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Obama mentioned among documents recovered by Colombia from slain FARC leader Raśl Reyes
http://www.marthacolmenares.com/2008/03/03/hasta-obama-sale-a-relucir-en-cartas-encontradas-a-reyes/ ^ | Martha Colmenares

Posted on 03/04/2008 11:11:28 AM PST by ElCapitanAmericaLives

Article has the last "letter" from Reyes to the FARC. Below is the relevant section talking about Obama followed by my translation;

"6. Los gringos pedirán cita con el ministro para solicitarle nos comunicara su interés en conversar estos temas. Dicen que el nuevo presidente de su país será Obama y que ellos están interesados en sus compatriotas. Obama no apoyara Plan Colombia ni firma de TLC. Aquí respondimos que nos interesan las relaciones con todos los gobiernos en igualdad de condiciones y que en el caso de Estados Unidos se requiere in pronunciamiento público expresando su interés en conversar con las Farc dada su eterna guerra con nosotros.

Es todo, Abrazos, Raúl."

6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support "Plan Colombia" nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement). Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; chavez; chebama; colombia; cultofobama; farc; hopefornuts; hussein; nobama; obama; raulreyes; tlc
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The FARC is expecting an Obama victory?
1 posted on 03/04/2008 11:11:32 AM PST by ElCapitanAmericaLives
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

glimpses behind the curtain of an Obama presidency...*shivers*


2 posted on 03/04/2008 11:13:15 AM PST by catbertz
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

el last gaspo Hillaryo


3 posted on 03/04/2008 11:13:20 AM PST by palmer
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
“The FARC is expecting an Obama victory?” At least hoping with the help of their cocaine and Venezuelan oil money from fruitcake Chavez.
4 posted on 03/04/2008 11:15:09 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

So Obama has the FARC narcoterrorist endorsement now? Has al Qadea weighed in yet?


5 posted on 03/04/2008 11:15:09 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Cindy Sheehan’s boyfriend Hugo Chavez will be making a deadly mistake if he supports FARC militarily.


6 posted on 03/04/2008 11:15:36 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Well, isn’t that special?


7 posted on 03/04/2008 11:15:46 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

CARUMBA!.................


8 posted on 03/04/2008 11:15:46 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Who are the “gringos?” Obama staffers?


9 posted on 03/04/2008 11:17:01 AM PST by Martin Tell ("It is the right, good old way you are in: keep in it.")
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Good Luck with that... LOL.

Clinton and Obama will both be toast come the General Election. Obama is so far left and he’s pulled Clinton so far left that their lunatic views are now fully established. I also don’t think that the American people will vote for anyone who didn’t, or doesn’t support the war in Iraq.


10 posted on 03/04/2008 11:18:39 AM PST by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

That section has not context to it. Can someone translate the whole thing?


11 posted on 03/04/2008 11:19:16 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: neodad

Can a pronouncement from a cave be far behind?


12 posted on 03/04/2008 11:19:39 AM PST by SueRae
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

It’s nice to have friends in high places.


13 posted on 03/04/2008 11:19:40 AM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: TexasCajun
Hugo Chavez will be making a deadly mistake if he supports FARC militarily.

Chavez already gave them $300 million. That will buy a lot of destabilization in Columbia.

14 posted on 03/04/2008 11:19:46 AM PST by DJtex
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To: neodad

No, but Raul Castro endorsed him yesterday!


15 posted on 03/04/2008 11:20:33 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Any mention of Clinton’s 2000 FARC pardons?


16 posted on 03/04/2008 11:20:58 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Utterly meaningless without identification of the “gringos” making the statements.


17 posted on 03/04/2008 11:21:01 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

who are these gringos? oh never mind... dims i c..


18 posted on 03/04/2008 11:21:20 AM PST by Ancient Drive
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

All very interesting, but it’s not much of a reflection on Obama. This is some (now dead) guy planning ahead, not anything that Obama has done.


19 posted on 03/04/2008 11:21:32 AM PST by r9etb
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To: palmer

Bill doubled his coka order if FARC would put Obama’s name somewhere in their documents!


20 posted on 03/04/2008 11:21:42 AM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
Small correction in translation in the last sentence.
Here we responded that they interest the relations to us with all the governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the United States is required in public uprising expressing its interest in talking with the given CRAF eternal war with us.

I wonder what they mean by 'public uprising'

21 posted on 03/04/2008 11:21:57 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

sothe FARC thinks an Obama win will be good for them. Says a lot!


22 posted on 03/04/2008 11:22:14 AM PST by RDTF (Go AEGIS!)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Obama’s plan:

Withdraw U.S. support from it’s allies, the Columbians.
And then sit down w Hugo and ask him to use restraint during his conquest of Columbia.
He’d tell Hugo, that if he plays nice, the U.S. will legalize drugs, to ensure him a cushy income for life.


23 posted on 03/04/2008 11:22:35 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Wondering who is carrying the overweight baggage onto Mr. Obama’s flight?


24 posted on 03/04/2008 11:23:15 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: catbertz

“..glimpses behind..”

