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California High School Football Star Gunned Down in Random Gang Attack
FOXNews.com ^ | Tuesday, March 04, 2008 | FoxNews

Posted on 03/04/2008 1:16:08 PM PST by metmom

LOS ANGELES — A high school football star described as "a Houdini on the football field" was shot dead on Sunday in random gang violence and his mother was returning from her second tour of duty in Iraq.

Jamiel Andre Shaw, 17, was shot multiple times on a sidewalk a few yards from his home after he didn't respond when two men pulled up in a car and asked him, "Where you from?" — code for which gang did he belong to, police said. He was not a gang member.

Authorities are calling the shooting a random, unprovoked gang attack.

Shaw, a standout running back at Los Angeles High School and the Southern League's most valuable player last season, was shot about 8:40 p.m. Sunday in the Crenshaw area. He died later at a local hospital.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; football; gang; hispanicgangs; immigration; losangeles; ms13; shooting; teens
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1 posted on 03/04/2008 1:16:13 PM PST by metmom
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To: metmom

Impossible. Guns are strictly regulated in California. /sarc


2 posted on 03/04/2008 1:18:38 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: metmom

Good kid growing up in a bad neighborhood. I’ve never understood why decent people would choose to live in gangland.


3 posted on 03/04/2008 1:18:42 PM PST by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: metmom
This is from Xinhua, so while one is considering the source....

Official: Los Angeles haunted by gang violence

4 posted on 03/04/2008 1:18:51 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: metmom

sad and sensless. I live in Long Beach. We have a lot of this nonsense.

Perserving the 2nd Amendment is more important than ever now. There have been a rash of shootings lately.


5 posted on 03/04/2008 1:18:54 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: metmom

That S*CKS.

Prayers said.


6 posted on 03/04/2008 1:19:17 PM PST by fishhound
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To: metmom
Shades of Boyz In The Hood, in which non-gang-affiliated football star Ricky is gunned down.
7 posted on 03/04/2008 1:22:25 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: metmom

8 posted on 03/04/2008 1:22:51 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: metmom

Black and Black crime is rampant. Where is the black leadership on these issues.


9 posted on 03/04/2008 1:22:58 PM PST by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: metmom
‘Boyz N the Hood’ redux.

RIP, prayers for family and friends.

10 posted on 03/04/2008 1:24:28 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: edcoil

There isn’t any.

To do so would admit conservatives might actually be right about a few things.


11 posted on 03/04/2008 1:25:18 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: metmom
If the rehabilitate the gang-bangers and declare all of California a “gun free zone,” maybe their problems will go away.
12 posted on 03/04/2008 1:27:14 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: metmom

This is a racially motivated crime. If the victim weren’t black, the perps would not have assumed he was in a gang and would not have thrown down on him. If he were Asian, he might have just been beaten up.

But because of his race, this young man was killed. Will the DOJ file charges under the “Hate Crimes Act” against the shooters? Or will this just be considered routine since the victim is black even though the shooters are likely serial killers?


13 posted on 03/04/2008 1:29:42 PM PST by bpjam (My party has fallen and it can't get up)
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To: metmom
Police said they are seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects, whom officials described only as two Latino men a white compact sedan.

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I'd bet a paycheck that the murdering thugs are "undocumented" guests in this country, just doing the drive-bys that Americans won't do.

14 posted on 03/04/2008 1:31:08 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: RoadKingSE

Yup. I wonder about the safety of the witness. It’s unlikely that he’s any safer not talking than talking. They know he saw them and that’s all it takes.

He needs to move far away.


15 posted on 03/04/2008 1:34:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

So sad. His mother survives two tours of duty in Iraq and he is gunned down a few yards from his house.


16 posted on 03/04/2008 1:35:24 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: metmom

“Police said they are seeking the public’s help in identifying the suspects, whom officials described only as two Latino men in a white compact sedan. Investigators believe the shooting was not racially motivated. Jamiel was black.”

The hispanic gang movement is systematically shifting the residents of traditional black communities farther out and away from generational neighborhoods; soon it will be all latino.


17 posted on 03/04/2008 1:36:05 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: edcoil

Read the whole article.


