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“If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him (first).”
Israpundit ^ | Mar 4/08 | Ted Belman

Posted on 03/04/2008 6:22:19 AM PST by tedbel

I asked Col. Bruce T Smith for a legal opinion on what restrictions or laws Israel is subject to in its self defense and included the opinion in my post Bomb Gaza. Win the War.

    In sum: Israel is free to employ ALL munitions, tactics, equipment and personnel in her arsenal to defend herself against the outlaw Hamas terrorist organization. Short of the intentional targeting and murder of truly uninvolved and innocent civilians, Israel can (and should) operate as freely as she desires to protect her territorial sovereignty and the lives of her citizens.

What could be clearer.

Just the other day Ehud Barak said that he was going to ask the Justice Ministry for an opinion on the matter. This is a joke. There is no question that Barak has numerous legal opinions on the question throughout his career and now that he is Defense Minister must have viewed all the opinions given to his predecessor during the Lebanese War. PM Olmert also muddied the waters when he said "Nobody has the right to preach morals to Israel for taking basic measures to defend itself.” He obviously is introducing a moral standard rather than a legal one. But the moral standard is a quagmire. A state owes a duty to its citizens to defend them. Fulfilling this duty is its highest value. A state is derelict if it compromises this duty by concern for a non-existent duty to avoid killing enemy civilians. The only duty in war a state has is not to intentionally kill civilians. If civilians get killed as collateral damage even in disproportionate numbers, it is still legal. The IDF must kill as many of its terrorists as it can with the least casualties of its own. This is its duty and its morality.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: casualties; morality; war

1 posted on 03/04/2008 6:22:21 AM PST by tedbel
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To: tedbel

“truly uninvolved and innocent civilians,”

Interesting point of innocent. Most Americans and their families never owned slaves and most people in this country had families living in another part of the world and were not here during slavery yet, everyone must pay the price of 100’s of years ago.

What makes some in a society innocent?


2 posted on 03/04/2008 6:26:57 AM PST by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: tedbel

“Do unto others before they do unto you.”


3 posted on 03/04/2008 6:29:12 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: tedbel
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4 posted on 03/04/2008 6:38:00 AM PST by Harry Pothead (One issue voter, who wil kill islamofacists?)
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To: tedbel
If someone tries to kill you, you kill him first.
-- Captain Malcolm Reynolds
Firefly Episode "Our Mrs. Reynolds"


5 posted on 03/04/2008 6:38:06 AM PST by VRWCmember (McCain 2008 - If it's inevitable, you might as well lay back and try to enjoy it.)
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To: tedbel
"...truly uninvolved and innocent civilians"

You won't find many of these in the area.
After all, we are talking about palestinian muslims.

6 posted on 03/04/2008 7:15:21 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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7 posted on 03/04/2008 7:17:49 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: tedbel
If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him. (first)

Does this apply to IRS agents and enviro nuts?

8 posted on 03/04/2008 7:22:09 AM PST by jetson
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To: Iron Munro

No, as much as that pains me to say, that’s not true.

A significant percentage of the arabs are hateful killers, probably a majority of them are sympathizers (but do not act), and then there are plenty that are helpful and just want to raise their families and have a good business.

I would say, but for OUTSIDE influence and $$$ (first Saddam and Sunis, now Iran) they would have become like Egypt -— that is, not a place to flaunt one’s Jewishness, but OK.


9 posted on 03/04/2008 7:35:48 AM PST by Yitzchak
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To: jetson
If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him. (first)

Does this apply to IRS agents and enviro nuts?

I don't know -- but it should.

10 posted on 03/04/2008 8:54:04 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Smart burglars would be lining up up at the unemployment offices.)
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