That is so accurate, Che’ Obama is a nuevo Commie, his background simply screams “Internationale Leftist”.

Groups like FARC and Shinning Path and the European leftist such as George Galloway are the people he is closest to philosophically.

As bad as Mad John is, he is 1000% better then Che Obama.


25 posted on 03/04/2008 11:23:20 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Southack

He pardoned guys from the FALN not FARC. I am sure, however, he would have done that also if possible.


26 posted on 03/04/2008 11:23:44 AM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: All

I guess Obama was feeling left out...needed the FARC endorsement because John McCain already got the Al-Qaeda front-group backing


27 posted on 03/04/2008 11:24:24 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Anyone Notice....But It Is Only The Low-Rated Talk Radio Hosts That Support McCain)
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To: Southack
Any mention of Clinton’s 2000 FARC pardons?

_______________________________________

Details please.

28 posted on 03/04/2008 11:24:55 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: rockinqsranch

“Wondering who is carrying the overweight baggage onto Mr. Obama’s flight?”

Its not over weight. It weighs exactly 2.2 lbs!


29 posted on 03/04/2008 11:25:11 AM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Chavez, give OBAMA your ringing endorsement and let our Press try to bury it!!


30 posted on 03/04/2008 11:25:23 AM PST by supremedoctrine (w)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Oh shite!


31 posted on 03/04/2008 11:26:11 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (You don't hafta call me Hussein, you can call me Insane............)
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To: mnehrling

” Aquí respondimos que nos interesan las relaciones con todos los gobiernos en igualdad de condiciones y que en el caso de Estados Unidos se requiere in pronunciamiento público expresando su interés en conversar con las Farc dada su eterna guerra con nosotros.

“Pronunciamiento publico” means “Public pronouncement”. Not uprising.

Gringos here means “The Americans”


32 posted on 03/04/2008 11:26:35 AM PST by ElCapitanAmericaLives
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To: padre35
As bad as Mad John is, he is 1000% better then Che Obama.

I'll confess, I was one of the "I'll never vote for McCain" contingent. I think I'm starting to come to my senses..slowly. Truth is, there are always greater and lesser evils in life. I'll pick my fights caerfully.

33 posted on 03/04/2008 11:27:26 AM PST by catbertz
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Full article via babelfish (FARC meeting with Ecuadorian ministers of state?):

Under the title ` Secre13’, kept in its computer the terrorist just lowered Raul Kings, which could be the last letters sent to the other members of the secretaryship of the band of delinquents of the CRAF. In one of them, aside from mentioning to Chávez and assuring that the recent liberation of the 4 ex- congressmen would give greater protagonism to the Venezuelan president, also on the contacts of the president of Ecuador, Rafael Strap (to see the videos here), appears this pearlite Obama. And thus it says very textually: They say that the new president of his country will be Obama and that they are interested in their compatriots. Obama did not support Colombia Plan nor company/signature of TLC... Martha Colmenares. It follows with images of found documents, and the reports. Conflict | 7:47 a.m. The last letter of ` Raul Reyes’ to the CRAF Elpais.com.co-Colprensa Two were the post office that the authorities found in one of the three computers of alias ` Raul Reyes’ and that would jeopardize, presumably, to high civil employees of the Ecuadorian government with the CRAF. One of them, recorded in the hard disk with the title ` Secre13’, could in the last constitute message that ` Reyes’ sent to him to the other members of the secretaryship of that illegal organization. The date, 28 of February, according to documents analyzed by the Colombian authorities, would give account of this circumstance. In the message ` Reyes’ analyzed the positive and negative points of the most recent unilateral liberation of kidnapped and the possible pressures that the situation of the ex- presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt will generate. In addition, it summarizes in nine points, the conclusions of a conversation that, according to the document, would have had ` Reyes’ with ` the Emisarió of Ecuador, that would be, according to the Colombian authorities, the minister of security of that country, Gustavo Larrea. This civil employee, apparently, transferred the interest of the Ecuadorian government to meet with the secretaryship of the CRAF in Quito. This is the last complete letter of Kings whom it sent to the secretaryship, 48 hours before being lowered by an operative one of the Armed Forces of Colombia: Comrades of the Secretaryship. Warm Greeting. 1. It concluded in success the phase of unilaterial liberation of prisoners. We took off several loads of above and we propped up our policy in front of president Chávez. span class=”negrita” the black point, is the increase of the pressure by Ingrid on behalf of the declarations of Luis Eladio Perez, giving account of its extreme gravity and the discriminatory treatment against her. To where I know, this lady is of volcanic temperament, is crude and provoking with the guerrillas in charge to take care of it. In addition as she knows of image and semiología, she uses them in hitting against the CRAF. Anticipating the reclamations of the emissary frances, I think to inform it into this situation. 2. I summarize recent conversation with emissary of President Correa: “A-(El emissary) solicits to talk personally with the secretaryship (of the CRAF) in Quito, offers guarantees and transport from the border to the encounter place. Delay our answer in the smaller possible time, indicating date (of the encounter).. It asks to us if we want to do supported it in the military or their minister of state security (Gustavo Larrea).. It wishes to speak with the CRAF in the humanitarian agreement, the policy of frontaras, the political solution, Ingrid (Betancourt) and the paper of (Hugo) Chávez. It wishes to establish coordinations with us on the binational border... Wants (the Ecuadorian government) to explain the intentions of the Ecuador Plan with which it tries to resist the harmful effects of the Colombia Plan that will apply in the boundary. For the Ecuador Plan they request course to us of organization of masses for native of the border, those that soon will be ordered by the Government to coordinate with the CRAF the border work. With the advantage that people of this are part of (...) the clandestine one or they participate in the binational committee... G. It insists (the Ecuadorian government) on its interest to contribute with the interchange of prisoners, for which it requests the liberation of the son of (Gustavo) Moncayo or another prisoner “. 3. In the part of the intention, we thank for it we explained that decisions of these correspond to the secretaryship and certain time for its definition is required. We made our interest in contributing more in the work of brothers in the border, coherence with explained ours in the bolivariana platform, the manifesto and other documents of the secretaryship clear. 4. By talked with the Emissary the Chávez relations - Strap is not at their better moment, shows of this, Uribe calls frequently to Strap so that it contributes to file harshness to him with Chávez. Uribe, outside the ambassador, has located in Quito another civil employee, whose mission is to do ` lobby’ before Strap and its equipment of Government, soliciing aid in the fight against the CRAF and improving the relations with Chávez “. 5. It does not let worry a possible one moved to take care of the invitation by the high concentration of agencies of intelligence and corruption in that country, where the government is quite weak there. 6. The gringos will request appointment with the minister to solicit from him communicated their interest to us in talking these subjects. They say that the new president of his country will be Obama and that they are interested in their compatriots. Obama did not support Colombia Plan nor company/signature of TLC. Here we responded that they interest the relations to us with all the governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the United States is required in public uprising expressing its interest in talking with the given CRAF its eternal war with us. He is everything, Hugs, Raul.