18 posted on 03/04/2008 1:36:56 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: RoadKingSE

Ironically, it is mostly the second generation who become gang members with the obvious exception of the traveling gangs from deeper South America.


19 posted on 03/04/2008 1:39:14 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: RoadKingSE
I’d go further and bet the murderers are in gangs affiliated with either the paramilitary Zetas from Mexico or the paramilitary MS13 from El Salvador. Government estimates place gang membership affiliated with these two paramilitary organization at 200,000 nationwide at present. They are present in every state and have moved from being exclusively in the inner cities to the suburbs.
20 posted on 03/04/2008 1:43:21 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: edcoil
“Black and Black crime is rampant. Where is the black leadership on these issues.”

Major question there!

Pure BS and hell for the few that raise their children with any hope. And I ain’t talkin’ about Obama hope.

God bless and keep this child and his family!

21 posted on 03/04/2008 1:52:08 PM PST by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: metmom

Gang home boys are among the stupidist humans walking the planet


22 posted on 03/04/2008 2:04:12 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: edcoil

Police are looking for two latinos. American criminals or imported criminals?


23 posted on 03/04/2008 2:20:37 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: edcoil; metmom
Black and (sic) Black crime is rampant. Where is the black leadership on these issues.

Blaming Whitey.

24 posted on 03/04/2008 2:31:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: metmom

How much will people take before they take it upon themselves to start cleaning out the lowlife themselves. The police, courts and politicians will never do it.


25 posted on 03/04/2008 2:33:40 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Latino + gang + LA = you tell me


26 posted on 03/04/2008 2:33:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: paul51

There was a discussion about this on another thread some time back and the posters were commenting that the Latino gangs are targeting the blacks to exterminate them.

It’ll start when the black community realizes what’s going on. They need to get over the victim mentality and fight back. It’ll get real ugly in the cities at that point.


27 posted on 03/04/2008 2:36:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: yldstrk
"Gang home boys are among the stupidist humans walking the planet"

Essentially correct except for one error -- they're not human. They may appear human but they're not. They are feral beasts who happen to know how to talk, drive cars and pull triggers on guns. Not every creature with a head, two legs, two arms and the ability to ape some form human verbal communication should be considered part of mankind.

28 posted on 03/04/2008 2:44:46 PM PST by StormEye
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To: paul51

Its too late..... drive around the massive area we call LA, about 20% of it is safe......


29 posted on 03/04/2008 2:52:45 PM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: Inyo-Mono

Heartbreaking. Here’s a family doing everything right and they’re handed this. I cannot comprehend that kind of senseless loss. My heartfelt sympathies to his family and I hope the vermin that did this are removed from the planet ..pronto.


30 posted on 03/04/2008 2:57:06 PM PST by SueRae
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To: edcoil

It was Latino gangsters that killed this kid.


31 posted on 03/04/2008 2:58:32 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Republic Rocker

We could use some of the same neighborhood cleariing techniques learned in IRaq to clean out this trash. US cities could benefit from ‘surges’, too.


32 posted on 03/04/2008 2:59:39 PM PST by SueRae
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To: SueRae

Amen!


33 posted on 03/04/2008 3:03:21 PM PST by kenavi ("My mudder thanks you, my fodder thanks you, and Obama thanks you!")
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To: Paleo Conservative
” Black and (sic) Black crime is rampant. Where is the black leadership on these issues.

Blaming Whitey.”

The irony is the since the suspects appear to be Latino it will be recorded as a White on Black hate crime for DOJ statistics because of the absence of Hispanic as a perpetrator class.

34 posted on 03/04/2008 3:03:56 PM PST by Polynikes (Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill?)
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To: Polynikes
The irony is the since the suspects appear to be Latino it will be recorded as a White on Black hate crime for DOJ statistics because of the absence of Hispanic as a perpetrator class.

Incorrect. There are specific categories of "white, non-hispanic" and "white, hispanic" in the criminal statistical databases. My wife enters stats as part of her job. The change was made because hispanic criminal activity was getting buried in the "white, non-hispanic" group and mislabeled. Once it was correctly classified, the pattern became quite obvious.

