Skip to comments.Obama; No Gun Shops Within Five Miles of Schools; Porn Shops Okay
Posted on 03/03/2008 4:55:12 PM PST by JRochelle
I'm going to enjoy writing about a general election campaign against Barack Obama.
As Corner contributor Dave Kopel and David Bernstein note, Barack Obama proposed a few years ago a federal law against licensed firearms dealers operating within five miles of a school or park. As Kopel notes, "Every town I've ever visited which has more than a few dozen inhabitants has either a school or a park. Hypothesizing that the ban would apply to city parks (e.g., Central Park in New York City) but not to National Parks, pick a geographical region, and describe where a licensed firearms dealer could operate. Or pick a geographic point (e.g, Houston)and identify how far a peson would have to drive in order to get to the closest point where a gun store could legally be located. Extra credit for illustrative maps."
As the commenters noted, this would effectively ban gun shops from most of the country, and just about every city.
However, Obama appears to find another kind of establishment to be perfectly fine operating near your children's school:
Obama was also the sole present vote on a bill that easily passed the Senate that would require teaching respect for others in schools. He also voted present on a measure to prohibit sex-related shops from opening near schools or places of worship, which ultimately did not pass the Senate.
In both of those cases, his campaign said, he was trying to avoid mandates on local authorities.
The bill did not get the required three-fifths majority, so it did not in fact pass. (Mr. Obama voted present on the measure.)
Why on God's green earth does Barack Obama object to mandates on local authorities for porn shops but not for gun stores? Or conversely, why does he feel it's necessary to keep gun stores five miles from a school, but no limit on porn shops?
No gun shops within 5 miles of schools should be nearly impossible. Guess we better outlaw schools.
But, but, it’s for the chiiiiiillllldrrrrennnnn!
My kids would vote with you on that! Ah, but they can’t vote. They were born in this country.
With the 5 mile ban, only students who can drive will be a threat.
Kids who bring guns to school didn’t pick them up on the way to class.
One would think that a Harvard grad would know that.
>> I am starting to think that defeating this bozo will be a piece of cake!
I like to put it like this: if McCain can’t figure out how to beat Obama, then he’s not competent enough to be Chief Executive.
Obama’s bill shows not so much that he’s anti-gun, but that he lacks seriousness. There are lots and lots of anti-gun wingnuts in Congress, but they don’t propose laws like this. They know that such a proposal would be silly and would be defeated as such. Though anti-gun, they are serious about what they want and don’t want to be seen as frivolous, silly people. Obama either doesn’t care about how he looks or he doesn’t really care about the issue; or he cares but doesn’t know any better. In either case, this shows that he lacks Presidential timber.
Don’t you have to be 21 to buy a handgun in most states? What exactly is this law supposed to accomplish?
EVER ASK A CARTOGRAPHER TO MAP 1/2 MILE FROM SCHOOLS AND PARKS FOR THE MEGAN'S LIST BAD-BOYS...
THIS WILL NOT WORK.
The ol Babtist Church kill the liquor store ploy x 25
The Babtist distance is 1,000feet. Hussein made it 25 times as bad
I live in a rural area and I can think of several gun shops within 5 miles of the nearest school.
Indeed. Can you go five miles anywhere, expect way out in the sticks, and not find a school?
A 5 mile exclusion zone covers 78.54 miles.
Hussein wants to make it 697 times as bad.
“As the commenters noted, this would effectively ban gun shops from most of the country, and just about every city.”
This was one of the concepts behind the democrat version of the Gun Free School Zones. This act, ultimately declared unconstitutional, banned firearms anywhere within a 1/4 mile of a school. Take you typical town. Plot the schools. Draw a 1/4 mile radius around each one. In effect, firearms possession was made a felony in large areas.
To compound the problem, the Clinton deputy attorney general wrote an opinion that the term ‘school’ included day care centers and homeschoolers. So if someone baby sat or home schooled, then draw more 1/4 mile circles. What made this so bad was there is no way for one to know if someone a couple of blocks over operated a day care in their home or home schooled. You could be a felon and not even be aware of it. In effect, your choice was to get rid of your guns or face felony charges.
You might also consider exactly how you would plan a hunting trip across state knowing you had to plot each school and gun free school zone and determine a path around each.
Campaign hard for conservatives, because stopping this kind of nonsense is going to take more than keeping Obama out of the White House. The turn the GOP is taking will leave us without anyone in Washington to fight gun grabbing policies.
My shop is about 500 feet from our town’s school.