34 posted on 03/04/2008 11:27:26 AM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: mnehrling

“Pronunciamiento público” means public notice.


35 posted on 03/04/2008 11:27:39 AM PST by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

This should go over like a FARC in church.


37 posted on 03/04/2008 11:29:11 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

Thanks..


38 posted on 03/04/2008 11:29:22 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

“...The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots.”

The question is WHO are these “Gringo’s” that say Obama will be our next President, and soliciting an audience with...?


39 posted on 03/04/2008 11:29:37 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Martin Tell; wtc911; Ancient Drive

Follow the pronouns, the gringos’ president will be Obama...


40 posted on 03/04/2008 11:31:12 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: rockinqsranch

Direct link to article from El Pais;
http://www.elpais.com.co/paisonline/notas/Marzo032008/raulreyestexto%20.html

I think gringos here is just a general reference to Americans.


41 posted on 03/04/2008 11:31:15 AM PST by ElCapitanAmericaLives
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To: Holicheese

I was thinking of illicit campaign contributions. Who is the bagman?


42 posted on 03/04/2008 11:33:00 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

FARC, Ahmadinejad, Raul, Chavez, Al Quida...there are simply too many of our abject enemies hoping that Obama wins for the American people (hopefully) to consider or risk this out and out leftists and enemy sympathiser to be made our President.


43 posted on 03/04/2008 11:34:30 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: neodad

I’m sure AQI supports him already. You know: “I’ll retreat from our fight against al Qaeda in Iraq, but if AQI is there after we retreat we’ll go back in. And then we’ll have to reatreat again because we shouldn’t be fighting in Iraq, but then we’ll go back in because AQ is there, etc etc etc ad infinitum...”

AQ is prob laughing their @$$es off, but since they know we’re not Spain they’ll keep it to themselves.


44 posted on 03/04/2008 11:35:37 AM PST by sanchmo
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To: rockinqsranch

Ahhh, I was thinking about his payoff!
1 kilo at a time!

Is this real or is this a rumor.


45 posted on 03/04/2008 11:35:45 AM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: dynachrome

...appears this pearlite Obama. And thus it says very textually: Obama will not oppose us.


46 posted on 03/04/2008 11:36:35 AM PST by Sender (Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.)
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

bookmark


47 posted on 03/04/2008 11:36:36 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: ElCapitanAmericaLives

For this thing to get any legs, the whole letter will have to be translated and put somewhere else so that people like drudge might actually link to it.


48 posted on 03/04/2008 11:37:18 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: jerod

“I also don’t think that the American people will vote for anyone who didn’t, or doesn’t support the war in Iraq.”

You wrong. Half of America wants out.


49 posted on 03/04/2008 11:37:26 AM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Holicheese

This is what the Colombian government claims was in the computer, they’re going to submit this to other groups for verification.

This doesn’t mean Obama has done anything wrong, just that FARC expects to be able to open up talks with the US if he wins. It also means that they see him as not voting for Plan Colombia (which is what is decimating them) and the trade agreement.

Fair questions by the press are what his positions are on Plan Colombia and the free trade agreement with Colombia.


50 posted on 03/04/2008 11:38:02 AM PST by ElCapitanAmericaLives
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