35 posted on 03/04/2008 3:16:44 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: edcoil

“Black and Black crime is rampant. Where is the black leadership on these issues.”

Blaming whitey and using the issue to gain power and make money. Not really leadership? You got that right!


36 posted on 03/04/2008 4:21:44 PM PST by piytar
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To: RoadKingSE
I'd bet a paycheck that the murdering thugs are "undocumented" guests in this country, just doing the drive-bys that Americans won't do.

I'd pass on that bet. I would, however, double-or-nothing that all of the shooters involved, and 70-30 odds the victim of the shooting, were fatherless boys.

Simple solutions. Not EASY solutions, but simple solutions. Race and residential legality are beside the point in this story, but the MSM will certainly daintily sidestep the real issue -- the most common denominator here isn't race or legal status or even income, I'll bet. It's a result of a society that funds young single motherhood. Very ugly reality that has many putting their hands over their ears going "Nyayn nayayaya nyayaya I can't hear you!"

37 posted on 03/04/2008 4:30:31 PM PST by Finny (Limited Government is Christian Morality's Best Friend -- The horse that pulls the cart.)
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To: metmom
In the book Mexican Mafia, published last year, they describe a pattern of mexican gangsters killing blacks walking down the street. Their fear is that if blacks stay or move into their drug sale area, other blacks, including gangsters will follow. So they kill some guy walking down the street as a warning to others. The mexican mafia sees this as a way to limit competition for drug sales.

The author of the book says the media in LA will not report the pattern which has seen half a dozen similar murders in the last couple of years.One last comment the criminalization of drugs has made these gangs rich and stokes the fires of some of these shootings. Same as the Italians in the 20s and early 30s. Those who don't heed history are doomed to report it.

38 posted on 03/04/2008 4:39:03 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: Finny
I'd pass on that bet. I would, however, double-or-nothing that all of the shooters involved, and 70-30 odds the victim of the shooting, were fatherless boys.

If I were you I'd read the entire article before doubling down. The boy's father, Jamiel Sr., lived in the home and had called his son home from the mall the night he was killed. His mother was serving in Iraq. Sounds like a solid family stuck in a LA craphole to me.

The Salvadoran Mara Salvatrucha thugs are predominantly illegals and would benefit minimally from having fathers around. In fact many of these vatos are second generation gang bangers.

But it's your money.

39 posted on 03/04/2008 5:39:08 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: purpleraine
The author of the book says the media in LA will not report the pattern which has seen half a dozen similar murders in the last couple of years.One last comment the criminalization of drugs has made these gangs rich and stokes the fires of some of these shootings. Same as the Italians in the 20s and early 30s. Those who don't heed history are doomed to report it.

Prohibition worked: it reduced alcohol consumption. If only we had persevered, we could have reduced it even more.

The lesson is clear. We must not let other intoxicants become culturally acceptable like alcohol. The war is costly, but losing the war would cost even more.

40 posted on 03/04/2008 5:42:12 PM PST by secretagent (I just made up that post to sound like a drug warrior. I really support legalizing drugs.)
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To: metmom

Unprovoked my rear

Why aren’t gangs made to have fewer members by some fed-up citizens?


41 posted on 03/04/2008 6:31:33 PM PST by wastedyears (Iron Maiden in two weeks' time.)
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To: wastedyears

It’s the ONLY thing that’s going to work. Law enforcement clearly can’t do anything about them. They continue in prisons.

While I’m no fan of vigilante justice, people need to start shooting back and getting rid of these vermin. They’re a cancer to society.


42 posted on 03/04/2008 6:38:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RoadKingSE
I'm surprised and glad that Jamiel's dad is at home, but that doesn't change the odds I see in the world around me that most boys don't have dads at home, especially boys in low-rent hoods, sadly. I didn't read the article -- I LIVE down here. I'm not surprised that it's black-on-brown gang crap. There are gangs in every color and race down here. Racial divides, legal/illegal divides, economic divides are irrelevant to the real problem, which is gang behavior. It in great part involves boys with no dads at home. Teen motherhood is the norm.