Hey, Obama knows he ain't got a prayer with us gun owners... so he's going for the Lib's true base, the underage girl rapists, child stalking perverts and North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) votes!
pie r square
Obama will be much easier to beat than Hillary, IMO. The ONLY reason he’s done so well against Hillary is because they’re not really throwing blows like McCain will do to the winner of the RAT primary. I’m pretty confident that McCain will destroy Obamanation when/IF it comes down to a race between the two of them!
What delivery companies accept firearms to deliver? I don’t have my CCW and I can’t transport rifles without it. I’m just thinking about getting something at Walmart and having it sent here.
Keeping porn shops close just makes sex education easier.
It’s a cost cutting measure.
What does any gun control law hope to accomplish?
None of tbis is any of Congress’ business.
I know of one that is right across the street from a middle school.
Yep all the gun shops I go to would be gone.
My nephew still doesn’t believe that we had a shooting team in high school. Heck, pickup trucks with a full gun rack in the rear window wasn’t uncommon out in the parking lot.
Not sure what Obama is, other than a part-time Senator cashing full-time pay checks, but he's no Profile in Courage, that's for sure.
I hope someone is combing through every last detail of anything this leftist twit has every done or said in public life. There must be soooo much material out there if only we can find it. I’ll bet that if any journalists actually bothered to do research they would find out so much that would wreck his chances with a majority of Americans.
btw, someone should thorougly examine his years from law school to the time he first ran for the IL legislature. There are 10+ years of which we know almost nothing except that he was a leftist “community organizer” in the Saul Alinsky tradition — surely it is most likely that there are loads of embarrassing statements, actions, etc. that will doom this candidacy. I think of similar people I knew in college, such as one who went on to be a community organizer with the leftists at ACORN, and I know that Obama has spent much of his adult life saying and doing things that would arouse strong distrust and yes contempt from a majority of Americans. The press is determined not to examine the real career of Obama — but someone’s got to do it!!
No gun shops within 5 miles of schools should be nearly impossible. Guess we better outlaw schools.”
So if the gun shop has been there for 50 years and they want to add a school that is within the 5 mile circle, then, who gets to relocate??? That makes a pretty big “no store zone”. In many small towns, it couldn’t be implemented-—
Wait—that is exactly what the people who want to control every aspect of our lives wants, eh???
“Barack Obama proposed a few years ago a federal law against licensed firearms dealers operating within five miles of a school or park.”
Didn’t the Supreme Court rule a law similar to this to be unconstitutional?
Obama is an extremist. Pro-abort extremist - even to the point of opposing a bill outlawing the killing of born-alive victims of abortion; pro-gay extremist - even to the point of wanting to overturn DOMA and have them serve openly in the military; pro-illegals extremist - even to the point of wanting to give them drivers licenses.
Now he’s a gun-grabbing extremist, supporting the unconstitutional DC gun ban and ready to propose his own anti-RKBA bills.
Bumping and saving this story.
Obama? Yo’ Momma!
Minorities, Women and Children hardest hit. Obama-Ramadhan is a naive and dangerous person.
Guns stores that offer porn should be exempt.
If the Republican Party would just find it’s courage, neither Hillary nor Obama would be that hard to beat.
Instead, they trip over themselves trying not to get a tongue lashing from the NY Times.
Maybe we should just outlaw politicians.
Your so right Bender.
IMO. The ONLY reason hes done so well against Hillary is because theyre not really throwing blows like McCain will do to the winner of the RAT primary.
I think the major reason he is doing well is that he is running in races where the voters are democrats. That means a large fraction of them have trouble understanding which end of the gun is dangerous let alone understanding what any specific candidate for office might do to our constitution.
This is like running Cynthia McKinney for POTUS (without the overt attitude).
“He voted “present” on almost everything. The man didn’t do ANYTHING...”
He’s a snake in the grass...
Yeah, I started having those thoughts but grew pretty concerned when I thought of the sheeple being produced in the Barack Obama "approved" public schools across this nation and I thought of the slow and painful death suffered by common sense. Then I remembered something my pastor had once said in a sermon that makes utter and chilling sense when applied here (not an exact quote):
The image that most folks have of Satan is a silly red creature with horns and a pitchfork and that simply is not true. Lucifier was created by God to be the most beautiful of the angels, therefore Satan is going to be winsome and attractive and well spoken. He's going to make you want to be around him all the time because he makes you feel good about yourself and your role in the future and he keeps those good times rollin'!
Never underestimate the power of evil to find a way. NOW how confident do you feel? Sorry. Forewarned is forearmed, right? If we treat this as the mother of all political battles, we are unlikely to be ambushed like Hillary has been. But this is one political contest we can't afford to lose. We're fighting for the soul of the nation. Don't take it lightly. Right?