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California's top court ponders gay marriage
Reuters ^ | 3-4-08 | Adam Tanner

Posted on 03/04/2008 1:42:44 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Four years after San Francisco ignited a heated national debate by briefly allowing gay marriage, California's top court hears arguments on Tuesday about whether matrimony should be limited to a man and a woman.

The hearing brings into focus the highest-profile U.S. fight over gay rights in recent years and the outcome could end up influencing legislation and litigation in other states on a matter that has been a hot-button issue in election campaigns.

"California's a bellwether state. What happens here, blows east," said Larry Bowler, a retired deputy sheriff from Sacramento, who opposes gay marriage, outside the courthouse.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom forced the issue by suddenly issuing gay marriage licenses in February 2004. More than 4,000 homosexual couples took him up on the offer, before a lower court halted the process.

California's Supreme Court ruled later that year that Newsom, mayor of a city long at the forefront of the fight for gay rights, had no authority to perform weddings for same-sex couples and voided the marriages...."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caglbt; gayagenda; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda
That California, especially San Francisco, blows is beyond dispute. Western Civilization has gone mad!
1 posted on 03/04/2008 1:42:44 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

something blows, that’s for sure.


2 posted on 03/04/2008 1:43:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom forced the issue by suddenly issuing gay marriage licenses in February 2004. More than 4,000 homosexual couples took him up on the offer, before a lower court halted the process.”

Um, didn’t he do this in DEFIANCE of the law?


3 posted on 03/04/2008 1:44:35 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Evidently it makes no difference that the voters already decided this issue. (Of course, if they had voted for gay marriage, it would make all the difference in the world, and dissenters would be disemboweled.)
4 posted on 03/04/2008 1:46:42 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Defeated everytime it’s brought to the voters. Enough already.


5 posted on 03/04/2008 1:46:45 PM PST by sappy
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Where does our Conservative Liberal Republican Nominee stand on a Federal Marriage Amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman?


6 posted on 03/04/2008 1:46:45 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What happens here, blows east,”

A comedian no doubt!


7 posted on 03/04/2008 1:48:05 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: narses

ping


8 posted on 03/04/2008 1:50:04 PM PST by gpapa (Kill the terrorists, protect the borders, punch the hippies)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
They're all too likely to be studying the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision requiring the legislature to legalize gay marriage. Marriage is "an evolving paradigm," ya know!
9 posted on 03/04/2008 1:50:06 PM PST by maryz
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hilarious!
The California Supes are going to throw away Webster’s dictionary and start redefining words in the English language.
How quaint.


10 posted on 03/04/2008 1:50:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: TexasCajun

“Where does our Conservative Liberal Republican Nominee stand on a Federal Marriage Amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman?”

Just like his belief that man can control the sun. He also believes man can reverse Mother Nature.


11 posted on 03/04/2008 1:59:45 PM PST by wilco200
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"California's a bellwether state. What happens here, blows east," said Larry Bowler Oh yea a lot from California blows East!!! Aids
12 posted on 03/04/2008 2:04:53 PM PST by Morgana (Latest joke: Don't vote for Obama, Osama, or Chelsea's Mama!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Liberal Fascism points this out: expert knowledge over democracy


13 posted on 03/04/2008 2:07:16 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“California’s top court “
“California’s top court “

Yep, now that’s funny! and ‘blows east’
‘blows east’.....wait, now that’s funnnier!


14 posted on 03/04/2008 2:18:21 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Morgana

not to worry...It can ‘blow East’ to Las Vegas....but then ‘What goes down here, stays here’ takes effect, so it can’t get past Vegas!


15 posted on 03/04/2008 2:22:09 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: CRBDeuce

Later the article talks about Oral arguments. The Jokes write themselves! You don’t have to hunt for a, “gag” line.


16 posted on 03/04/2008 2:23:01 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“California’s top court hears arguments on Tuesday about whether matrimony should be limited to a man and a woman.”

On Wednesday, California’s top court hears arguments on some related issues:

- Whether the alphabet should be limited to 26 letters

- Whether imaginary creatures should be limited to things that do not exist

- Whether eunuchs should be limited to men without testicles

- Whether the sun should be limited to rising in the East

- Whether members of California’s top court should be limited to either being idiots or to not being idiots


17 posted on 03/04/2008 2:30:10 PM PST by redfog
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hmmm... gay marriage.

There I pondered it. Don’t like it.


18 posted on 03/04/2008 2:37:25 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Anti-Bubba182
California's top court ponders gay marriage

I hope they won't be marrying each other - marrying your bretherin may be incest.

19 posted on 03/04/2008 2:39:26 PM PST by frithguild (I hope for change when I give cash to the Man - but all I ever get is nickels and dimes.)
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To: redfog
Whether the alphabet should be limited to 26 letters

The élan showed in arguing this über-issue revealed no thought for mañana.

20 posted on 03/04/2008 2:57:48 PM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: frithguild

marrying your bretherin may be incest.

Probably not in San Francisco!


21 posted on 03/04/2008 3:31:29 PM PST by Isabelle
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To: Anti-Bubba182; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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22 posted on 03/04/2008 3:40:53 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The oral arguments were later suspended pending a medical doctor's examination.

Any oral arguments infected by STDs could be found defective and inadmissable in court.

23 posted on 03/04/2008 3:45:50 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: CRBDeuce
If there is some sort of ERA wording in the California constitution or legal code, then the court might have a case for allowing gay marriage.

If men and women are completely equal before the law, then a man marrying a woman is legally no different than a man marrying a man, or a woman marrying a woman.

This is the legal tack that the Hawaii Supreme Court took.

This is one of the arguments that Phyllis Schlafly made against the ERA when she and others successfully blocked its ratification.

Of course she was called a lunatic at the time for suggesting that the ERA had anything to do with gay marriage.

24 posted on 03/04/2008 3:49:05 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Lancey Howard
It's already too late. Most people are now kinda sorta OK with civil unions. These are marriages in all but name.

Allowing civil unions, but denying gay marriage seems like a last desperate act in a losing battle.

We should be rolling back civil union legislation rather than fighting a rear guard action against gay marriage.

And yes, as far as "rear guard action" is concerned, the pun is intended.

25 posted on 03/04/2008 3:52:41 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: madprof98

Exactly. Marriage is defined by the individual states, and the citizens of California spoke LOUD and CLEAR several years ago when they voted for the definition of marriage in this state.

I hope Chief Ronald George will steer the rest of the Supremes to the right thing.


26 posted on 03/04/2008 3:58:56 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

nahhh........gay marriage is like assisted suicide....ie, it’s either gay or it’s marriage, likewise it’s either assisted or it’s suicide! assisted suicide = murder; gay marriage = suicide of civilization!


27 posted on 03/06/2008 5:22:45 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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