Anger at illegal aliens is a little too easy, and I've worked side-by-side with too many illegals who were GREAT co-workers, and have worked side-by-side with too many legals who were FLAKES, to be so cavalier. Meet a paycheck or work a series of grunt-jobs and then talk about illegals. The "illegal" is not the problem. Government give-aways that encourage illegals to come and be social dependents, are the problem. You can go on a big hate spree against illegals if you want, but you're jousting at smoke rings. The cause of them being here is what I am jousting at.

43 posted on 03/04/2008 6:56:59 PM PST by Finny (Limited Government is Christian Morality's Best Friend -- The horse that pulls the cart.)
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To: metmom

Have you seen Shooter? When he goes to rescue the agent?

:)


44 posted on 03/04/2008 6:57:48 PM PST by wastedyears (Iron Maiden in two weeks' time.)
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To: wastedyears

No.


45 posted on 03/04/2008 7:02:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Finny
You can go on a big hate spree against illegals if you want, but you're jousting at smoke rings. The cause of them being here is what I am jousting at.

I'm not on a hate spree. Just a reality check. I had a neighbor whose son in grad school was mowed down and killed by an "undocumented" drunk driver from a South American country. According to his boss, he was a hard worker and he had a social sec. card and a MD drivers license. Forged.

Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy and his buddies in the Senate have been holding the door open to these invaders for over 30 years with hopes of getting them legalized and registered to vote. Anecdotal tales of tragedy don't make the entire case, but you know as well as I do that the Callefournea jails are full of "visitors" from down south. Mayhem all over this country can be directly attributed to our politicians lack of fortitude in closing the Southern border to these parasites.

I've owned a small business and never lacked for workers with suspicious documents asking for work. Truth be told many would likely have been better employees than the lazy slugs that churned through with valid ID. So I followed the law and got punked by cheating competitors.

I agree with those that say control the borders first. Then we'll send in the social workers with the gubmint cheese.

46 posted on 03/04/2008 7:32:27 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: RoadKingSE

You got it, Road King. It’s the government “safety net” support system that creates the problems, not the folks themselves, and the demand for them is real no matter how much people ridicule “doing the jobs Americans won’t do.” They’ve been an important part of the California economy for as long as anybody can remember, but only in the last generation has the term “illegal” (used to be “wetback”) even meant much socially or politically other than just as a passing observation, mostly. Enforce the laws on the books and TAKE AWAY THE WELFARE SAFETY NETS. Not to mention minimum wage laws, but that’s whole ‘nother talk show!


47 posted on 03/04/2008 7:39:18 PM PST by Finny (Limited Government is Christian Morality's Best Friend -- The horse that pulls the cart.)
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To: highimpact
I’ve never understood why decent people would choose to live in gangland

Now wait a minute...unless you're rich, there is nowhere left to run. A lot of neighborhoods that were quite decent 25 years ago have gone very bad. Things really started to go downhill after the 1986 amnesty, IMHO.

Latino gangstas have been systematically eliminating blacks from "their" neighborhoods, and it's rarely reported in the major media. Anyone familiar with what's been going on in Highland Park with "The Avenues" gangs?

48 posted on 03/05/2008 7:41:03 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: metmom
Just so everyone knows before jumping to judgement. This was a black boy shot by a HISPANIC GANG BANGER.

They also go on in the article to say a 6 year old boy was shot by a HISPANIC GANG BANGER

We need to close the borders now!!!

49 posted on 03/05/2008 8:17:37 AM PST by Dengar01
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To: Aaron0617
yet another black child shot......same latinos??


Child Shot While Riding in Car in Harbor Gateway Area
Last Edited: Wednesday, 05 Mar 2008, 7:30 AM PST

A 6-year-old boy riding in a sedan was shot in the head and hospitalized in critical but stable condition Tuesday when two suspects flashed gang signs at the vehicle and then opened fire.

A manhunt was under way today for two suspected Latino gang members who opened fire on an SUV in the Harbor Gateway area, critically wounding a 6-year-old boy in the head in the latest in a series of high-profile shootings in Los Angeles.

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5939737&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

50 posted on 03/05/2008 8:32:28 AM PST by Aaron0617
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