convention this summer. ...more
Sorry if any of the information was incorrect. I simply copied it from the following link: http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/voter/primary.shtml
I said FR needed an Election / Campaign Central. THANKS to those who posted some of the technical / election info.
And thanks for all posts.
#46 = It’s too late for 2008...
It sounds like the Democrat’s delegates are not legally bound to vote for `their’ candidate on the first ballot at the convention.
What about the GOP? Are the GOP delegates legally committed to their candidate? it ain’t over till it’s over.
# 25 gives an answer about Ohio: GOP delegates are assigned to a candidate, but not legally required to vote for the candidate.
SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.) => See # 43
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